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Again you are in denial. You don't seem to comprehend.

Worship? You just keep twisting the facts and using these deceitful words. That is not what Catholics do. It depends on your definition of worship. Adoration of Mary, praying to her, and believing she is the "Mother of God" is a form of worship. So who is the liar on here? It's not me. Facts are facts. Nothing deceitful about what I said. I quoted you the Catholic catechism and that tells you the facts of what they believe. You are in denial.

Yes, you make some good suggestions. If Walmart can do self check-out, why not the post office? Everything should be automated and stamps should be $2.00. They should be able to set up a couple automated kiosks in the local drug store post office where customers could weigh the parcels and everything should be automated. The current system is very backward and inefficient. It shouldn't cost $20 to mail a box of chocolates. If Amazon can deliver packages for about $6 or $8, why can't the post office? Mail delivery could be a couple times a week in the cities. That should be enough.

OF course but that is not the point. You seem to be acting very evasive. The Catholic catechism teaches the sacraments are the chief means of salvation as I already quoted to you from their catechism. Are you a Roman Catholic? Yes or No. Yes, I posted that but no, it does not say I said Mary was necessary for salvation. I posted the reasons from the catechism why they believe Mary worship is important.

I don't recall saying that. I said the Catechism teaches salvation comes through receiving the Catholic sacraments. And I just quoted the part of the catechism that says the sacraments are the chief means of salvation on my last post just above this one. But here is the reason they pray to Mary according to the Catholic catechism. "164. Why should we frequently say the Hail Mary? We should frequently say the Hail Mary to put us in mind of the Incarnation of the Son of God; and to honour our Blessed Lady, the Mother of God. 165. Have we another reason for often saying the Hail Mary? We have another reason for often saying the Hail Mary - to ask our Blessed Lady to pray for us sinners at all times, but especially at the hour of our death. 166. Why does the Catholic Church show great devotion to the Blessed Virgin? The Catholic Church shows great devotion to the Blessed Virgin because she is the Immaculate Mother of God." Simple Catechism

User said: Show us this teaching you are talking about. This is not what is taught at all. "252. Ought we to have a great desire to receive the Sacraments? We ought to have a great desire to receive the Sacraments, because they are the chief means of our salvation." -Catholic catechism Simple Catechism

Afraid it is. I gave you the link to the Catholic church's catechism. But here is a brief part of it about praying to Mary (the so-called "Mother of God"). "159. How can we show that the Angels and Saints know what passes on earth? We can show that the Angels and Saints know what passes on earth from the words of Christ: ‘There shall be joy before the Angels of God upon one sinner doing penance. Luke 15:10 Doing penance. Being sorry and trying to make satisfaction for sin. 160. What is the chief prayer to the Blessed Virgin which the Church uses? The chief prayer to the Blessed Virgin which the church uses is the Hail Mary. 161. Say the Hail Mary. ★ Hail Mary, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now, and at the hour of our death. Amen. Hail. Equivalent to ‘Ave’ or ‘Salve’, meaning ‘Be well’, ‘Health to thee’, or ‘I salute thee’. 162. Who made the first part of the Hail Mary? The Angel Gabriel and St. Elizabeth, inspired by the Holy Spirit, made the first part of the Hail Mary. Luke 1:28, 1:42 163. Who made the second part of the Hail Mary? The Church of God, guided by the Holy Spirit, made the second part of the Hail Mary. Guided. Directed, led, being shown the way. By the Holy Spirit. Pronounced at the Ecumenical Council of Ephesus in year 431. 164. Why should we frequently say the Hail Mary? We should frequently say the Hail Mary to put us in mind of the Incarnation of the Son of God; and to honour our Blessed Lady, the Mother of God. 165. Have we another reason for often saying the Hail Mary? We have another reason for often saying the Hail Mary - to ask our Blessed Lady to pray for us sinners at all times, but especially at the hour of our death. 166. Why does the Catholic Church show great devotion to the Blessed Virgin? The Catholic Church shows great devotion to the Blessed Virgin because she is the Immaculate Mother of God." Simple Catechism There are a number of things in here which are contrary to the Bible. 1. "trying to make satisfaction for sin" is anti-Christian but is Catholic teaching. It is a denial of Christ's once for sacrifice / atonement for sin. Read Hebrews ch.9, 10, 11 "12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. " Hebrews 10:12-24 KJV 2. Praying to Mary and the saints is a form of idolatry. The Bible does not teach us to do that. It is against the ten commandments. Mary is not the "Mother of God". That is an invention of Romanism. God has no mother. 3. The dogma of the Immaculate Conception is also false. Mary was born a sinner just like everyone else. The sin nature is passed to the offspring through the father. Jesus had no earthly father and was sinless. He did not receive the sin nature because he was conceived by the Holy Spirit.

Nothing I told you is a lie. It is surprising someone who claims to be a Christian and believes the Bible would be a defender of such a false, anti-Christian religion.

It would take a book to expose the problems with their doctrines because there is so much to it. The Catechism can be a very long document. There are some a little shorter. Here is a brief part of one such catechism. "I. Baptism 256. What is Baptism? Baptism is a Sacrament which cleanses us from original sin, makes us Christians, children of God, and members of the Church. Baptism. This word means a washing. Baptism is the most necessary of all the Sacraments, as without it we cannot be saved or receive any of the others; it is the beginning of our spiritual life. There are three kinds of Baptism 1. Baptism of water, which is the Sacrament; 2. Baptism of desire; 3. Baptism of blood, or martyrdom. A person may be baptised when there is a doubt about a former Baptism. The words, ‘If thou art not already baptised’, are added to the usual form. This is called Conditional Baptism. Outward sign. The matter is water blessed on Holy Saturday and is applied in three ways 1. by immersion, or being dipped in the water; 2. effusion, of having the water poured on the person; 3. aspersion, or being sprinkled with the water. Baptism by effusion is the mode chiefly in use, The form consists of the words, ‘I baptise’, etc. Effects. Cleanses the soul from original sin, and actual sin, if any: remits both the temporal and eternal punishment; gives habitual or sanctifying grace." Simple Catechism If you want you can read it. It might not help much unless you know what the Bible teaches about the details. That is where the book I gave the link for comes in. "Roman Catholicism" goes into the details and how it is contrary to the Bible.

No, I can't support your idea that Romanism is a "Christian" denomination. What you saying is false. Why would I accept an anti-Christian system as something to be honoured as a "Christian" religion? That is illogical. Everyone has a right to oppose another religion. That is what freedom of religion and freedom of speech is all about. Again you are being nonsensical. I gave you basic information in my posts. It is not up to me to spoon feed you like a baby. If you doubt what I posted, you are free to do a search for Catholic catechisms and read what they say yourself. It is not up to me to go to extremes to try to convince you. You have already proven you don't care what I post. That is your decision. If you don't believe what I posted, look into it yourself. Don't expect me to spend hours searching for catechisms and trying to convince you when you already demonstrated you don't care.

Nothing baseless or absurd about what I said. You are the one denying the truth. You seem to have great difficulty in admitting you are wrong and owning up to it. I will leave it with you. You are free to look into it. No use talking to apostates and others who deny the truth.

How did those things teach what it is all about? The RC Council of Trent in the 1500s disagrees with you with the canons they decreed. These canons have never been removed or renounced by the Roman church. quote Lutheranism was growing strong in the 1500s. In response to this, the Roman Catholic Church convened the Council of Trent in November of 1544 in an attempt to counter the doctrines raised and supported by the Reformers. The official opening of the council was on Dec. 13, 1545, and was closed on Dec. 14, 1563. The council delivered many statements on various subjects. These Canons have never been denied by the Roman Catholic Church. They do teach doctrines that are contrary to Scripture. The following are several of the doctrinal statements made on Justification at the Council of Trent. After each Canon are scriptures that contradict that Canon. You can click on them to read them in context. Finally, you will see the word “anathema” used many times by the Council. This means that those who disagree with the doctrines of this Council are cursed. In Gal. 1:8-9, the word “anathema” is used. The curse must come from God. Therefore, we conclude that according to Roman Catholicism, anyone who disagrees with the following Canons is cursed by God. The Roman Catholic church excommunicates those under anathema. In other words, ex-communication means being outside the Christian church. Being outside the church means you are not saved. In spite of what Catholicism states, the Bible speaks differently. Following each Canon is a list of appropriate scriptures countering the Catholic position that is declared in the Council of Trent. CANON 9: “If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema.” https://history.hanover.edu/texts/trent/ct06.html “because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin” (Rom. 3:20). “being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus” (Rom. 3:24). “For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law” (Rom. 3:28). “For what does the Scripture say? ‘ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS” (Rom. 4:3). “Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ” (Rom. 5:1). “For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God” (Eph. 2:8). “He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit” (Titus 3:5). CANON 12: “If any one shall say that justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in the divine mercy pardoning sins for Christ’s sake, or that it is that confidence alone by which we are justified…let him be accursed.” https://history.hanover.edu/texts/trent/ct06.html “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name” (John 1:12). “For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law” (Rom. 3:28). “For what does the Scripture say? “ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS'” (Rom. 4:3). “Therefore He is able also to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. 26 For it was fitting for us to have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners and exalted above the heavens; 27 who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself” (Heb. 7:25–27). “For this reason, I also suffer these things, but I am not ashamed; for I know whom I have believed and I am convinced that He is able to guard what I have entrusted to Him until that day” (2 Tim. 1:12). Canon 14: “If anyone saith, that man is truly absolved from his sins and justified, because that he assuredly believed himself absolved and justified; or, that no one is truly justified but he who believes himself justified; and that, by this faith alone, absolution and justification are effected; let him be anathema.” https://history.hanover.edu/texts/trent/ct06.html unquote Council of Trent: Canons on Justification | carm.org

There is nothing absurd or extreme about what I am telling you. What do you think about this? "But it places Mary and the priest as mediators between Him and the believer, so that there is no way of access to Him except through them. He is usually presented either as a helpless babe in His mother’s arms or as a dead Christ upon a cross. In either case He is effectively removed as a strong, virile, living personality, or as a daily companion or Savior who hears and answers prayer. He has little to do with the problems of everyday life. All are urged to pray to Mary and the saints, who in turn present the prayers to Christ or to the Father and intercede for them." So tell me how one can believe this Romanist system and at the same time believe in Christ alone as Savior?

I quoted a few parts of the book that explain clearly what this all about. Did you even bother to read what I posted. You seem to reject anything that explains the problem. I met lots of people, even ministers, whose minds are completely closed to anything. That's the grip Satan has on many people nowadays.

Sure but the Roman Church teaches a pile of anti-Biblical dogmas that oppose salvation by faith alone in Christ alone. You can't dispute that. All you have to do is read their catechism to see that. quote The Roman Church teaches the deity of Christ. But it places Mary and the priest as mediators between Him and the believer, so that there is no way of access to Him except through them. He is usually presented either as a helpless babe in His mother’s arms or as a dead Christ upon a cross. In either case He is effectively removed as a strong, virile, living personality, or as a daily companion or Savior who hears and answers prayer. He has little to do with the problems of everyday life. All are urged to pray to Mary and the saints, who in turn present the prayers to Christ or to the Father and intercede for them. The Roman Church teaches the forgiveness of sin, but only as it is confessed to a priest and absolution is received from him. It places a human priesthood between the people and God, while the Bible teaches that the sacrifice of Christ ended forever the work of the priests, that Christ alone is now our High Priest, and that we are to go directly to God in prayer. The complete dependence of the Roman Church upon the priesthood as the heart of the system, while the New Testament teaches that the sacrificing priesthood was abolished and that the universal priesthood of believers was established in its place, means that the system is false at its very center. Though some liberal churchmen talk of an eventual union of the Protestant churches and the Roman Catholic Church, this point alone, apart from that of acknowledging the authority of the pope, which is the one point that Romanists insist upon above all others, should be sufficient to show how impossible any such union is. Instead of the Scripture doctrine of salvation by grace through faith alone, the Roman Church substitutes a system of grace plus works, in which works have a larger place than faith, and in which one works long and hard for his salvation. In actual practice it has become a system of absolutism, claiming to admit souls to or exclude them from heaven as they meet or fail to meet its demands for confession and penance. Its saving truths are covered over with a mass of human inventions and throughout most of its ritual and practice they are not savingly presented. It gives such false and misleading answers to the crucial questions about the way of salvation that the large proportion of those who trust themselves to it fail to show by their lives that they have undergone a true spiritual change. unquote from page 398 Roman Catholicism : Loraine Boettner : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

You are not making any sense. You are the one making false claims with nothing to back them up. I gave you the link to an in depth book that answers everything about Roman Catholicism's teachings and what the Bible says. Now you just dismiss anything I say. You sound more like you are indoctrinated with a diabolical cult mentality and are incapable of reading or understanding anything else. If you are going to play the cult member, don't waste our time on here. Are you in some kind of cult or what?

You haven't studied this subject at all; yet you make false claims endlessl y. Defending Romanism is like defending Satanism. I would suggest you do some studying. I am more than happy to debate this with you, but you have presented nothing of any substance to support your claims. The Romanist system is built on the claim that Peter was the first Pope, but there is no evidence of that in the Bible and there isn't even any evidence that the Apostle Peter was ever in Rome in spite of the Roman Church's claims.

Read the book "Roman Catholicism" and learn the facts. " quote 7 Tradition Condemned by the Scriptures In New Testament times the Jews had a great body of tradition, the accumulation of centuries, which they gave precedence over Scripture. But Jesus never mentioned tradition except to condemn it and to warn against it. He rebuked the Pharisees with these words: “Ye leave the commandment of God, and hold fast the tradition of men. ... Ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your tradition... making void the word of God by your tradition” (Mark 7:8,9,13). “And he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition. ... Ye have made void the word of God because of your tradition. ... But in vain do they worship me, teaching as their doctrines the precepts of men” (Matthew 15:3,6,9). Thus our Lord rebuked the Pharisees for doing precisely what the Church of Rome does today, for substituting a body of human teachings and making it equal to or even superior to the Word of God. In Jesus’ day traditionalism had become so perverse and powerful that it finally crucified Him. Religion was so blinded by its own distortions of the Word of God that it took the cross to expose it and upset it and to reveal the truth once more. In a similar way the Church of Rome is following a set of traditions that she has accumulated through the centuries, which by her own pronouncements she has elevated to equal authority with, or even to superiority over the Word of God. Her purpose, of course, is to justify doctrines and practices which have no basis in Scripture, or which are in violation of Scripture commands. In order for Rome to defend her use of tradition, which admittedly came into use long after the New Testament was completed, it was necessary for her to assert that the authority of the church is superior to that of the Scriptures. Protestantism holds that the Scriptures are the infallible rule of faith and practice, and that the church as an institution and all believers must be governed by that authority. The Church of Rome, on the other hand, holds that she is the supreme authority in matters of faith and practice. She even attempts to say that the Roman Catholic Church produced the Bible, and that the pope as the vicar of Christ on earth has the right to legislate for the church. But such claims are absurd, because the New Testament was completed in the first century of the Christian era while the Roman Catholic Church with its distinctive features and its separate existence did not come into being until about four centuries later. Furthermore, the sin and corruption that have characterized the Roman Church, particularly during the Middle Ages when so many of her doctrines and practices originated, is proof that she is in no sense superior to the Bible but quite the contrary. But because of that teaching, the average Roman Catholic may not be particularly impressed when it is pointed out to him that the doctrines of purgatory, the mass, indulgences, penance, the use of images, etc., are not in Bible or even that they are contrary to the Bible. He believes these things, not because he has Scriptural authority for them, but because the church teaches them. This again shows how pernicious can be the use of tradition. The reason that the Jews had departed from their Scriptures was that they accepted tradition and the decisions of their councils as their guide of faith. The Roman Church has made the same mistake. She, too, has compromised the truth of the Bible in order to follow tradition. When she began putting herself on a par with Scripture she found it impossible to stop there. The next step was to place herself above Scripture, and she has assumed that position ever since." P.82 Roman Catholicism

What some people say means nothing when what they practice and teach in their catechisms, mass, and various sacraments contradicts such claims. "Modernistic and liberal theology has so enervated many of the churches that they have little zeal left to propagate their faith. Let Protestantism return to its evangelical message and to the type of missionary zeal that governed the early Christians, and let Protestants challenge Rome to full and open debate regarding the distinctive doctrines that separate the two systems, and it will be seen that the one thing Rome does not want is public discussion. Rome prefers to assert her alleged “rights” and to have them accepted without too much question. But Protestantism has the truth, and can win this battle any time that it is willing to force the issue." -Roman Catholicism by Loraine Boettner on archive website.

You don't seem to have any knowledge about what the RC religion teaches or what it is all about. I have had Catholic friends in my youth and in adulthood too. When I was a Catholic in a small village I had a priest stay over at our house every Saturday night and he even brought a bishop who stayed and ate with us at our house one weekend. But aside from that I have studied the religion in books by extremely knowledgeable authors. One book which you can read right now online is written by Loraine Boettner is an extremely detailed description of Rome's beliefs and comparison with the Bible. This might be the best book by a very knowledgeable theologian that you can find. It is called Roman Catholicism and is available to download as a pdf file so you can read it anytime. Roman Catholicism : Loraine Boettner : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive It is time to do some serious studying of this. quote Throughout history the Roman Church has sought to gain power from the state, but has never willingly relinquished power to the state. It has always resented paying taxes to the state, even on purely commercial properties that are owned and operated by it, and it has resented any laws requiring its priests to pay income taxes. The continual meddling of the Roman Church in politics, even to the extent of sponsoring Roman Catholic political parties where it is strong enough to do so (usually known as the “Christian Democratic” party, or a similar name, as in Italy, France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc.), has caused much resentment. That, no doubt, is also its plan for the United States if and when it becomes strong enough. Usually a political party is not instituted unless it can control at least one fourth of the total vote. How can any unprejudiced person face these facts and still not see the contrast between the two systems? unquote In Canada, the Roman church has pretty well gained control of our political system through the Liberal Party. It is largely controlled through Quebec which is mainly RC. The only thing is they can't impose their moral beliefs through the party. But they have a strong influence otherwise through the Liberal machine and by having RC Prime Ministers and MPs. This is how they gained power in Canada.

Clearly you don't know anything about it. They don't believe those things the way you think they do. One doesn't believe in Christ alone as his Savior and still believe in RC dogma and devoutly support and believe in the anti-Christ's system. The two just don't mix. It is a diabolical system. One can't have it both ways. Repentance means renouncing an evil system and coming out of it. I grew up as a Catholic and was one until about age 35. I have studied it quite a bit since that time and know what their system teaches and what the Bible teaches. Many so-called Protestants have abandoned the truths proclaimed in the Reformation. Much of Anglicanism, Luthernism etc. has become ecumenical and no longer stands for the truth. They believe the lies that Satan has been able to spread. This is why I told you to do some studying before replying, but you wouldn't. You are in great darkness my friend.

Seriously? What on earth are you trying to say? Do you seriously think Romanism is Christianity? Not sure what kind of churches you have attended but if they taught you Romanism is Christianity, they are extremely apostate and don't know anything about Romanism. Rome does not believe in or teach the true gospel of salvation by faith alone in Jesus Christ, as taught in the Bible so how can it not be a salvation issue? Why do you think the Reformation was necessary? I think you need to do some serious study before replying to this.

Correct. I never said one needed a church or denomination to be in contact with the Creator. "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time." 1 Timothy 2:5, 6 King James Version (KJV) Catholicism teaches you need the Roman church's priest's sacraments and Mary.

If one really believes the Bible and understands what Rome teaches versus what the Bible teaches, he will know that it is a false religion. Since PM Carney is a devout follower of the false religion of Romanism, can his judgment be trusted in his position as PM? Many of our PMs have also been a part of that religion, but many of them were probably not particularly devout. Maybe more nominal if they did not attend that church regularly and follow all of its practices. Many bad decisions have also been made down through the history of Canada since Confederation. This article reveals why it is a false religion. quote The Truth About Roman Catholicism by Marion H. Reynolds, Jr. (1919-1997) ©Fundamental Evangelistic Association The Roman Catholic Church is by far the largest and wealthiest of all the so-called Christian denominations. It has always falsely claimed to be the only true Church—the Church which was founded by Jesus Christ during His earthly ministry. In recent generations, the Roman Catholic Church has embellished its image and attracted and held members by claiming to be the one Church that has never changed. However, all such claims are false. In fact, the Roman Catholic Church has done an about-face, actually boasting of the many changes it has instituted to meet the changing needs of Catholics and non-Catholics alike in this modern age Is the Roman Catholic Church the one true Church? Are its past and present teachings and practices Scriptural? Of course not! How has the Roman Catholic Church changed through the centuries? How much has it changed in our lifetime? Have these changes been foundational or superficial? Where is the Roman Catholic Church headed today and in the future. The purpose of this article is to turn the spotlight of truth upon Roman Catholicism, examining both its past history and present teachings. Our sincere desire is to be of help to Catholics, many of whom are well aware that, in recent years, their church has instituted many changes that have left them confused, uncertain, and deeply troubled. For the first time in their lives, many Catholics are raising serious questions about their Church, its leaders, its teachings and its practices. They now realize that their church is not united but divided over issues such as birth control, abortion, divorce, celibacy for priests, women clergy, gay clergy, Papal infallibility, prayer, worship, music, purgatory, confession, Marioltry and even the meaning of the Mass. The moral degeneracy and financial scandals that have rocked the Charismatic movement have also been exposed in the Roman Catholic Church, from the Vatican to the local parish. Confusion reigns supreme and Catholics who take their religion seriously don't know which way to turn. A source of further confusion for many is the fact that for centuries Roman Catholics were taught that all those outside their membership were heretics to be shunned, persecuted or even killed. It was not until the middle of this century that the Roman Catholic Church modified and softened its stand by calling non-Catholics, "separated brethren." More recently, even that negative connotation has been eliminated. Today, Catholics are taught to consider "all Christians" to be "brothers and sisters in Christ." However, these changing outward attitudes on the part of Roman Catholics toward non-Catholics and their increasing usage of evangelical terminology has unfortunately resulted in many evangelicals mistakenly believing that the basic false doctrines and heresies of Romanism have changed, something that simply is not true. Thus, both Catholics and non-Catholics alike should take a fresh look—a Biblical, historical and current look—at this world's largest, supposedly Christian denomination. If it is the one true Church, as it claims to be, then every believer in Christ should become a part of it. But if it is a false church, as it actually is, then all who truly believe the Bible and trust Jesus Christ as Saviour should separate from it, warn about it, and urge others to do likewise. Through our extensive radio and literature ministries, it has been a great blessing to hear from many former Roman Catholics who have been delivered from the bondage of the false doctrines of Romanism. They experienced the new birth by faith in Jesus Christ alone and are now attempting to reach their Catholic loved ones and friends with the Word of God and the Gospel of Jesus Christ. At the same time, it has been a real heartache to realize that so many non-Catholics who profess to know Christ as Saviour have been deceived by the new attitudes and evangelical vocabulary of Catholicism. The Roman Catholic Church is now being accepted by many evangelicals as a sister church with only minor differences rather than a false church which preaches "another gospel"—a false gospel. The Truth About the Roman Catholic Church is that it always has been and continues to be a false church. Those Biblical doctrines it professes to believe and teach are vitiated by Roman Catholic dogma based upon tradition that contradicts the Bible, God's infallible Word. Error is never more deceptive than when it is presented with a veneer of truth. The leaders of the Catholic Church have always fit the description of the false teachers who God warned in advance would come on the scene in the last days, deceiving many by their "feigned" (pretended or hypocritical) words—their "great swelling words of vanity," as described in 2 Peter 2:1-3,18,19. Before examining and refuting some of the well known false teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, it is essential to understand that two basic false teachings of Roman Catholicism (even apart from its many other errors), clearly classify it as a false cult rather than a true church. These two basic errors are: First, Roman Catholicism, although teaching that the Bible is the Word of God, adds the spurious apocryphal books to the Scriptures, and also elevates church tradition and the edicts of popes and councils (the words of men), to the same or an even greater level of authority than the Word of God. This amounts to adding to the Word of God, thereby placing Roman Catholicism under God's curse. Deut. 4:2; Rev. 22:18,19. Second, Roman Catholicism, although teaching that faith in Jesus Christ is necessary for salvation, actually denies the truth of the Gospel by adding sacraments, good works, and purgatory as additional requirements for forgiveness of sin and for eternal life. This amounts to the preaching of a false Gospel which places the Roman Catholic Church under God's curse. Gal. 1:6-10. Thus, by Scriptural standards, the Roman Catholic Church is a false church that can only expect God's judgment, not a true church that can claim God's blessing. No amount of outward change should be permitted to obscure this fact. unquote For the rest of the article go to: Roman Catholicism Resources If one is a Bible believer, he should try to understand why someone believes all these false teachings of Rome. LIke many people in the world today, these people were probably inculcated with this false religion from their childhood. Maybe their parents took them to their church where they learned the false teachings. Or maybe they attended a RC school and were taught all the errors there. Either way they grew up believing these things and so today those are the beliefs they hold. Trudeau was a Romanist and even though he did not appear to be a devout or regular church attender, he had what appeared to be a strong disdain for evangelical Christians, and it is reported that he once said they were the worst kind of Canadians. That seems to be a Liberal belief. The biggest problem is the Liberal belief system that they hold. Romanism does not seem to forbid the worst liberal beliefs. The problem is when one's mind is locked into the Romanism system, their mind is closed to Biblical truth. These truths expose the evils of Liberalism. Only by God's grace does one begin to read and believe the Bible. That is the only way they might be delivered from the Liberal ideological mindset.

We will have to agree to disagree and leave it at that. I don't believe punishing Canadians with tariffs and making life more expensive for everyone will solve the tariff crisis or tariff war with Trump. Why make life more miserable for millions of Canadians? We have to pursue other solutions the main one being changes in our economy to build a strong economy. Build, built, build, drill, drill, drill kind of thing and find other markets than the U.S.