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In most cases they'd be right ?. Again the vast majority of severe covid cases are already extremely I'll to begin with. 80% of covid deaths are long term care which 60% of those in long term care pass away within a year. I have yet to hear a valid reason why the average person who's healthy person should be mandated to vaccinate. Seems strange. Likely driven by profit of some sort I'd imagine. If you care to take a stab at answering that, go ahead. Seems most will dance around the point

At least with Jughead we know he's a terrorist sympathizer. Trudeau tends to mask that.

Trudeau is no dictator just the puppet on the string being propped up by a terrorist sympathizer in the ndp

I'm starting to think that's the intention of the Government at this point.

We should start calling this for what it is. Aggrevated assault. Trudeau is so spiteful of people for whom he disagrees with that he's willing to abuse his power to cause them harm. Very demented man

So force someone to do something against their will which will have statistically no impact on Covid. Makes sense.

Trudeau is taking thousands of trucks off the road over a vaccine. The policy will have marginal impact on hospitalizations but is having an impact on supply chain.

How many of those 16000 unvaccinated truckers are going to be hospitalized due to covid? My guess is it's closer to 0 than it is to 16000. What's the point of Trudeau holding the economy hostage?

I think so too. They can blame those dirty unvaccinated for covid spread by skewing statistics and cover for their incompetence.

My guess is the majority of the 25% are incidental cases but the government hasn't exactly been upfront when shaping the narrative.

Probably make an argument for vaccinating those most at risk (multiple comorbities) but is there really much benefit in vaccinating the healthy? The vast majority of people who end up in hospital have multiple comorbidies so yes you could say that vaccinating those who are already terminally ill may have a slight impact on covid hospitalizations (though they are likely already involved on multiple occasions with health care in a year regardless) At what expense? The vast majority who SHOULD be vaccinated have already done so voluntarily. What's the point of the pass or cross border mandates anymore? My point is that the true denominator in your analysis shouldn't be the total number vaccinated as the majority aren't going to be hospitalized anyway. Not a true analysis of the impact of the vaccine.

But there is a skew though in the statistics as the vast majority of vaccinated at this point likely wouldn't be hospitalized regardless. For example, a sizable 20-30 year old population is now vaccinated to go to university. I doubt much of that population is at significant risk of hospitalization. Pretty much that entire population may feel rough for a few days and get over it. Maybe you could argue that there's a benefit in some population demographics but that's my point. Why is there a need to coerce the entire population into getting a vaccine?

Actually I am being honest and sincere. I guess it depends on which experts you ask. There are some that have made the same arguments as me. I find the present health policy experts are more driven by politics rather than actual facts or scientific method. Also very likely some big money involved so it makes sense they shill for big pharma

How many of the vaccinated wouldn't have ended up in hospital without the vaccine or how many unvaccinated wouldn't have ended up in hospital without the vaxx? That's the true value of the vaccine. And to be honest you won't know that answer which makes the argument full of fallacy

Not only that but we have far more tools now where public policy should adapt to let people move on with their lives.

More kids die of the flu than of covid. This is a fact. Just because there are SOME young people who get sick (remember young people can have comorbidities too) does not mean that it's a significant threat to young people. Covid restrictions have certainly had impacts on childhood development. Speech and language, physical development through sports, etc.

75-80% of cases are vaccinated...

Young people end up in hospitals with the flu too... Pneumonia was around long before covid. You know what else the vaccine gives young people? Heart problems. I know one 20 year old who died 2 days after his first shot and a handful of others whove been hospitalized

The vaccines are likely causing the variants. Amazing how only vaccinated people were allowed to travel yet we keep having new foreign variants show up.. Logic blackbird, logic

But Omicron is far less severe than Delta or the original and very few children (less than most flu strains) end up in hospitals. So what's the point of stripping the ability to obtain services from people? You going to answer that question or hurl more insults?

Yes. Then never acknowledge you point. Just hurl insults and act like children like this blackbird fellow then ignore you.

Look at you. I've given you studies on who ends up in hospital with Covid. It's the people with 4 comorbities and the elderly regardless of vaccine status. Are you going to actually acknowledge that fact?

The manipulation of statistics by fools like this blackbird fellow are astonishing The guy has no ability for critical thinking lol. Even if it's more transmissable, who cares? A very small number of people actually end up in hospital vaccinated or unvaccinated so to impose mass vaccination programs on a population then implement discrimination based on faulty logic is ridiculous

It's also debatable if it actually stopped the spread with other variants. Plenty of breakthrough delta cases as well

You are on a political forum. People are going to disagree with you. Grow some thicker skin you coward. They are using the same faulty logic as you are. I'm well aware of it. If it reduces spread then why the hell do we have skyrocketing case numbers and a proportionate case levels between vaccinated and unvaccinated? You have not answered that question jysr result to ad hominemd because you are pathetic