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Another evidence free post, Rue. Why do you do this? It only makes you look foolish.

Thou doth protest too much.

All imaginary, all advanced to stir up the sheeple. Now consider that this was a completely planned, studied event by the USA wherein it knew full well, described in advance the millions that would die in Iraq from US sanctions, US bombing of water treatment plants. A PLANNED GENOCIDE! Why the silence? Why just the propaganda? Why, Argus, why?

Why do you illustrate so often that you aren't interested in honest discussion, getting to the truth, that you are simply a provocateur? Innocents are dying the world over and you are running tangents.

But they make a great target among those who operate in a knee jerk fashion.

The problem, a big one, with your analysis, is that you are so blatantly one sided, so blatant that you ignore all the evidence that doesn't square with the memes you advance. In addition, in your well known complete defiance of reality, you avoid the FACT that the USA/UK/Canada/... has slaughtered vastly more Muslims than is the reverse. You also ignore the fact that the US/UK/... committed a planned genocide against the people of Iraq in the 1990s where over a million died. Your dismal grasp on the realities of all these situations points up, clearly, why you advance these fabrications. However, such honesties cannot be spoken here at MLW.

More of the silly propaganda, Argus. Let's put this silly meme that the US is the bastion of morality and ethics to bed forever more. The US was slaughtering people in the south of Korea with their ALWAYS US installed brutal, right wing dictator, Syngman Rhee.

Nice propaganda, Michael. Why on earth are there so many brain dead people in this world? When has the USA ever told the truth about any of the myriad illegal invasions it has instigated?

If you were aware of actual history or weren't advancing falsehoods you would know that that is another ugly US lie.The USA bombed the Japanese because they were terribly racist, government people didn't want the enormous sums spent without using their bomb. The US knew full well that the Japanese were seeking surrender.

This is one of the wackiest conspiracy theories ever, Betsy, and the biggest perpetrator of conspiracy theories has always been the USA. The idea that Korea is going to launch an offense against the US is ludicrous. Some others have been Iraq WMDs, the Taliban are hiding OBL, The US propaganda system, which Canada helps along, relies on "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" individuals like you to create pathways for them to illegally invade other nations, always defenseless ones given that the US are such cowards.

It appears so, from 632AD.

Public education is in trouble because of the incredibly stupid ways we have been teaching children for hundreds of years. Pretty much everything taught about the English language is a lie, which adults repeat and the lies continue for centuries. Math isn't taught to be useful, children aren't shown how to take their rote learning and use it in the real world. French is taught in the worst way imaginable so instead of having highly bilingual people we produce totally incompetent people. "Teaching" French is a total waste of time, not because it's not valuable, as learning any 2nd, 3rd or fourth language is a very good thing, but because the manner in which it is taught is a total waste of time, because few become truly competent in French. History is one huge lie, meant only to put a shine of a pile of shit. For most of school and schooling there is almost no connection to reality.

It's in the tens of millions just for the USA just since WWII. Then there's England, France, the Netherlands, ... .

Shannon??

But the thing is you are so wildly off the mark. The US planned a genocide in Iraq and it followed thru murdering over a million people when there was absolutely no reason to do so. Only the deepest of evil people plan a genocide to kill a million children. Muslims have not done anything remotely close to that, and the US genocide in Iraq was followed up by illegal invasions that slaughtered another one or more million people.

You shouldn't spread false rumors and you should try to get your facts right when you speak of the deaths of so many people.

You know, Rue, if you would simply tell the truth, you wouldn't have to write all these long, boring, diversionary screeds. I simply cannot grasp how people can try to advance the fatuous notions that Israel isn't an apartheid state.

Hawaii was never a state of the US. Of course it has been deemed as such by the war criminals that took over Hawaii, even though the US had illegally overthrown the legitimate government of Hawaii in 1989.

You have absolutely no sense of shame, betsy. You don't really believe that this is solely a "liberal" thing.

Quite the cowardly response. It saddens me to say that all too often this is exactly how far too many conservatives react.

From the initial article: The students were three days into their canoe trip northeast of Toronto when Jeremiah slipped under the water while swimming in Big Trout Lake. While your experiment COULD be based on reality, you most certainly are not, Angus. Were the kids in the water for the full "three days into their canoe trip"? Even though you know I was describing the situation as per the article you flew off on some crazy Angus Thermopile "experiment" that didn't come close to the actual reality.

It cuts corners for people who are desperately insecure and just plain desperate.

Argus played this one so that he didn't get a Rue dump. Yet he played up other prejudices.

The case in point is the Perry boy. For you to start taking these wild ass examples is typical of you. Getting tired does in no way reduce the floating capacity of one's lungs. Yes, if one were to become totally exhausted, hypothermia would likely have already got them. Like I said, your experiment is a wild ass bit of nonsense.

Can you read, Angus? I said, " Panic, not knowing how to use these sacs, and wild water conditions can affect this". Obviously, there are parameters in play here found within the original story that come into play. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that hypothermia, wild water, etc could have some effect. Exhaustion comes from panic. Lungs cannot fail to act as flotation devices barring extraordinary circumstances. Mostly people drown because people panic. I once saw a video of a man who floated down the Colorado River at high water to prove that a historical account of that happening was possible. He could have drowned within 200 yards, had he panicked.