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So when the government does it its fine because mob rule. When people stick up for themselves they are at fault. Do I have thar right?

That I'm not sure. I haven't really been following the drama much other than politicians being offended that they are getting a taste of their own medicine

Yes we are opposed to Trudeau wrecking the economy and putting people out of work

So it's not really a choice. Just a bunch of white guys trying to tell you what to do to your body in order to work. Only sick people are okay with that

Agree with you the issue is population growth and under funding, not because some 20 year old university student didn't take a jab

Who said that? Offer the vaccines to the most at risk and let everyone else decide on what they want to put in their own body. Pretty simple concept

1. I have actually problem is you folks shift the goal posts repeatedly. Use the big scary "hospitalization" numbers when you want to appeal to fear. When I point out some of the discrepancies in hospitalizations between vaxxed and unvaxxed is because of government policy, you go on the attack right away. Not sure how you have a discussion with folks like that. I'm not exactly sure what your point is about ICU admissions. The people who typically hit the ICU due to covid are those with significant preexisting conditions. I fail to see how this point is irrelevant. You folks go on and on about "the unvaccinated" clogging up beds. It shows how little you understand to be honest.

If you are considered positive for an additional 4 days while in hospital if you are unvaxxed, that is very relevant even if you don't understand it. Not really gobbledygook to examine what the statistics mean. Again the vast majority of those who end up in an icu bed have multiple comorbidities. Also relevant to whether or not you should fire a healthy person over a vaccine

OK but you are potentially still considered "covid positive" for an additional four days in the hospital. You don't think that's relevant? Seems to me it might account for that 16% difference in cases between vaxxed and unvaxxed

From your article: This is important "Of the patients in hospital, 53.5 per cent were admitted due to a COVID-19-related illness and 46.5 per cent tested positive after they were admitted for another reason." No? The discrepancies in hospitalizations are probably due to: 1. The time frame in which a unvaxxed vs a vaxxed has to isolate (10 days at that time for a vaxxed, 14 days for an unvaxxed) and 2. The screening criteria for hospitalizations (likely more stringent for an unvaccinated person due to faulty assumptions)

You also aren't recognizing the discriminatory testing that's been taking place to get a desired narrative.

But your explanations are flat outvfalse and you've already been shown that. The vaccinated are still filling roughly 80% of covid related hospital beds. And... not every unvaccinated person is equal. The vast majority will be able to ride it out at home for a week or so.. which you also fail to acknowledge

I took two shots second being in June. By November they told me to take a third. A booster every three months would suggest the vaccines are in fact NOT working. Then you have many tripple vaxxed coming down with Covid. MOre like the manufacturer trying to cover up the ineffectiveness of their product than anything.

In most cases they'd be right ?. Again the vast majority of severe covid cases are already extremely I'll to begin with. 80% of covid deaths are long term care which 60% of those in long term care pass away within a year. I have yet to hear a valid reason why the average person who's healthy person should be mandated to vaccinate. Seems strange. Likely driven by profit of some sort I'd imagine. If you care to take a stab at answering that, go ahead. Seems most will dance around the point

At least with Jughead we know he's a terrorist sympathizer. Trudeau tends to mask that.

Trudeau is no dictator just the puppet on the string being propped up by a terrorist sympathizer in the ndp

I'm starting to think that's the intention of the Government at this point.

We should start calling this for what it is. Aggrevated assault. Trudeau is so spiteful of people for whom he disagrees with that he's willing to abuse his power to cause them harm. Very demented man

So force someone to do something against their will which will have statistically no impact on Covid. Makes sense.

Trudeau is taking thousands of trucks off the road over a vaccine. The policy will have marginal impact on hospitalizations but is having an impact on supply chain.

How many of those 16000 unvaccinated truckers are going to be hospitalized due to covid? My guess is it's closer to 0 than it is to 16000. What's the point of Trudeau holding the economy hostage?

I think so too. They can blame those dirty unvaccinated for covid spread by skewing statistics and cover for their incompetence.

My guess is the majority of the 25% are incidental cases but the government hasn't exactly been upfront when shaping the narrative.

Probably make an argument for vaccinating those most at risk (multiple comorbities) but is there really much benefit in vaccinating the healthy? The vast majority of people who end up in hospital have multiple comorbidies so yes you could say that vaccinating those who are already terminally ill may have a slight impact on covid hospitalizations (though they are likely already involved on multiple occasions with health care in a year regardless) At what expense? The vast majority who SHOULD be vaccinated have already done so voluntarily. What's the point of the pass or cross border mandates anymore? My point is that the true denominator in your analysis shouldn't be the total number vaccinated as the majority aren't going to be hospitalized anyway. Not a true analysis of the impact of the vaccine.

But there is a skew though in the statistics as the vast majority of vaccinated at this point likely wouldn't be hospitalized regardless. For example, a sizable 20-30 year old population is now vaccinated to go to university. I doubt much of that population is at significant risk of hospitalization. Pretty much that entire population may feel rough for a few days and get over it. Maybe you could argue that there's a benefit in some population demographics but that's my point. Why is there a need to coerce the entire population into getting a vaccine?