angrypenguin

Interesting post this AM. http://www.tooclosetocall.ca/2018/06/with-3-days-to-go-in-ontario-election.html CBC poll tracker has not updated for today yet.

CBC poll tracker just added Pollara/Maclean data poll. ->this last one is significant due to methodologies used. 79.3% Probability of the Progressive Conservatives winning a majority 7.5% Probability of the Progressive Conservatives winning the most seats but not a majority 4.2% Probability of the NDP winning the most seats but not a majority 8.2% Probability of the NDP winning a majority

You're completely missing the original argument here and bringing in additional variables that bear no relevance to the topic at hand.

My apologies. I posted the info above in the wrong thread. This is where I should have posted it https://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/27637-ontario-poll-tracker/?page=2 To answer your question though, it's from the CBC poll tracker.

New Abacus polling data just in and added to the CBC poll tracking info. As per the CBC poll tracker: New results 77.1% Probability of the Progressive Conservatives winning a majority 8.0% Probability of the Progressive Conservatives winning the most seats but not a majority 9.8% Probability of the NDP winning a majority 4.5% Probability of the NDP winning the most seats but not a majority

New Abacus polling data just in New results 77.1% Probability of the Progressive Conservatives winning a majority 8.0% Probability of the Progressive Conservatives winning the most seats but not a majority 9.8% Probability of the NDP winning a majority 4.5% Probability of the NDP winning the most seats but not a majority

And what if they do lose party status? What does that mean? I genuinely don't know.

How's that working for Alberta? PS IMHO I would be fine with a center right party that is NOT for tax cuts, but is for cutting social services or spending. Something has got to give.

Umm, this already happens today. If only you worked in any IT field, you would know that almost everything about you and data collected from you is parsed, processed, and used either against you or "for you" (or technically for the company so they can sell more useless shit to get more money from you).

Italy and Greece is HARDLY fiscally responsible, and is hardly "so called" "right wing".

Go read up on historical events.

Some interesting videos here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBgGjoGof6A

Ladies and gentlemen, http://www.tooclosetocall.ca/2018/06/is-ndp-vote-really-that-inefficient.html Thoughts on this post?

If I had it my way I would rather vote for a party that is for running a surplus government and thus takes thus surplus and pays down our debt. If that means taxes have to remain the same while gutting social services, I'm fine with that. If that means taxes can be decreased while gutting more social services, I'm fine with that. And before the left crucifies me for gutting social services, there are some social services I'm fine with gutting and some that I'm not fine with. E.g. Gutting healthcare - not a good idea. Gutting guaranteed income and paying for healthcare services for illegal aliens -yup, CUT. Gutting education - no, not for that. Gutting IVF and prescription drugs, especially for those who already have an insurance plan through their employer that covers their kids - WOW, am I for gutting that BAD! That's so wrong that government money is going to pay for drugs for kids whose parents have insurance plans that cover them.

There's a reason why people in my organization have openly started to rebel against this sexism. Equality for opportunity - great! I support this. Equality of outcome? Bullshit, that's sexist. Don't you ever tell me to hire a woman because she's a woman. That's sexist against men.

OUCH!

BAHAHAHAH! You do realize that the brain drain has been alive and well and has actually gotten worse in the last 10 years? Problem with socialism is you run out of other people's money at one point. And with respect to large/medium businesses in Canada that pay no taxes? Please, if you're going to spit shit there's no point in having a discussion. You and I full well know what the tax rates are for both businesses in Canada and in the US. Stop spinning shit - you're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

Le big sigh. What is it with people like you completely missing the fact that the ONLY reason he took Canada into a deficit was because the Left called for this, and also because after the G7 (or 8) summit all of the countries agreed to spend big on infrastructure as you know, we were in the biggest financial meltdown of our lives? When people like you miss such big facts it's almost pointless to go into said debate with you.

Something Trudeau and most Canadians don't understand. We're a pretty useless country when it comes to the US needing us.

Right from the get go, free trade has driven down the price of basically everything we buy in life. Protectionism hurts consumers, and while you can make an argument with respect to how trade impacts certain industries, from a consumer standpoint, we're almost basically always going to win from free trade.

I actually don't disagree with much of what you have posted, but please keep in mind my statements were forward looking over the next 70-80 years. They weren't really referencing what today's world is with respect to technology disrupting our lives. Voice assistants still are close to useless, although the real only disruptor that has had a significant affect on all of our lives, whether or not people know, is cloud computing. Any organization that has IT in it is affected, and cloud computing runs most of what we use on a day to day basis, whether or not that'd be Netflix, Xbox Live/Playstation cloud or whatever it's called, online banking etc. But yet still, this is in the infancy of affecting our lives.

I never ever got comments like this one. It makes 0 sense. NDP - running a deficit, seemingly no one cares Liberals - running a deficit, seemingly no one cares PCs - will be most likely running a deficit, yet those who support the NDP/Liberals LOVE chomping at the bits here when the PCs run a deficit.

Latest poll tracker update including most recent EKOS poll. PC - 37.2% NDP 37.1% Probability of winning 85.4% Probability of the Progressive Conservatives winning a majority 5.0% Probability of the Progressive Conservatives winning the most seats but not a majority 6.3% Probability of the NDP winning a majority 2.8% Probability of the NDP winning the most seats but not a majority

Ok so on the Forum poll, I do sort of agree with BB here. Take a look at the last Forum poll which showed a LARGE lead with the NDP versus all of the other polls. For whatever reason, including with the last Federal election, Forum seems to be quite off the mark. When it was in the PCs favor with respect to the last Federal election, I was pointing to that and my hopes were high as a result, but it turns out the polling data was not consistent with the final election. I'm not sure if there are other reasons as to why BB is discounting the Forum poll, but there was a huge swing in results from the last Forum poll versus the more recent one. With #1, I can see Grenier and BB's approach as both valid in their own way. While we are all digesting news as quickly as humanly possible and making up our minds, there is usually a lag with most voters who barely follow elections. Because of that lag, I would seem to agree with BB on this one. You're assuming (And Grenier is assuming) that voters are aware of political news as soon as they come out (within 24 hours). I'm not so sure that's right, but as I have mentioned, we'll see who is more accurate on election day!

Hope you sleep better tonight. Maybe the happiness fairy will drop by and give you a kiss on the cheek.