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The one problem with an independent investigation is it could take a hell of a long time to get results. An impeachment investigation would move much faster. I imagine as Trump hears of that possibility he won't need to spray on his orange stuff to get some color in his face.

The title will pretty "simply" tell what this thread is based on. But hey, anything to try and take a poke at Liberals.

Trump keeps on doing more and more things that could lead to him being shown the door.

18-20 allegations, ha ha ha. What happened to the nonsense that that's what caused Donald to lose the pop. vote.?

In fact SSC still don't know what the cause of the crash actually was.

Neither are we responsible for your president's failures so make sure you keep that coal smog that Trump seems to like so well inside your borders OK?

Except "nerd" is not really what you could call an identifiable community, which is the focus of hate crimes.

And of course the flip side to that is that the Repubs. may want to get rid of him so they can hold onto power in both houses. As this article suggests they could actually be even more worried about 2020. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/05/the-politics-of-impeachment-come-into-play-in-trumps-d-c.html

One would assume in an effort to protect police officers.

Now you're just making stuff up again. Nobody can actually prove that any form of sentencing can deter a crime because you can't prove why something didn't happen. But think about this, if you happened to see a stack of cash sitting on someones abandoned desk at work and you looked both ways and then shoved it in your pocket and took off, that's theft. If someone walked into a bank, pointed a gun at a teller and made off with a sack full of cash, that's also theft. Who do you suspect goes to jail for longer? A harsher penalty for a harsher crime, even though in one sense they are common. And yes, harm to communities, not only to the individual member of that community targeted by the crime, and also victimless crimes, such as graffiti on a Mosque, is tracked.

Why do you suppose we bother having hate crimes then?

You seem to think that the concept somehow provides you with less protection, therefore you don't seem to understand it. But I guess it is a somewhat complicated issue.

And after all theat time you don't understand the concept. Sorry, can't spend forever at it. If you don't like the law, talk to your local MP. That's a good place to start.

That has nothing to do with the topic.

Nope. The law offers equal protection for you shins whatever color they may be. As best it can.

Basically I'm not sure I can make heads or tails out of your post about "your shins".

They are equally protected.

You don't seem to get it. You can hate all you want, just don't let your hatred inspire you to commit a crime, or else you get your p p whacked a little harder.

Again it goes to the added harm done to the particular community at large over and above that done to the individual member.

HUH?

Good point, I heard an interesting interview with a retired state judge from the US discussing MMS that was brought in in his state during his tenure. He mentioned one particular case where a high school grad. who was on his way to college with two scholarships, one for sports, one for academic achievement. The kid ended up in front of him because he got caught with a couple of joints. The case previous was with a guy who showed up regularly in front of the same judge for the same offense. He was forced to send them both to jail for 6 months due to MMS law. He was torn up because he knew the jail sentence would wreck this kids life, and had he have actually had the chance to be a JUDGE, he would have fined him a few hundred bucks and told him to not ever show up in his courtroom again, and hopefully the kid would have carried on to his college career. His closing comment was this kid was not really a criminal in my eyes, but he may very well be at the end of his sentence.

Well you see I'm ethnic. I'm the product of Scottish immigrants, and I don't want anybody beating me up just because I pick up the bagpipes.

Whatever blows your hair back.

Can't win 'em all as they say.

Sorry, but me, oftenwrong, and the Canadian legal system disagree with you.