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There is no magical number but at current 81% we are seeing hundreds of infections every day in Ontario close to 96% of which is among unvaccinated people and less than 0.7% among fully vaccinated people. But for Delta variant we need a higher percent of entire population (about 80%) or at least 90% of eligible people. The higher the better. At 90% hopefully we achieve herd immunity but even if we don't, 96% of 10% will not be large enough to force lockdowns and loss of jobs and distruptions to our normal lives for rest of us.

Also some may carry the ideology of forcing their beliefs upon others by any means. Even when they are a small minority they seems to cause a lot of problems. Look at France or Sweden as just two examples. There is not even one democratic muslim country on this planet and there is a reason for that. Feel sorry for those born muslim non-believers who are stuck there for good as a result.

That is your definition of democracy. Citizens can do what they want and exercise the rights they don't have. There is a red line in any real democracy and the red line is crossed when other people's lives are endangered and that is where actions like drunk driving, public smoking and covid vaccination fall and cross the red line. Examples are Like freedom of speech is important part of democracy but red line is crossed when you invoke people to attack and kill certain groups or minorities. The right to drink is valid as long as you don't drive and endanger other people, The right to smoke also is preserved as long as you don't smoke in public causing harm to others. The right to not vaccine is also preserved as long as you don't leave home and endanger other people,

That 80% of eligible people is not enough to create herd immunity (we need 90% of eligible people) so the pandemic will be back full force in the fall mostly among unvaccinated and the unvaccinated people are responsible for that so likely government will impose lockdowns again as hospitalizations will rise again and health care system will be overwhelmed, lockdowns will be affecting everyone including me and you. Why should I restrict myself because some selfish people in the name of democracy refused to get the vaccine. I will not and if I catch the virus I will likely have mild symptoms because I am fully vaccinated. I will continue to go to public places and if any unvaccinated catch it then lit it be. It was a democracy and he/she exercised his/her rights to die.

My previous post clearly explains the whatever action that endangers the safety of innocent bystanders should be banned and that is to protect the innocents from being harmed. That is the fundamental of democracy not dictatorship. Democracy does not mean citizens can do whatever they want or exercise the rights they don't have like endangering other people.

If you are not vaccinated similarly you pose a threat to others as the chances you are infected is much higher than vaccinated ones not to mention mutations. When driving anyone poses a threat as many drivers have killed in accidents while sober however, the chances to kill in accidents increases substantially when drunk. In this case too vaccinated people can transmit the virus too but those not vaccinated have a substantial increase in risk of transmission as well as getting sick. They are very similar.

Why are you distorting facts. Of course they can drink on arrival. No one said drinking should be banned. This is not some middle eastern idiotic republic where they ban alcohol. But if they drink upon arrival then afterwards they must not drive under influence because their driving is impaired and cars become a weapon to kill so they endanger other people's lives and hence drunk driving is banned. AGAIN I AM ASKING IF YOU ARE AGAINST A BAN ON DRINKING AND DRIVING WHILE UNDER INFLUENCE???

Answer this, Are you saying that drunk driving should be allowed and making it illegal is dictatorship??

Yes it shows if women are given equal opportunities then they can achieve a lot more for the nation and their country and Canada is a good example of that. This achievement goes to the black hearts and retarded brains of those dirty bearded sub humans around the world especially in Middle East who as leaders or individuals are suppressing women's rights and opposing women's equality.

It has been already established that drunk driving, smoking in public and overwhelming infections in unvaccinated and virus mutations , the rest has yet to be established. It is like you say who decides that murder and robbery is wrong!!!!

Anti-vaxxer who encouraged others of not getting the vaccines died of Covid. https://www.wionews.com/world/radio-host-and-anti-vaxxer-dick-farrel-dies-of-covid-urges-friends-to-get-vaccinated-before-death-404093 Although he had urged people to not get vaccinated, even in the month of June, after getting infected by the deadly coronavirus, he apparently called his close friends and requested them to get vaccinated against coronavirus as soon as possible.

The bound and barriers are very clear and that is WHEN YOUR ACTION ENDANGER OTHER PEOPLE'S HEALTH AND LIVES then we need action from law makers and legislators to push or force those selfish people who may drive drunk or smoke in public to stop or refuse life saving )lives of others) vaccinations to get vaccinated.

Canadian women once again are the pride of all Canadians, They won 18 of the 24 Olympic medals Canada won.

Unfortunately we all pay the price for their selfish choice. The vaccinated people can still get it from them and even die even though it will be very rare (thanks to vaccines) but it can happen especially those vaccinated who are immune compromised. And in addition, hospitalization will go up again and provincial governments may have to impose lockdowns again and we lose our normal lives again and will be locked in our homes again not to mention the economy will take a dive again and many of us will lose our jobs again. Not to mention a vaccine resistant mutation may arrive again as the unvaccinated people will allow the virus to thrive and mutate in their bodies. Public health and health of everyone supersedes selfish people who think they have a right which they do not have!. That is why we banned drunk driving and public smoking as for same reasons governments should find the balls to make vaccination mandatory or a ban on unvaccinated people to leave home and endanger others.

That is not true. If everyone (or over 96%) is vaccinated then herd immunity will be achieved and end the pandemic.

It is propaganda now? I thought it is government conspiracy to plant some kind of microchips or something on all of us!!!!

Majority of Canadians support mandatory Covid vaccination. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/majority-of-canadians-support-mandatory-vaccinations-nanos-survey-1.5536106 Good for Canada which is unique to have some 75% very wise people.

No YOU reported it wrong as usual. The WHO reported 1.5 million deaths for the entire planet not just America.

Women are both more emotional and logical. They mature up much faster and make less mistakes in life.

No they help everyone. By making the upper class to pay for services in a private system, there will be more, better quality and faster services for the lower middle incomers who will use public health.

I am saying that in many other cases (other than strength) they are superior. Strength alone don't bring superiority ( gorilla has strength too but not superior to humans). Women in general having qualities like having bigger hearts, wiser and more logical in decision making (men in general are more stubborn making wrong decisions), having softer and more beautiful bodies, coming to age faster (a 19 year old woman is more mature whereas most 19 year old men are still boys) not to mention they are sources of life. These facts go to the hearts of any idiotic stupid religion or ideology or persons which may consider women as inferior or second class or try to justify suppressing women.

I told you. They don't have the balls to do the right thing. The socialists, NDP and even opportunist Conservatives will attack them crying foul.

I have said it before. We need private health care alongside the public one that we have. This way those who choose will pay for their services like tests and surgeries and hence reduce the burden on public health and thus improving public health care system in Canada. It will be a win-win situation. Those who can afford it will pay and get a better and faster service and those who can't afford to pay will still get a better and faster service as demand for public system will be reduced. I don't understand the mentality of support for having a public health only that all political parties are supporting. No party has the ball to do the right thing and allow private health care to thrive in Canada and everyone wins.

Strangely I wasn't able to find a Sport's section to post this so I decided to post it here (moderators can move the thread if there is one and I was blind) but it is a very important topic that must not be missed because our Canadian women made the entire Canada proud and proved once more that Canada is a country where women are thriving because they enjoy equality and respect and make us all proud to be in this Country. https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/summer/soccer/womens-soccer-canada-sweden-gold-medal-aug-6-1.6131828 A good punch into the dirty likely bearded faces of those brain-retard idiots anywhere in the world who may believe or argue against women's equality .

Why you are inventing ridiculous statistics!!!! You only discredit yourself with such lies and inflated figures. The latest available statistics in America is 2018 for tuberculosis and shows only 542 deaths. https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/factsheets/statistics/tbtrends.htm