SNOWFLAKE

How original.

You mean you can't click on the links??

Nice try cupcake. I am literally sitting here laughing my head off at how easy it is to trigger braindead Trumpers. Want more proof? I will now bow out of this conversation so you can have the last word. Guess what will happen? Even telling you you can have the last word and challenging you to NOT take it, you will, and you know why? Losers like you can't sleep at night until they get the last word in. So here is my promise, you can say whatever you want about me, I won't rebut you, so you can walk away from this conversation feeling "like a man." Cheers.

OMG, you and your tiny group of cirle-jerkers being triggered by one little Cdn Snowflake, and I bet I will get retorts from you even after I have left the conversation. TRUMP BROKE THE LAW AND GOT CAUGHT. Grow up and deal with, sheesh.

WHAT ABOUT HILLARY? WHAT ABOUT HUNTER? LOL, you Righties can't just accept that Trump has been caught with his hands in the cookie jar. Sorry "kid", but at this point the rest of us are laughing at your sorry lot who can't grow up and deal with criticism. https://www.joe.ie/uncategorized/right-wingers-more-stupid-and-racist-than-liberals-finds-report-31975

THAT is the best you can come up with? Damn, I was right, you are f*cking stupid.

For the third time, how many more years will Hillary be an excuse for any wrongdoing by Trump or some Rightwing loonytune? Can't answer? I know the answer already. She will be dead and gone and whiners and moaners will still be going "Why didn't they get Hillary?" I though Righties were supposed to be tough, able to take a hit, but instead they curl up like little babies and whine "but ......................."

It's actually quite easy when dealing with Trumpers. I mean seriously, what other nation (outside of Russia) would have a populace willing to vote for such a loser? Then storm the Capitol when they believe the election was stolen. Sorry bud, the Right is monumentally stupid and every exchange with one of your lot confirms that. https://www.joe.ie/uncategorized/right-wingers-more-stupid-and-racist-than-liberals-finds-report-31975 F*ck, are you stupid. THIS thread is about Trump.

I quoted a couple of sites that explains whataboutism because it is so hard to explain that concept to people who have to find SOMETHING, ANYTHING, to excuse Trump's behavior. AGAIN, if something happens to a Rightie ten years down the road, we will still hear about Hillary? Damn, the lack of imagination on the Right is staggering.

I wouldn't go there, my intellectual acuity is so far above yours, you don't even register on the bottom of my sole. If your lot want to act like complete fools by constantly bringing up a whataboutism because some bad news has been released by your God and Idol, that is on you. I would be too damned ashamed. But as we already know, the jackasses that make up the Right have no shame.

Except in these cases where it is used to defend wrongdoing by Trump by saying.... So, the year is 2025 or 2027 and some Republican is charged with something, the mindless minions who make up the Right will still be going.......... BUT HILLARY!!

Whataboutism gives a clue to its meaning in its name. It is not merely the changing of a subject to deflect away from an earlier subject as a political strategy; it’s essentially a reversal of accusation, arguing that an opponent is guilty of an offense just as egregious or worse than what the original party was accused of doing, however unconnected the offenses may be. The tactic behind whataboutism has been around for a long time. Rhetoricians generally consider it to be a form of tu quoque, which means "you too" in Latin and involves charging your accuser with whatever it is you've just been accused of rather than refuting the truth of the accusation made against you. Tu quoque is considered to be a logical fallacy, because whether or not the original accuser is likewise guilty of an offense has no bearing on the truth value of the original accusation. https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/whataboutism-origin-meaning Whataboutism is an argumentative tactic where a person or group responds to an accusation or difficult question by deflection. Instead of addressing the point made, they counter it with “but what about X?”. https://flaglerlive.com/176623/whataboutism-explained/ Whataboutism gives a clue to its meaning in its name. It is not merely the changing of a subject to deflect away from an earlier subject as a political strategy; it’s essentially a reversal of accusation, arguing that an opponent is guilty of an offense just as egregious or worse than what the original party was accused of doing, however unconnected the offenses may be. The tactic behind whataboutism has been around for a long time. Rhetoricians generally consider it to be a form of tu quoque, which means "you too" in Latin and involves charging your accuser with whatever it is you've just been accused of rather than refuting the truth of the accusation made against you. Tu quoque is considered to be a logical fallacy, because whether or not the original accuser is likewise guilty of an offense has no bearing on the truth value of the original accusation. https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/whataboutism-origin-meaning Whataboutism is an argumentative tactic where a person or group responds to an accusation or difficult question by deflection. Instead of addressing the point made, they counter it with “but what about X?”. https://flaglerlive.com/176623/whataboutism-explained/

Hard to do when there are SO FEW like yourself here willing to debate issues rather than whining about how any discussion of race or history is an attack on white people. Ironic too, as I am white myself. And they call me a "snowflake", sheesh.

It has become apparent that this has become a dumping ground for the most racist individuals imaginable. I have NO ISSUE discussing difference of opinion, but one only has to read the exchanges I've had in my time on here with certain individuals that the racism just oozes out of them. If this is all this place has to offer, I will gladly bow out, so that those I have been arguing with can ridicule me to their leisure.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/canada-residential-schools-unmarked-graves-indigenous-children-60-minutes-2023-02-12/ https://www.indigenouswatchdog.org/2022/06/20/the-national-post-dishonours-the-thousands-of-missing-children-in-unmarked-graves-with-their-biased-and-distorted-views/ Please don't bother to respond, I find racists to among the vilest people on the planet. And if you do respond, show your hand, and make more excuses for what happened to the indigenous.

So the abuse at residential schools can be dismissed? Don't bother responding, or if you do, know I won't respond in kind, you disgust me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_gravesites#:~:text=Some were officially associated with,unmarked graves to be 3%2C200. Would you tell a Jew to forget that the Holocaust happened as well? I see by your claiming that the deaths were mostly due to communicable diseases that you are looking for some excuse to explain your views. You don't have the intellectual chops to ask yourself why those diseases hit residential schools particularly hard: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/at-least-3-000-died-in-residential-schools-research-shows-1.1310894 Still doesn't excuse the mass graves. We can go around the bush as many times as you want, these arguments are nothing new to me. I am of German descent and I acknowledge what we did to the Jews and strive to make sure it never happens again. No excuses. Shame you don't have enough humanity in you to admit your history. Oh, for crying OUT LOUD. Grow up!!

Link? Nope. I have a life to live, I am not interested in looking under my bed constantly. Yeah ok. ?

Have you forgotten residential schools?

I came across this completely by accident, it's not exactly being promoted or advertised. When I do a web search for "political debate forums" this one is certainly not near the top of sites being displayed. It is what it is, how long someone like myself will hang in there is another question. Depends how many people I have to spank for having the wrong views. ?

Shit happens. Then we vote for a different party, and the shit gets worse. Sometimes you just have to do the best you can with what you have.

JAYSUS, just when I thought we could have a debate you bring out all the Rightwing talking points that I have heard over and over again on Fox and other Rightwing media outlets. You weren't interested in a discussion about affirmative action after all, just needed an opportunity to bleat about "radical left wing activists." I swear, when I read tripe like yours, I ask myself, can these people NOT see themselves when they speak this way? Are they permanently angry? Freaked out? Incapable of dealing with life? Go love someone, hug a child, volunteer somewhere, smoke a joint, DO SOMETHING with your life other than whining about what you perceive is being taken away from you. GAWD!!!

THAT is the result of too much immigration??? Say what?

the optimum word there is "handful." Don't get me wrong, I am not being critical, just curious as to why this site isn't being promoted more to bring in a wider range of debaters.

As I stated earlier, there is a discussion to be had that affirmative action is no longer necessary. BUT....... let's be honest........... we don't know what will happen when it is done away with. So best argument I can give is; ok do away with it and see the results. If the results show that we are going back to excluding minorities in universities and jobs, bring it back, if it doesn't, then don't bring it back. ANOTHER BUT.......... we can't go on pretending racism no longer exists. You have your experiences, I have mine. I have never been discriminated against. But I am not about to say "too bad they can't hire normal people" when served by an immigrant.