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Wonder if the OP had a hand in leading to this! WWWTT

Section 2(d) of the charter clearly states freedom of association. It must be established first if these alleged guests made political donations, and then, so what? Keep in mind cybercoma that I am in part playing the devil's advocate here. I have seen this conflict in the NDP as well, or lack of at the Ontario provincial level when supporting unions.( but that could all change soon seeing how unions are starting to surge in popularity in Canada!) WWWTT

Sorry but there is a debate. If you choose to not make any contribution then what is your point? To only vent your frustration? And the debate is not about rich people, the debate is about the incredibly grotesque amount that they are rich by. Seeing how much Bill Gates contributes to charities is proof that he is concerned about his image. No sarcasm needed! WWWTT

Cheap shot there buddy. But anyways, if the beneficiaries are only guests, then it's hard to pin any conflict of interest on anyone. I personally got sick of the whole political sub culture that revolves around soliciting political donations. Something has got to change with that. In the meantime I wouldn't put any faith in the conservatives or liberals changing this since they created the system we have now. WWWTT

Lets see how long you stick to your guns on that one. Ok then, you went 1hr 28 minutes. The thread is about how ironic that our world has become too top heavy.(or is my interpretation) You still have made no argument to support how (if possible) such an arrangement is sustainable. Very weak debating style in my opinion. WWWTT

Go back and read that sentence. If Natives are legally entitled to collect then why don't they need to work? Why is there a design for natives to not work? WWWTT

I agree with Jacee, this is a racist comment laced with ignorance. WWWTT

Because maintenance is much easier. And when the power is on, mobility is much better! Also many condos are located centrally near amenities. WWWTT

Still under RCMP investigation. WWWTT

So since he was waiting for a court ruling, he was forced to use the senate to solicit political contributions! Don't try to create a bill to start addressing any issues with the senate. Let the court deal with it. Unless of course it's about jail times for some offenders. Don't need court approval for passing unconstitutional laws then. So where's the consistency? As far as JT, more smoke and mirrors. WWWTT

In the meantime he has no real interest in doing anything but using the senate for his only political gain! See Duffy and Wallin. Nice try to deflect, I guess you forgot about all that stuff! WWWTT

I don't think that the NDP claimed that they would unilaterally abolish the senate, only work to abolishing. Big difference between trying and talking. Have any links about conservative bills in parliament that do such? WWWTT

Nope sorry, already have made my point that this Gates character is not worth the money. He is taking advantage of laws that have not yet evolved to encompass the reality. WWWTT

You mean the capital that he extracted from the working class actually helps the world??? You ever try to go into any depth to explain your comments? Or will you just move on to another rambling incoherent comment in an attempt to deflect from the first? WWWTT

Ya actually the NDP have been talking about abolishing the senate decades ago, not a new thing. But ya you're right about one thing. Senate change is new for a conservative/liberal! Especially now that the NDP have ripped Harper apart over Duffly and Wallin! WWWTT

I believe that they didn't see the evidence, or refuse to. You pick! It is very clear that no one is worth that staggering amount of wealth. I can see 10 or 20 bill. but 70-80???? Cmon, that's just screaming that there's something wrong with the system! WWWTT

LOL man that's freakin hilarious!!! From one troll to another!!! I'm starting to believe you really believe the Bill Gates does the world a service BS. You do, I honestly believe you do! Here's the link for you to savour and enjoy! http://ca.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0LEVjxxNulSAU8ARBkXFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTBybnV2cXQwBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMgRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/SIG=140e2apek/EXP=1391044337/**http%3a//arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/08/bill-gates-still-helping-known-patent-trolls-obtain-more-patents/ WWWTT

You forgot one PIK Harper was also the best at using the senate to raise political contributions for the conservative party!!!! Harper also used the biggest whip on the senate!!! Oh sorry, that's two. WWWTT

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How about when they get elected to sit in the house??? Don't need a majority to sit in the house. Or maybe you don't understand how the Canadian parliamentary system works? You pick which it is. But hey, lets look at Justin's history of actually trying this senate reform thing shall we http://craigscott.ndp.ca/trudeau-s-desperate-ploy-to-save-the-sinking-senate-ship Craig Scott is a constitutional lawyer and NDP MP from Toronto Danforth. He won the seat in a bi election after Layton died. I have had debates with Craig on this issue. WWWTT

I hope you enjoyed swallowing that huge load of bunk! Provide the link or keep swallowing! WWWTT

That's all good advise Army guy, I can't debate you on any of these because I have to agree with everything. My concern is the governments focus and direction of our military and our police forces across Canada. I believe it should change to reflect the reality that as Canadians, we face a much greater threat to a domestic weather anomaly or earthquake/tsunami/flood, etc as opposed to an military threat from Iran or the next alleged threat the government implies that we have. WWWTT

I agree. I also believe that this fact is part of the reason why China has a wildly successful economy! One political party (no partisanship) free of elections outside the party,without susceptible to corrupt influence has allowed this socialist peoples paradise the policy to become the soon #1 world economic power. I wonder how many of those top 85 are Chinese nationals? Hmmm, lets take a look shall we. http://ca.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0LEViZLXehSyksA0EoXFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMG04Z2o2BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/SIG=11ntg3gk0/EXP=1390988747/**http%3a//www.forbes.com/billionaires/ WWWTT

Haven't followed this story much. but I believe that one of the criticisms about it is the lack of western media attention! WWWTT