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No, I think I asked him about salvation. He said he didn't know. Wow! So what is the Bible all about then? A central teaching in the Bible is the way of salvation, that is, how to get to heaven and have eternal life. How can you say a thing like that? Have you read heard the gospel message? Do you not realize what you are saying is totally contrary to the central teaching of Christianity and the Bible? Probably the most well known verse in the Bible is John 3:16 KJV "16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." That is a core message of the Bible. It is all about the way of salvation.

I can see you are not paying attention to anything I post. Are you saved? Do you have eternal life now? How do you know?

How would you phrase it? I rejected his claims because he is completely wrong. He claims the way of salvation is works.

You didn't quote what I said about that so I am not sure what you are referring to. It appears you never read what I posted. I guess you just read one or two lines and jump in with a reply. "I. The Covenant of God The direct, unqualified promises of security (John 5:24; 6:37; 10:28) form an unconditional covenant in which God simply declares what He is going to do, which is also an expression of His unchangeable will. In Romans 8:29, 30 this eternal purpose is revealed and its realization is assured through sovereign grace and apart from every human work and merit. II. The Power of God As being absolutely free from every limitation the Scriptures assert that God is able to keep all who are saved through Christ (John 10:29; Romans 4:21; 8:31, 38, 39; 14:4; Ephesians 3:20; Philippians 3:21; 2 Timothy 1:12; Hebrews 7:25; Jude 1:24)." -from Major Bible Themes ch.33 Security of Salvation

Not correct. I am not sure what words you are talking about. I was simply pointing out that salvation is totally separate from works. The historic Protestant belief since the Reformation is that salvation is by faith alone and I explained that in previous posts and explained the verses. When one starts talking about works being a part of it in any way, then it is no longer salvation by faith alone. I never said works were not important. But they are subsequent to one becoming a child of God and have nothing to do with being saved. All that is explained in the book Major Bible Themes I quoted above. I never said becoming a Christian invalidate the need to do works, but the works do not save anyone. Works are important of course, but the works are done because one is a believer or Christian, not for the purpose of becoming one and not for the purpose of earning salvation in any way I never rejected the importance of works, but they have nothing to do with salvation.

That is not correct. What you are saying would destroy a believer's peace. It would put the fear of eternal perdition in any believer. That is not the kind of God believers have and is not what the Bible teaches. I am not sure what you have studied or what you based your claim on. There are a number of good sources of Bible doctrine. It is overly simplistic to just quote one or two verses. There is really a lot to it. This book, Major Bible Themes, was written by Lewis Sperry Chafer, who lived in the early half of the 20th century and was a co-founder of Dallas Theological Seminary. He had eminent qualification as a professor of systematic theology. He presents in his book the dispensational view. Other views such as the Reformed, Presbyterian, or Calvinist theology also support the eternal security of believers. Check out the Westminster Confessions of Faith, larger catechism. The book Major Bible Themes by Lewis Sperry Chafer has a very good chapter on Security. I will quote a part of it but you will have to go to their website to read the rest of the chapter to get a complete picture. "Chapter 33 - Security This Chapter is concerned with the Biblical answer to the question, "Could a person once saved ever be lost again?" Since fear of eternal perdition must destroy the believer's peace, and since to suppose that one once saved might be lost again, of necessity, limits the saving grace of God as it is in Christ, the subject of this Chapter is of utmost importance. The claim that one who is once saved might be lost again is usually based on a form of rationalism which, emphasizing certain passages of Scripture, does not consider sufficiently the testimony of all the Word of God. Concerning this question, church creeds have taken opposing sides; but it will be observed that belief or disbelief in the security of all who are saved is more personal than creedal. While the great body of New Testament Scriptures which bear directly or indirectly on this question declare the believer to be secure, there are upwards of twenty-five passages which have been cited in evidence by those who maintain that the believer is insecure. It is certain that an individual could not be at the same time both secure and insecure. Therefore, of these two bodies of Scripture, one body of Scripture must of necessity conform to the other. From careful study it will be seen that the so-called "insecurity passages" are not such in reality, that they do not oppose the positive doctrine of security, and that they seem to teach insecurity only when they are misunderstood or misapplied. Certain, of these do not apply to the Christian since they belong to another dispensation (Matthew 24:13; Ezekiel 33:7, 8; Matthew 18:23-35; 25:30). Other passages refer only to false and unregenerate teachers of the "last days" (1 Timothy 4:1, 2; 2 Peter 2:1-22; Jude 1:17-19). One passage describes that which is merely a moral reformation (Luke 11:24-26). Several of these Scriptures bear on the important fact that Christian profession is justified by its fruits. Salvation which is of God will, under normal conditions, prove itself to be such by its own fruits (1 John 3:10; John 8:31; 15:6; 2 Peter 1:10; James 2:14-26; 1 Corinthians 15:1, 2; Hebrews 3:6, 14). In addition to this, there are certain passages that contain warnings which, when rightly interpreted, do not imply the insecurity of the believer under grace. Jews are warned that since their sacrifices have ceased they must turn to Christ or be lost (Hebrews 10:26), in like manner, unsaved Jews as well as Gentiles are warned against "falling away" from the illuminating, converting work of the Spirit (Hebrews 6:4-9). So, also, unspiritual Jews are warned that they will not be received into the coming kingdom (Matthew 25:1-13), and Gentiles are given a corporate warning which has no reference to the individual believer (Romans 11:21). Again, the one who is saved and safe may lose his reward (1 Corinthians 3:15; Colossians 1:21-23), and be disapproved concerning his service for Christ (1 Corinthians 9:27). Likewise, he may lose his fellowship because of sin (1 John 1:6), and he may be chastened of God (1 Corinthians 11:29-32; John 15:2; 1 John 5:16). And, finally, it is possible for the believer to "fall from grace" (Galatians 5:1-4), which, however, is never accomplished by sinning; for the Christian falls from grace only when he turns from his true liberty under grace to the bondage of the law. The positive doctrine of security rests upon an extended body of truth in which no less than twelve unchangeable facts of divine grace and its accomplishments are declared; any one of which alone would suffice to form an adequate basis for perfect rest and peace." For the rest of the chapter (33) go to: Themes.pdf

I don't see any evidence of that. Can you produce some reliable evidence? " Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has vowed to eliminate another component of the consumer carbon tax, the Clean Fuel Regulations, which still affects provinces that have an independent carbon pricing system, if his party wins the next election. In an interview on Tuesday with CBC Radio-Canada’s Patrice Roy, Poilievre confirmed that his plans extend beyond his long-standing promise to abolish the federal carbon levy for consumers. He also plans to abolish the Clean Fuel Regulations, the second component of the consumer federal carbon tax that applies to all provinces, which Poilievre said will add 17 cents a litre to the cost of fuel by 2030." Poilievre promises to end both parts of the consumer carbon tax if elected | True North The Conservative Party's policy is to reduce taxes on Canadians. They are opposed to carbon taxes of any kind. They want to make life more affordable for all Canadians.

Carbon tax Carney has said he will put carbon taxes on industry rather than directly on the people. That means he would disguise the carbon taxes but they will still be imposed because the price of everything will go up. Everyone will still pay carbon taxes but through the goods and services they receive. He has not promised to build a trans Canada, Energy East pipeline. He is still a Trudeau Liberal. A liberal is a liberal.

Your wording is difficult to understand. If one refuses to do works, that is another matter. It might raise a question as to whether he has been born again. But what the Apostle is talking about in these following verses is not speaking about good works as being a part of salvation. Salvation comes first and good works follow. That is what is clear from what Paul is saying. They are two separate subjects according to what Paul says. I was talking about what the inspired KJV Bible says about salvation. The Bible makes it clear that salvation is entirely by God's grace through faith in Jesus Christ and his finished work on the cross. Examine Ephesians ch2 vs 8, 9 KJV "8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2: 8, 9 KJV You see clearly how one is saved. Verse 8 clearly says one is saved by grace through faith. Then verse 9 says not of works, lest any man should boast. So in this verse the Apostle Paul makes it clear salvation is not of works. One must become a child of God or servant of God by receiving the new nature. It says that is a gift of God. Break these two verses down into their component parts to get a clear understanding of what God is saying here. It is vital to understand. A person receives the gift of salvation in a moment of time. The person receives the gift from God. He cannot earn it. Once he receives this gift, he has a new nature. Then as a new creature in Christ, he can do good works for God. That is what these two verses are saying. The Apostle is saying "not of works". In other words, he person cannot earn this gift by doing good works. Now look at another verse in Titus. "5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;" Titus 3:5 KJV Again the Apostle Paul makes it clear in the first part of this verse, we are not saved by "works of righteousness". But we are saved "according to his mercy,, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost". The Oxford Pocket Dictionary defines the word grace as meaning a favour or concession not claimable as a right. Nobody can claim to receive salvation by their good works or deeds then. If it were by doing good works, it would not be by God's grace (or favour). This proves salvation is not a lifelong process of doing certain good works. If it were by works, then it could not be by God's grace. Works and grace are not the same thing at all. Salvation happens at a point in time. The Apostle Paul makes it clear also in Romans ch3, 4, and 5. Read chapter 3 in Romans. Verses 9 to 20 speak about the fact "there is none righteous, no, not one". It concludes in verse 20 saying "20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin." Romans 3:20 KJV Then verses 21 to 31 explain again how one receives the righteousness of God without the deeds of the law (good works). See verse 28. This is talking about how one receives salvation by faith in Jesus Christ and his sacrifice. Chapter 4 gives the example of how Abraham was saved by faith and not by works.

Here's a thought. The continual wars and conflicts in the middle east has a lot to do with Islam and their opposition to those they consider as infidels. Israel/Jews are of course considered as infidels and the fact Israel's capital Jerusalem is also the location of what Muslims consider a major centre of their religion, although Jerusalem as Israel's capital goes back several thousand years. Islam only began in the 7th century A.D. Therefore the militant Islamists like Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood and other terrorist groups will always want the destruction of Israel. But they also consider the west, especially the U.S., as infidels and enemies of Islam. The west has been historically Judeo-Christian while the middle east is mainly Islamic. Therefore we should understand that Israel being geographically in the centre of the Muslim world, is a kind of bulwark between Islam and the western nations. As a consequence their attention is focused heavily against Israel. If Israel did not exist, they would turn much more attention to the west. So in that sense Israel is on the frontline defending the west. We should keep that in mind and be more appreciative of their defence of their security and freedom as a democratic country. They are the only democratic country in the middle east and their people live much like westerners. Our security is closely related to what is going on in the middle east.

There is also another related subject and that is the large number of immigrants that have been brought in from the Muslim world. I don't know how many people know this, but this religion of peace has proven to be not so peaceful in much of the world. European countries experience weekly terrorist attacks. The continual wars and conflicts in the middle east has a lot to do with Islam and their opposition to those they consider as infidels. Israel is of course considered as infidels and the fact Israel's capital Jerusalem is also the location of what Muslims consider a major centre of their religion. Therefore the militant Islamists like Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood and other terrorist groups will always want the destruction of Israel. But they also consider the west, especially the U.S., as infidels and enemies of Islam. Therefore we should understand that Israel being geographically in the centre of the Muslim world, is a kind of bulwark between Islam and the western nations. As a consequence their attention is focused heavily against Israel. If Israel did not exist, they would turn much more attention to the west. So in that sense Israel is on the frontline defending the west. We should keep that in mind and be more appreciative of their defence of their security and freedom as a democratic country. Our security is closely related to what is going on in the middle east.

Read what I said to Gaiten. Do you read and study the Bible? Do you believe the Bible is God's inspired word? The only pure inspired Bible in English is the King James Version or Authorized Version, not the NKJV which is corrupt. You may be able to find similar wording in verses I quoted in other English versions but I would not recommend them. They are not trustworthy. The Apostle Paul's epistles to the Romans, Galatians, and Ephesians refute what you said. " 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. " Ephesians 2:8, 9 KJV

Nobody can observe his commands perfectly. You are confusing faith with doing good works. I quoted verses to you to show you that we are not justified by works, (Eph. 2:8, 9) but you ignored it. You are ignoring what the Bible says in countless places or misinterpreting it. One must be born again. One becomes a child of God by faith in Jesus Christ and his sacrifice for his sins. It is obvious you do not understand the gospel or what the Bible teaches about salvation or justification. You are in a very dangerous position. You need to start paying attention to what the Bible says. You are cherry picking one or two verses and claiming that is what salvation means but that contradicts over a hundred other verses. You have to interpret the Bible in the light of what many other verses are saying. They say salvation is by faith. The Apostle Paul teaches in Romans, Ephesians, Galatians that faith and works are two different things. Faith is believing. Works are doing something. Therefore it is wrong to say faith is works. One must become a child of God by the new birth before he can do good works for God. You must become a child of God by being born again. The Apostle Paul says in different places that salvation is not by works. Read chapters 3, 4, and 5 of Romans which the Apostle Paul wrote under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. You also talk as if the only God-inspired part of the Bible is what it records as Jesus' direct words in the gospels. That is your first mistake. Do you understand Jesus is the Son of God? Some Bibles print Jesus' words He spoke while on earth in red. That doesn't mean the rest of the Bible is any less inspired by God. Jesus inspired men to write the whole Bible. The whole Bible is inspired by God. The Bible says in came from God in many places and ways. The Apostle Paul wrote his Epistles under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. It even says "16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works." 2 Timothy 3:16 KJV Are you willing to accept that the Bible is written by men inspired by God?

The fact is Canada, under Liberals/NDP, is a very soft-on-crime country. I am just watching a case on the news. A store owner who is targeted regularly by shop lifters was told by police the crimes in her store are not a priority because the thefts are under $5,000. These kind of stories are on the news practically every day. We can only hope the next government, if it is Conservative, will do something about this. Some business owners are giving up their businesses because it is getting just too expensive and businesses are losing more than they make. The business owner in this business posted some videos taken of the criminals in her store and was told she could be in trouble. Apparently nobody has a right to post pictures or videos of criminals robbing a store in Canada. The store owner is ignoring this and challenging it. Good for her. Criminals have more rights than victims in Canada.

Ya, we're all just colonials and have no rights at all as Liberals / Trudeau / NDP have told us. We should all leave Turtle Island and go back to where our ancestors came from. After all Canada is just a post national country now and all non-natives are guilty of genocide.

"A B.C. judge says police breached the charter rights of three people arrested for blocking work on the Coastal GasLink (CGL) pipeline, and they will receive a reduction in their sentences because of that." The police were reprimanded by the judge for comments the police made about red paint on the faces of these people and the judge said he will consider giving them a shorter sentence. But the judge also said their rights were violated when two of them hid in a couple of shacks on the site and the police had no warrant to enter the shacks . This sounds bizarre. If the RCMP had an injunction to clear protesters out of the area because they were blocking the construction of the Coastal Gaslink pipeline project, why would they need a warrant to enter some shacks where these people were located? This doesn't make sense. This just proves again how faulty our justice system is. These people were in the location illegally and needed to be removed. It is ridiculous to claim the police needed a warrant on top of an injunction to enter a shack to arrest them. They were there illegally. Judge finds RCMP breached charter rights during arrests at Wet'suwet'en pipeline blockade

Guess you didn't watch his message on flag day. He said many things of what he plans to do and spoke for over an hour. Google it on youtube. There will be major changes in almost every area.

I am far from perfect but Jesus Christ saved me by his grace 45 years ago one night. No Christian is perfect; only Jesus Christ is perfect. But when you become a child of God by grace through faith your sins are forgiven forever and you receive eternal life. You were wise to admit you don't know if you are saved. But you can know. There is a way. That way is to trust in Jesus Christ. You must admit you are wrong, renounce the false teaching that you can work or earn your way to heaven. Then accept Jesus Christ as your only Lord and Savior. "5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;" Titus 3:5 KJV You see that? Only the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost will save you. You must be born again. " 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. " John 3:16 KJV

The heading doesn't make much sense but the opinion piece makes less sense. It looks like you have been conned by the Liberal propaganda. The Conservatives have an excellent platform which was laid out by the leader on Flag Day with over an hour of details. You can find it on youtube at: Bing Videos Also read the Conservative Party of Canada policy document which is online at: 990863517f7a575.pdf After nearly ten years of Liberals wrecking Canada, are you seriously thinking of still supporting the Liberals or NDP? All they did is increase the size of the civil service by a huge number, spend money like lunatics for everything under the sun, throw billions of dollars around the world, attack the energy industry, ban pipelines, hammer everyone with carbon taxes pushing the price up of everything, catch and release dangerous offenders right away, very soft on crime, allow illegal migrants to flood across the border, allow the drug crisis to run wild with 50,000 deaths, allow drug and crime cartels to expand in Canada, and bring in far more immigrants than Canada can afford creating a housing crisis and other problems. Everything is worse in Canada after ten years of Liberals/NDP.

If you would like to be saved right now, be forgiven completely for all of your sins, and have eternal life right now, you can. You can have assurance that you are saved and have eternal life. I can tell you how to do it. Are you willing Gaetan?

That is bizarre. We know from reading articles that aboriginals first of all worshiped false gods usually related to nature. They also practiced Shamanism, and some still practice cleansing with smoke. I forgot what it is called. All of this is contrary to the Bible. But of course you would have to believe in the God of the Bible and what the Bible says to understand the problem. This article says: "Of all the North American Indian tribes, the seventeenth-century Iroquois are the most renowned for their cruelty towards other human beings. Scholars know that they ruthlessly tortured war prisoners and that they were cannibals; in the Algonquin tongue the word Mohawk actually means "flesh-eater." There is even a story that the Indians in neighboring Iroquois territory would flee their homes upon sight of just a small band of Mohawks. Ironically, the Iroquois were not alone in these practices. There is ample evidence that most, if not all, of the Indians of northeastern America engaged in cannibalism and torture—there is documentation of the Huron, Neutral, and Algonquin tribes each exhibiting the same behavior. This paper will examine these atrocities, search through several possible explanations, and ultimately reveal that the practices of cannibalism and torture in the Iroquois were actually related." War, Cannabalism, Torture - Native Americans Weren't The Nature Loving Doves Humanities Academics Claim | Science 2.0 I know of one island on a lake where reportedly when the men were away, an enemy tribe came and slaughtered all the women and children which were left alone on the island.

I don't know what you believe about God and I don't think you know what I believe. I believe what the Bible says and haven't said much about it on here. It is impossible in a short space on here to give an adequate response. The belief in an intelligent Creator has been a common belief for thousands of years. It is reasonable to believe the Bible's account. There must have been a purpose for God to create mankind. That purpose is God created the universe and mankind for his own glory. The Bible makes more sense than to just believe we are all here because of some accident of the cosmos. That doesn't explain how such a complex being as mankind came to be. To really understand that men were inspired by God to write the Bible and God directed the words that they wrote one would need to study the Bible first. The Bible offers internal evidence and also external evidence to support the belief that it came from God. I can't give all that information on here. There are many books and websites that go into it. One is: Themes.pdf I don't believe the U.S. government is a righteous government. I am not saying they are an example we should follow either. I don't believe that. But will look into it again and possible give a reply. Much of what you said is just not true. There were also great women in the Bible. As to why women should subscribe to the Bible, there are a number of reasons. Most importantly, to be born again, receive eternal life, and become a child of God. Aside from that, men and women were created with separate roles in life. It does not mean women are not equal. They are equal and just as important as men. But there is a difference between men and women. They are important in countless ways. Men are taught in the Bible to love their wives as themselves. I don't think that is right. You are giving a false portrayal of what the Bible teaches about women. The criticism about the Bible and women's treatment or role is often misguided and based on an incorrect understanding of the Bible. It has been twisted by anti-Christian or anti-Bible individuals or groups to suit their own agenda. The place of women has been a hot topic among Christians and churches as well. But this is what one website says about the role of women in a Christian marriage. " When we read Paul’s words in Ephesians 5:23, where he says, “For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church,” it can feel confusing, even unsettling, if we don’t take time to understand what Paul really means. Does being “the head” mean authority and control? Are wives supposed to submit without question, and does this teaching imply inequality? These questions are valid, and to understand Paul’s intent, we need to dig into the cultural context and the deeper meaning of Christ-like leadership. When Paul speaks about the husband being the head, the original Greek word he uses is “kephalē,” which can refer to the source or origin of something—like the headwaters of a river. This helps us see that Paul's words aren’t about domination but about responsibility and care. Just as Christ’s leadership over the church is rooted in sacrificial love, a husband’s role is not to control, but to serve and nurture his wife, putting her needs above his own. Paul’s teaching is less about hierarchy and more about mutual submission (Ephesians 5:21) and partnership rooted in love." What Does the Bible Really Say about Women? Their Roles & Value

I wouldn't support hateful actions against anybody. I don't think a lot of Bible-believing Christians would support hateful actions. Hateful actions is not what the Bible teaches. That kind of thing exists among a fringe of society. We have those kind of fringes in every shade of political group.

You gave a well thought-out reply. "19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. {in them: or, to them} 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:" Romans 1:19, 20 KJV Yes man is born with a conscience which does to some extent, in some people, tell the some things that are right and wrong. However, the conscience is a very limited basis and not at all adequate as a rule of life. That is why God gave mankind his written revelation, in English, the King James Bible. There are many things that the conscience does not provide direction for. That is why we need righteous governments and the Bible. But how the government operates is where the problem is. Also what young people are taught in school is important and what parents teach them. Unfortunately, aboriginals did not have the Bible and the knowledge from it so they lived in very uncivilized barbaric societies. They certainly did not know what the Bible would define as right and wrong. Often it is difficult to find the details of the many things they did, but most people must know that much of it was not good. You may be able to find out by searching the internet but it might not be easy to find. Empathy may be a useful thing but it is not a guide on what is right or wrong. The Bible does tell us in the first part of Genesis that man rebelled against God and as a consequence received a fallen, corrupt nature. This was passed down to all of humanity. The result is the Bible says the human heart is deceitful and wicked. Whether one is an atheist or not, he still is born with this corrupt human heart. That is the problem is a nutshell. The Bible gives the solution to that. Any society that ignores all that is on downward trajectory. That's where society is now.

If there are no absolutes then how does a government or society know what is right or wrong? Ah but those things I listed do affect all of society. One example is the soft-on-crime policies and laws of the Liberal government. Nobody is safe in the cities because criminals often don't go to jail and serious dangerous offenders are out on the streets. I met a man the other day who carries a can of bear spray for self protection. That's not how society should be.