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I have been talking a bit of late of the incredible level of delusional behavior that goes on here among so many of MLW members. Much information has been put forward from myriad US and other credible sources of how deeply the CIA/NSA/US government is involved in terrorist actions around the globe against so many countries. Even with all these facts, not just from all the other sources, everyone can, and should be able to see for themselves all the illegal invasions, the war crimes, the terrorism the US engages in daily against the world. https://www.counterpunch.org/2007/11/28/cia-venezuela-destabilization-memo-surfaces/ NOVEMBER 28, 2007 CIA Venezuela Destabilization Memo Surfaces by JAMES PETRAS On November 26, 2007 the Venezuelan government broadcast and circulated a confidential memo from the US embassy to the CIA which is devastatingly revealing of US clandestine operations and which will influence the referendum this Sunday, December 2, 2007. The memo sent by an embassy official, Michael Middleton Steere, was addressed to the Director of Central Intelligence, Michael Hayden. The memo was entitled ‘Advancing to the Last Phase of Operation Pincer’ and updates the activity by a CIA unit with the acronym ‘HUMINT’ (Human Intelligence) which is engaged in clandestine action to destabilize the forth-coming referendum and coordinate the civil military overthrow of the elected Chavez government. The Embassy-CIA’s polls concede that 57 per cent of the voters approved of the constitutional amendments proposed by Chavez but also predicted a 60 per cent abstention. The US operatives emphasized their capacity to recruit former Chavez supporters among the social democrats (PODEMOS) and the former Minister of Defense Baduel, claiming to have reduced the ‘yes’ vote by 6 per cent from its original margin. Nevertheless the Embassy operatives concede that they have reached their ceiling, recognizing they cannot defeat the amendments via the electoral route. The memo then recommends that Operation Pincer (OP) [Operación Tenaza] be operationalized. OP involves a two-pronged strategy of impeding the referendum, rejecting the outcome at the same time as calling for a ‘no’ vote. The run up to the referendum includes running phony polls, attacking electoral officials and running propaganda through the private media accusing the government of fraud and calling for a ‘no’ vote. Contradictions, the report emphasizes, are of no matter.

Do you remember Diebold, Betsy? What do you emphasize elected like it is some holy grail, something handed down from dog almighty? Political parties pick the candidates that you sheeple think you elect.

Another stark admission, one of many many, that you are absolutely capable of denying reality.

You don't understand the word 'meme'. You don't understand a lot. What you post are memes, mixed with much rabid support for all things evil. How come you have abandoned showing your deep love for US evil in favor of rank propaganda?

All these silly science deniers. What is wrong with people that they can be so demented as to deny stark reality. It is rampant here at MLW. [bolded, below, is mine] Nanoscale Chemistry Yields Better Explosives ... These new materials have structures that can be controlled on the nanometer (billionth-of-a-meter) scale. Simpson explains, "In general, the smaller the size of the materials being combined, the better the properties of energetic materials. Since these `nanostructures' are formed with particles on the nanometer scale, the performance can be improved over materials with particles the size of grains of sand or of powdered sugar. In addition, these `nanocomposite' materials can be easier and much safer to make than those made with traditional methods." https://str.llnl.gov/str/RSimpson.html

A stunning lie, Betsy. Isn't that a major sin for you? And the people who remain silent when they know the truth are equally liars. Protectors don't slaughter tens of millions of people. Protectors don't murder children in planned genocides. Protectors don't steal others wealth. In point of fact, you support and encourage everything evil that you as a "christian" are supposed to be against.

The US, having stolen vast sums of wealth from most of the world is a relatively safe place. 'Utopia", pure crap, more like a poorly run dystopia. The country is beautiful, the governments are all war criminal/terrorist gangsters. What kind of a "christian" are you, Betsy?

You keep on with the same old meme, totally ignoring the deep evil of the US, the war crimes, the baby slaughters, all the things you love and delight in seeing done. "and the threat of western colonialism", this is one of the major reasons people flee their homelands, because the US is murdering them there. You totally ignore reality which is what rank propagandists do, which is what you are. Arrival of Chinese in 1858 The first wave of Chinese came to Canada in 1858 to pan for gold in British Columbia. Most of these migrants were young, landless, illiterate men from the province of Guangdong in southern China. They were drawn by the lure of “gold fever” as much as they were escaping harsh conditions in China such as famine, internal rebellions, population pressures and the threat of Western colonialism.

Says the fella leading the campaign for justice for all the Missing and Murdered First Nations women, the ones that law enforcement would have had their way with for over a century.

Another "they say", Goddess. Did you learn a thing in university?

Completely false, August1991. You prance and preen but it's all empty talk from you. You remind me of Marie Antoinette and " they have no bread, let them eat cake".

You likely are this ignorant of history, Betsy. And I have noticed that the rest of your fellow posters are too. The US has raped and pillaged Haiti until there ain't no more. The US owes Haiti billions in reparations, just as the US owes myriad other countries billions/trillions in reparation.

Western nations NEVER hear what others in the world are saying. It's always the US and its media whores that control the narrative. That is how it has always been and you all think you live in such a free and open society. You prance about, preening your democratic feathers with a conceit that is sickening. How come none of you know that the UNGA has been condemning the US for 25 years for its terrorism against Cuba? This is the whole world voting 198 to 2, Canada, UK, Australia but what do we hear from out governments - nothing at all! How come none of you speak out about the US/UK slaughter of a million Iraqi children with the US planned and discussed beforehand genocide? You're all too busy pretending to care about memes that you have been fed by your propaganda masters.

Your beliefs come from your predilection for wacky US propaganda novels. By reading these you think you know something of the world. What part of Dr Bruce Cumings, Chair, University of Chicago, comments did you not understand? The US was in Korea before the end of WWII, conspiring with the Japanese to take over from Japanese colonial rule. What do you in the west do? What you have always done, sit silent while the US has committed vicious war crimes after vicious war crimes against myriad nations. You have never been on any peoples' side. If you were you would speak out against these horrendous US crimes. For dog's sakes, the US is still committing war crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, ... .

it is just that the US Fed is the ONLY central bank owned by its member banks (and just think carefully about who actually controls them). THE WHOLE FRIGGING WORLD has become so greedy that they are ALL happy to let redistribution of wealth by speculative gain (heavily manipulated) become the defacto economy, rather than the one in which wealth is actually created (i.e. by actually MAKING something, or doing something to support productive activity). What is unique about the US is that by owning the central bank, the member banks can simply increase the money supply, stuff the bux into their own back pockets, and pass the bill on to the citizens of the US (mostly in the form of pent-up inflationary forces). As long as the Greenback maintains hegamony, it will not inflate and devalue as doing so wipes out the US denominated holdings AND INSTRUMENTS of all of the other central and commercial banks of the world. You've just described US monetary terrorism. So there is nothing here either that makes the US a great, even good nation. It has used its economic power as a terrorist tool as much as it has used its military as a war criminal/terrorist tool. What kind of a nation is one that has been in a state of war for 90 plus percent of its years as a country. PLEASE, do not blame the sins of Wall Street and the Beltway on the people and Constitution of the USA.. It's supposed to be government of the people, by the people, for the people. These are the very people that have cheered their governments on in the 90 plus percent of its years as a country state of war, virtually all of those custom made to steal the wealth of the world's poor. As for the constitution, it was a farce invented by terrorists who only wanted to replace the Brits collecting the wealth with themselves collecting the wealth and they duped a lot of people into thinking it was for them.

Yes, let's do face the facts. Why do you malign good friends of the USA? "What I found with all of this study is that the subject, the problem, if you will, for the world, for the U.S. is much, much, much graver, astronomically graver, than just Angola and Vietnam. I found that the Senate Church committee has reported, in their study of covert actions, that the CIA ran several thousand covert actions since 1961, and that the heyday of covert action was before 1961; that we have run several hundred covert actions a year, and the CIA has been in business for a total of 37 years." John Stockwell Do you see some good in this? Many economies collapse. US economies collapse frequently and their huge economic crimes help bring down the world economy. We are still in the shit of the US caused 2008 collapse.

That's absolutely correct. Finally you admit, with your usual poor English, that nanothermite was placed in the three towers. The same nanothermite that was found in WTC dust. The by products of these thermitic reactions, all found in huge volumes. All these facts make the USGOCT arrant nonsense. Hal9000 knows this, you know this, Michael Hardner knows this, anyone with half a brain knows this. The exceedingly goofy USGOCT has way way too many holes in it, holes that you could fly a 767-200 through. In fact, it's one gigantic hole because there is no evidence to support it.

Conswearvatives throw up these phony tangents all the time, particularly when you are getting smacked down.

What you need to understand, Goddess, is that all this Muslim bashing is just that, Muslim bashing. It is borne of 911 and the mostly US propaganda that has flowed from that. Here you are, the Muslim bashers pretending that you do this because you care, which is arrant nonsense. There has not been one of you who has spoken out about the slaughter of millions of Muslims by the US/UK, BUT, you make this huge pretense that you care, that you want to make things better for them, you want to bring them the blessings of the WEST. What blessings might those be, the slaughter of a million under five Iraqi children in a planned US genocide, the amoral 1990s sanctions for things that the US had provided to Iraq, the illegal invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan all based on the huge US/UK lies about the phony attacks on 911. You all are typical of, likely the same people who were bashing the Pakistanis, the Syrians, the [fill in the blank with your undesirables of the day] You all know that you are simply advancing rank propaganda because not a one of you will address the war crimes, the terrorism being perpetrated against all these peoples. You sneak in the Jewish people, thinking it will bolster your nonsense. There have been attacks from your group against many peoples, Syrians, Somalians, ... . There are many women all across Canada being abused. We have heard zilch from you folks about missing and murdered First Nations women. None of you ever cared about any of these peoples when they were being raped, murdered and tortured in their own countries by mostly the US/UK but you all suddenly got religion when they became refugees and you found them living among you.

That should tell you just how brainwashed you are, blackbird, that really ought to tell you just what a closed societies western nations are. The media is an absolute joke. The UNGA has been condemning the US for a 1/4 century, vote 198-2 [US & Israel] for its terrorism against Cuba and you have never heard that. The USA is the only country ever to be convicted of international terrorism, Nicaragua vs the USA. And you have never heard of that either. You think you live in a free and open democratic society - a humongous joke.

In a word, survival. The USA has been terrorizing the people of Korea, all of them, for almost 75 years. The US introduced nuclear weapons to the Korean peninsula around 1958, in direct contravention to the armistice agreement. The US has never had any respect for treaties with anyone. What can one expect from world class liars. It made about 500 with Native Americans and broke them all. Hence the saying, "White man speaks with forked tongue". The US slaughtered 3 million, mostly civilians, in both the north and south of Korea.

Argus, of all people, has the gall to say, "You didn't answer the question". Then more unmitigated Argus gall, he pulls out the oh so lame, "I think you are confused about which topic is being discussed", which is the go to meme whenever a conservative knows he/she has been bested.

If you knew Omni deception like I know Omni deception, jacee, you wouldn't be confused at all, you would know that is Omni par for the course.