Infidel Dog

I wasn't aware I did any of that so I'm thinking it's not me who's "assuming." Here's an assumption for you though. I'm assuming you don't actually know what race-baiting is. I'm assuming that because that was what I was talking about. Not assumptions of what the black race was feeling. Blacks in America are race-baited (look it up) into believing they're some special sort of victim. No statistic supports that. Many races could put their race's history up against blacks' for incidents of persecution. These race hysteria incidents cherry-picked out of the news are nothing special. There have been at least 10 white on black incidents more radical than the Floyd incident in the last month. They just didn't make it to the top of the news cycle. For example. Are you familiar with the Jayden Hayden assault case. If not you should ask yourself why not. There are aspects to it that would at one time make it what was called at one time "front page news." I imagine you've heard of Michigan governor, Gretchen Whitmer. Trump and I call her Gretchen Half-Whitmer. Her administration jumped on board with fellow Democrat Governor Cuomo of New York in thinking it would be a good idea to send Covid patients back from the Hospital to long term elderly care facilities but Gretchen's genius crew put a wrinkle on it. They weren't just sending elderly covid patients to old folks homes. People like 20 year old psycho Jayden Hayden were getting the ol' 'c'mon down' too. He beat the crap out of the 75 year old covid patient sharing a room with him and shared the video of his brave deed on social media. As you may know Gretchen Half-Whitmer is on the short list for being Joe Biden's running mate for the presidential election. So why isn't that story receiving George Floyd levels of attention? Where are the riots. There is all kinds of video showing Hayden to be a raging white-hating racist. And if you want an example of one of the white-hate cases that involves murder, here ya go: https://theredelephants.com/breaking-black-male-hunts-assassinates-elderly-white-couple-in-delaware-cemetery-with-scoped-rifle/ My point was black people are being race baited with false information. And it's working. I don't have to ask black people what they're feeling to know that. I just have to watch the news. "This poor black people being victimized by the evil whites" myth the race-baiters push is a boil on America's ass that needs to lanced.

I think if just the race-baiters would "cool it" that would stop the problem before it happened. Maybe we should start with education. Blacks are no more victims in current society than anybody else. Every race (including whites) gets some racism but Institutional racism doesn't exist.

I've heard some blacks who have escaped those (the ones the riots come out of) refer to them as "the Democrat plantations." CL Bryant goes into it in his documentary. I've heard Candace Owens use the phrase "Democrat Plantation" a lot too, but I'm told by somebody here at MLW I can't consider her black because she's not dark enough. Caramel then?

"Antifa, the extreme anarchist-communist movement, has rioting down to an art. The first broken window is the blood in the water for looters to move in. When the looting is done, those carrying flammable chemicals start fires to finish the job. Footage recorded in Minneapolis and other cities show militants dressed in black bloc— the antifa uniform — wielding weapons like hammers or sticks to smash windows. You see their graffiti daubed on smashed up buildings: FTP means ‘Fuck the Police’; ACAB stands for ‘All Cops Are Bastards’; 1312 is the numerical code for ACAB." Once we get the above information straight I don't really care how you want to excuse them. If they don't have an organizational headquarters it just makes them a little harder to root out of their rat-holes is all. BTW that quote is from an article that's worth a read: https://spectator.us/andy-ngo-antifa-american-insurgency/

I wonder if the far-left money people of which Soros is the easiest to identify bussed the agitators in the way they did in Charlottesville.

Looking at the more complete video something pops up. When this case gets to court the jury will see all the video. So these people and organizations from BLM to Antifa to looky-loo come-alongs, to Big Mama from the hood looking to loot some new underwear and a wide-screen TV are going to be gifted a new excuse to 'tear down the house' when the verdict comes out. It's doubtful what the jury sees will justify the punishment those who are basing their decisions on the tiny edit of video the media has been letting the average person see will be demanding. The media may call them out into the streets again so they'll have more chaos to film. Talk about your 'second wave.'

Interesting question, because of what it implies. We're taking on faith that we know everything about what happened to Floyd based on a massively edited video. And there's a background insinuation that therefore we know everything about all black on white confrontations in an arrest and it's all victim and victimizer. But if you put that in plain language do we really know that? The YouTuber Atheism is Unstoppable makes some interesting points. Now that all the video is starting to trickle out and we start to see a more complete picture you can still want the cop who overdealt his hand and is responsible for Floyd's death to be held to account but it becomes a little more morally ambiguous than the story in the hysterical way the media has been feeding it to you with the sliced video. Nobody would be rioting if we could have seen it all:

The chemistry of the riots appeared to be morphing. On saturday it looked to be largely white marxist groups coming in from outside the city and other cities to destroy black neighborhoods. Or at least they appeared to be who was instigating the most carnage. It was like. "Hey we're your friends. Fuck the Po Lees. We're gonna burn this place where you get your groceries." Not sure when that started but that's what it looked like from the sampling of videos I watched on Saturday night.

And these guys say it with a smile. Sometimes when you can't do anything about it you just gotta laugh.

Thanks for the link but you forgot to post his bit from the WaPo article: but yes, I did also read this that followed from the Wapo opinionator masquerading as a journalist:

So you'd like to divert off track for awhile, would you? I'll go off on your detour with you for a bit if you like. First of all I am Canadian. It's in my profile. But I kind of agree with you on one aspect of our political structure. Real political Conservatives are rare and getting rarer in our Country. We do have something we call Progressive Conservatives. More and more they're more about the P than the C. And I think that's what you're saying. Democrats are not more right wing than even the Progressive Conservatives of Canada though. You could Cherry pick examples that might seem reasonable to you as support but I could bring up examples like AOC or Ilhan Omar to mock you back with. Nobody in the Progressive Conservative party is pushing anything like what the Dems call their "Green New Deal": which is a watermelon policy, green on the outside Red on the inside. However I would agree with you if you wanted to say that in general the Overton window has shifted to the left over the years. It's fluid though. We don't have a right wing populist leader in Canada yet with the necessary spark like they do in other countries. Things could change even up here. There are what they call RINOs (Republicans in Name Only) in the American Republican party and they're a lot like what we call Progressive conservatives up here. I'd agree with you if you wanted to say the Democrat elite of America are pretty corporatist. And that's embedded.

Well thanks for finally being specific. Now show me what you're talking about. You say there are Americans in the WHO who support the Chinese side over the American one. I'm interested. Show me what you're talking about. Give me a link to what you're claiming so we can talk specifics some more. Are they just being diplomatic like Trump has been on occasion or have they bought into Chinese propaganda, or are they just shifty as some in the media and the opposition are. Do they find it politically or personally expedient to lie? I don't think they are supporting China's lies out of honor but if you have some evidence they are, show me.

But these race-baited riots only seem to be happening in hubs controlled by what I'll call Progressive Socialist (or if you would prefer leftist) regimes. Coincidence, I guess.

I'm having problems with the Prog logic here. Americans were working somewhere in the WHO so the WHO couldn't be favoring China, is that the point? There are Chinese friendly American lobbyists, Democrats and media people up and down the scale pushing Chinese propaganda. How does that make the lies true? And WHO didn't just fall in line with Chinese lies because they were duped like everybody else was. They pushed the lie that the ChiComm virus wasn't spreading human to human without doing any investigation. They danced and cheered about what a wonderful job the ChiComms were doing when there was no evidence for it because The ChiComms wouldn't let investigators in or share pertinent information. Even reporters were evicted while the public faces at The Who were giving the ChiComms tongue baths in the media.

Well, if you know something the rest of world doesn't, I'm willing to listen. How so?

If somebody's already posted this one, sorry about that, but it's worth knowing: Trump announces US ‘terminating’ relationship with WHO https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-us-terminating-relationship-with-who

When they start burning down police precincts you know the police have lost control of their city: And when they're threatening to come out to the suburbs because there's no city left you'd have to consider something beyond police.

Well, now you've got me confused. Are you backpedaling on this previous comment? "In light of how badly the US has handled it's outbreak." I wouldn't blame you if you were because there's no real truth to it, but can you explain to me why some people keep making it?

I keep hearing some people say that but I'm never sure what they mean by it. It's like were supposed to take it on faith or if they keep saying it it's going to become true. Can you be more specific. The American response compares favourably to most western countries as far as I can tell.

The problem with the blacks as victims/whites as victimizers narrative is it's a lie. I've heard it called "the big lie." Did you want to debate stats? I'll start with these two because the first one brings up the subject of media statistical distortion. https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/09/police-shootings-black-white-media-narrative-population-difference/ https://www.dailywire.com/news/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler If you want to go "Aha, gotcha" to me, while showing me something from the LA Times or Washington Post, we'll be discussing statistical massaging to get the numbers to fit the message.

Clean up in aisle 3. ^^^ Did you scroll past this one in your image search?

I'm with Tucker the only way to stop things like the Minneapolis riots is to put the blame loudly, relentlessly where it actually deserves to be. On the media first. Race-baiting for headlines and talking points is the starting point of the problem.

These 2 stories only share the similarity in that they were race-baited but it's probably a mistake to conflate the two. In one the guy died. In the other somebody only got fired and lost her dog. And in the latter case it wasn't the supposed victim who was victimized. On the birdwatcher story, Amy Cooper was the dogwalker. Christian Cooper was the supposed "bird watcher" and his sister Melody was the one who gave Christian a big assist in making the story go viral. So knowing all that I'm going to say I no more think Christian Cooper is just a "bird watcher" than I think Trayvon Martin was just a fresh faced kid out for iced tea and skittles, or Michael Brown was a gentle giant with his hands up pleading "Don't shoot.," or Ahmed Arbery was just "a jogger." And I think if there's somebody in this story who deserves the label of a "Karen" it's more Christian than Amy. Here's the bit they don't show you in the video: Christian totally provoked that situation like a total "Karen." And understand that's Christian telling the story so he's massaging the details a bit thinking he's going to get sympathy. And Progressives like the Cooper siblings shouldn't even be allowed to 'project' the term "Karen" on anybody else. It's always projection. And I know the Coopers are activist progressives because they've both worked for Marvel comics. Marvel Comics was destroyed by woke politics. In fact, the insanity of its post-Stan Lee era of woke identity politics may have destroyed the comics industry.

And why is it if a race-baited riot is going to happen this evil, trouble-making Bozo turns up:

Agreed and here's somebody else who agrees that media race-baiting turns these situations like what happened in Minneapolis into larger problems.