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NATO isn't sending troops. This is just a deflection to bolster your useful idiot Pro Putin Stance.

Back to this meaningless talking point.

You need to update your algorithm

I don't have any Military training. I'd be as useful to Ukraine as the poor conscripts Russia is throwing to the front line to be slaughtered.

And you have a real talent for posts calling people stupid without demonstrating why the post is stupid.

Wagner Group FTW.

And Westerners are volunteering to fight in Ukraine.

NATO is not on the front lines in this conflict. They are providing military aid for an outcome that benefits its members. Which is not without precedent.

Charles Lindbergh was a known Nazi Sympathizer, but the Spirit of St. Louis is still in the Smithsonian.

So we shouldn't support Ukraine because of ONE! Neo Nazi Brigade? The Ukraine military is now largely composed of Free man fighting for their homeland. It's admirable.

So you're fine with a nation the size of Quebec falling under the influence of the USSR because you're afraid he'll use Nukes if he doesn't get his way. But he'll stop at Ukraine because they're not in NATO and not try to take the other Warsaw pact nations that were lost when the USSR fell. Just like Hitler stopped at the Sudentenland. So just to be clear, should Putin strike out on Poland, where this military aid is coming from, you'll support invocation of Article 5.

You're the one claiming that Ukraine is a den of Nazis. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

What are you afraid of? Putin has proven he can't conduct a proper military exercise. If he decides to use Nuclear weapons in desperation, the blame will fall squarely on him and not NATO for supporting his opponent with military aid. Had the USSR nuked Afghanistan for their failure in the 80's should the US be blamed because they supported the Mujahideen with military aid?

And forgive me, but I don't think your opinion would change if Hungary or Poland were in Putin's sights next. Which is what Do you have no concept of how the West appeased Hitler until he had the power to invade and take control of all of Western Europe. Putin's power grab here uses the same justifications as Hitler did in the 1930's

You introduced your family into this thread. No one wants to talk about your wife and her struggle with Cancer. This is a thread about the War in Ukraine.

That maybe the most sensible thing you've said in this thread. Putin has utterly failed his people by clinging to the old ideals of the USSR.

I'm starting to wonder if said member is a bot. That seems like a stock response. Ya gits wut ya pays fer. is another one. Who talks like that?

Your position is clear. You don't think any NATO or Western intervention is warranted. But by taking that position, you also take the position that Putin should be allowed to annex Ukraine without any assistance from the West. So you "may" not specifically support Putin, but you certain support the idea that he should be appeased on his goals here.

Good planning would allow Putin to run rough-shot on an independent nation.

I don't either. I've developed a keen interest in this conflict as of late. It's a great underdog story that Ukraine is fighting back against tyranny. I really want to see what the other side of the debate has to say to disagree with such an inspiring story. Those people would prefer to insult others than conduct an honest debate.

So you're not fond of Trump? I think your wife should be commended sticking with such a pro-fascist like she has.

How does the bolded text have anything to do with Ukraine? You were responding to my point that both Poland and East Germany were under Russian Influence, like Ukraine during the Cold War. Should the west stay out of Poland and East Germany's business should Russia escalate this conflict further? Because that's the implications of just allowing Ukraine to be taken over by Putin. That it's his right because he's trying to re-unite the USSR.

You suggested that East Germany wants to separate from Germany again. Which would mean what exactly?

Excellent debate tactic, bring your wife into the equation. ?

It's against forum rules to insult other people. So you support East Germany returning to Russia? Should an invasion of Germany be responded to by NATO member nations?