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No, you push lies and propaganda to support Russia. Your criticism only goes one way, never towards Russia. To that point, this whole dumb argument right now is over one small battalions actions while Russia has systematically engaged in far worse at all levels.

You keep repeating the same claims and adding guesses on top of them. That isn’t evidence. 1. “ALL wore Nazi insignias.” No. That’s simply not supported by reporting or photos of the unit over time. The Azov Battalion had a unit emblem used on uniforms. Individual fighters sometimes displayed extremist symbols. Those are not the same thing, no matter how many capital letters you use. 2. “They were all white supremacists.” Also unsupported. Azov eventually had thousands of members, including people from different regions of Ukraine and even foreign volunteers who were not part of any neo-Nazi movement. Saying “every single one” believed the same ideology is just you asserting it. 3. Your own source contradicts you. You keep citing the statement that 10–20% identified as Nazis. Math still works the same way online as it does offline. If 10–20% say they’re Nazis, that means 80–90% did not. 4. Guessing what people “secretly believed.” Claiming the rest were “probably Nazis in private” is speculation, not evidence. You can’t turn a guess into a fact by yelling it. 5. Symbols. The Wolfsangel symbol existed long before Nazi Germany and appears in European heraldry. Nazis used it, which is why it’s controversial today, but its existence in other contexts is a historical fact whether you like it or not. 6. War crimes claim. The United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights documented abuses during the Donbas war by multiple armed groups. Some allegations involved Azov fighters. That is very different from “the UN declared an entire battalion Nazi war criminals.” 7. Ukraine integrating the unit. Ukraine integrated many volunteer battalions into the National Guard in 2014 during an active invasion and internal conflict. Azov was one of several units brought under state command. The core issue You keep doing the same thing: • Some extremists were in the unit. • Therefore every member must be a Nazi. That leap just isn’t supported by the evidence. Repeating it louder doesn’t fix the logic. And honestly, inventing numbers about who was “secretly a Nazi” isn’t an argument. It’s fan fiction.

Yes, you ignore Russia and their war crimes while you sit here trying to pretend to be upset about this battalion. im not defending neo Nazis, this is your dumb game, the same crap a leftist would say. I’m pointing out the facts and even then, the whole point of this is still that you two are somehow trying to use this to say Russia was justified in invading Ukraine, which is dumb.

You’re repeating the same claim and treating it as proof. It isn’t. 1. “Ukraine took a Nazi battalion into the army.” False. The Azov Battalion was a volunteer militia formed in 2014 that included some far-right members. That is not the same thing as the unit being officially a Nazi organization. 2. Even Azov’s own spokesperson contradicts your claim. In 2015 Azov spokesman Andriy Diachenko said 10–20% of members identified as Nazis. That alone disproves your claim that the entire unit was Nazi. 3. “ALL of them wore Nazi symbols.” Also false. The unit’s emblem was a stylized Wolfsangel-like symbol used by the battalion. Individual fighters sometimes displayed extremist symbols, but it was not true that every member wore Nazi insignia. 4. The Wolfsangel argument doesn’t prove what you think it proves. The symbol existed centuries before Nazi Germany and appears in European heraldry. Nazis used it, but they did not invent it. 5. UN reports. The United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights documented abuses by multiple sides in the Donbas war. Some allegations involved Azov members. The UN did not declare Azov a Nazi unit or say every member committed war crimes. 6. What actually happened in 2014. Ukraine incorporated many volunteer battalions into the National Guard to put them under state control during the war. Azov was one of several units integrated this way. The mistake you keep making You take this fact: • Some early Azov members were extremists. And jump to this claim: • Therefore the entire battalion was Nazi. That conclusion simply doesn’t follow from the evidence. You too cheer on Russia and don’t say a word about their war crimes and the crap they do… but sit here crying about the Azov battalion?

No, not t would be like some dad telling every kid in Florida they will never go to Disney Land in California, not one inch past Disney World! Never! For all time! And then you 50 years later saying that every dad in the country is now a liar because they didn’t follow his promise. No one lied about anything as they never had the power to hold NATO for all eternity to any such “promise” because it was never a promise or deal that was formalized.

Still a coward. Thanks for confirming.

What does it matter? When I routinely countered your BS on here, you ran and hid from me like a coward.

This is not racism. 1. You only care about minorities. Racism is not racism just because it is a minority. 2. No law, policy, or practice perfectly balances on race, sex, or whatever other protected status. Claiming racism because of disproportion is an absurd leftist talking point. Now keep hiding from me like the coward you are.

This is your BS circular reasoning... you support the illegal immigration, so you support the illegal immigrants using our services... then argue they should get that because they are here. They are here because you support the lawlessness. That reality changes when you enforce the law.

What an awful dictator and fascist that you are still here bragging about your rights. LOL

What do you care? Your country just ships the coal to China and you get to pretend like you are saving the planet because you use Wind Turbines while they burn your coal for you.

Nope. 1. “The groups were National Socialists.” Some founding figures came from far-right organizations like the Social-National Assembly and Patriot of Ukraine. That’s documented. That still isn’t the same as saying the entire Azov unit officially declared itself a Nazi organization. 2. Size of extremist ideology inside Azov. In 2015 an Azov spokesperson told USA Today that about 10–20% of members identified as Nazis. Even if you take that estimate at face value, it means most members did not. 3. Symbols. Yes, the early emblem resembled a Wolfsangel and there were extremist symbols among some fighters. That’s widely reported. But that symbol existed long before Nazi Germany and appears in other historical contexts. That’s why reporting describes it as associated with neo-Nazis, not proof that the entire unit is Nazi. 4. Tattoos and individuals. Some fighters had Nazi tattoos. True. That still describes individual members, not the ideology of thousands of later recruits. 5. War-crime allegations. The United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights documented abuses in the Donbas war involving many armed groups. Some incidents involved Azov members. Those reports did not conclude that Azov as a whole systematically committed war crimes. 6. Integration into Ukraine’s forces. Ukraine incorporated multiple volunteer battalions in 2014 to bring them under state control during an active war. Azov was one of many units integrated that way. Bottom line: Early Azov had far-right members and controversial symbolism. That is already widely documented. What isn’t supported by the evidence is the claim that the entire unit, or Ukraine’s military as a whole, is Nazi. Repeating “some members were extremists” doesn’t change that distinction. Of course it will end, because you will run away like the coward you are and then come back a few months from now pushing this same BS and we will do this all over again.

The President of the US? Yeah, sure, they can speak all they want, none of them have unilateral authority to engage in any deals for their own countries, let alone all of NATO. You. Are. Full. Of. Shit. No, I very correctly point out that none of these things were formal agreements binding NATO to anything. They had a formal agreement after this, it was not a part of it. You are taking historical comments out of context, paraphrasing them, stringing them together, to try to make it into something it never was. The only person here with no integrity is you. They are not lies, these were all comments made BEFORE any formal agreement was made. If people are in negotiations and make offers and comments that are not part of the final agreed-upon deal, they are not liars, nor are they liars when they have no capacity to behold NATO to anything they said. If you or the Soviets or the Russians are too stupid to grasp this concept, that is on you and them.

And now you are going to be obtuse and ignore the point. I mean, this is what you do routinely on here. You make crappy comments and then run away from them.

It’s comical how you act like this while you are a coward hiding from me.

And they are still getting that money from the consumers…

I know you don’t care, but you keep pretending you do and I refute that. This is why you need to look at yourself instead of calling everyone else stupid.

Where do Corporations get their profits from? These costs are passed on to the consumers. Again, this is the same argument you are making about tariffs.

If the Illegal is not here, they wouldn’t be here to kill someone… This is basic common sense that you turn a blind eye to.

There is no such thing as a corporate tax, it’s just a product tax that consumers pay.

Yes, seriously. You can pretend it’s not happening, doesn’t change the facts that it is and folks on your side of the political spectrum support it. I mean, you can keep crying about half the country being stupid too… You are pushing ignorant leftist talking points that have been long debunked. There are more than NCAA athletes, that was also just a comment about known athletes made during a hearing, not a real or accurate count of all those engaged in the sport. Even then… it’s a ruse, as to what number is acceptable to you for some dude beating women in sports? The answer should be zero. The argument is not about “immigrants” in general, but ILLEGAL immigrants and even more the ones that get caught breaking the law even more and then folks like you let them go back on the streets rather than coordinate with ICE for deportation and then they go on to harm Americans more.

You just called it a comedy show. Now you not only think it’s funny, you just don’t give a crap that these illegal immigrants get a CDL and kill people.

What evidence do you have he did something wrong?

Ah I see, so now a majority of the voting age population is stupid. At some point, you need to do some internal soul searching that maybe when you are on the side of butchering children, letting dudes destroy women in their sports, and letting illegal immigrants overrun the border and rape and murder Americans, the issue is you.

You think it’s funny that illegal immigrants are getting CDL’s and are woefully not qualified and end up killing people on the roads? Projection.