GWiz

Who are we gonna fight? Where are we gonna fight them? Please be specific... What are THEIR stealth capabilities?

You, hopefully are aware that, as you say, the Media plays a big part in perception... When the media reports a "Another NATO soldier died in Khandahar" they make it sound like the death occured in a city not out in some no-man's land because you had to go see some village elder... What's more, when Khandahar and NATO (at least before the "surge") were mentioned together every Canadian knew it was another Canadian soldier that was killed... As you know from my previous posts I strongly support the "troops", but unlike you, I no longer support the mission, in whatever form that mission takes... I think the majority of Canadians feel exactly as I do about that... It's simply taken too long to this point and if ordinary Afghanis haven't figured out that they're better off NOW (10 years later) than when you went in, aren't helping and protecting YOU, with pitchforks if necessary and certainly with information, against the Taliban, nothing will change... Nuff said...

I like that... Let's start digging... This thread sure has a LOT of UPS and DOWNS on it, eh... ps - I'm not sold on stealth either, especially not as an expensive trade off of what Canada truly NEEDS...

No criticism intended... Just my viewpoint... My view is that Newton's 3 Laws of motion apply very well to the political and social interactions between and within countries... Nothing done stays static in physics or politics... You are of course free to feel differently on that subject or any other...

Of course, the link was on my post, but it still wasn't on the list... GD (UK) was, GD (Sweden) was, GD (Switzerland) was, and more, but not GD (Canada), why not? Could it be we are not the "big player" in Defence Contracting you're trying to make Canada out to be? Sorry, nice try, but no cigar (Cuban or otherwise)... GENERAL DYNAMICS Please refer to the list below to reach one of our business units. Corporate Headquarters General Dynamics 2941 Fairview Park Drive, Suite 100 Falls Church, Virginia 22042-4513 Main Number: (703) 876-3000 Fax Number: (703) 876-3125 Please note that General Dynamics (Canada) is not mentioned on the list... General Dynamics (Canada) Core to Edge As a division of the General Dynamics Corporation, our customers have access to an unparalleled breadth and depth of GD-family technology, and benefit from the corporate strength of more than 83,000 people worldwide.

Nope, nothing "specific"... My meaning was more that your comments didn't allow for the eb and flow of political tides in the USA and all other countries involved...

1. But, I did forget to thank you for your strong support of Canadian (even if they're only a minor Subsidiary of a U.S. Mega Corp.) industry... A significant change on your part that I welcomely acknowledge... It's truly nice to know that what Canada does matters so much to you...

Excuse me? Are you not aware what the title of this thread is? I was not aware that Minnesota (MN) had "LIberals" as you describe... If by some chance you are refering to Manitoba (MB) then let me be the first to inform you that Jon Gerrard has OPENLY and PUBLICLY both SUPPORTED and CRITICIZED both the NDP and PC Parties of Manitoba... So NO, absolutly no hypocricy of any kind in what I posted... Just the FACTS as always... However, speaking of hypocricy, have YOU ever looked at yourself in a mirror? Perhaps not, considering what you'd be forced to see...

Sorry, nice try, but no cigar (Cuban or otherwise)... GENERAL DYNAMICS Please refer to the list below to reach one of our business units. Corporate Headquarters General Dynamics 2941 Fairview Park Drive, Suite 100 Falls Church, Virginia 22042-4513 Main Number: (703) 876-3000 Fax Number: (703) 876-3125 Please note that General Dynamics (Canada) is not mentioned on the list... General Dynamics (Canada) Core to Edge As a division of the General Dynamics Corporation, our customers have access to an unparalleled breadth and depth of GD-family technology, and benefit from the corporate strength of more than 83,000 people worldwide.

Hmmm, painted with a somewhat broad brush stroke that didn't quite get into all the corners, but essentially a fairly accurate analysis...

Gotta disagree somewhat... Planes can both spot and prevent IED placements in areas where troops have to move... It's not having enough air presence in Afghanistan that is at least part of the problem... U.S. troops move around a lot more than Canadian troops by helicopter and have a lot more air cover than our troops, it does keep them somewhat safer... Canada's per capita casualties in Afghanistan are unacceptable at around 10%... Part of that reason is inadequate air cover and air transport...

Man-oh-man I wish they had that applause emoticon here... VERY pleased to meet you indeed... I'm the/a "newbie" here and I certainly appreciate a well written post solely on it's merits, regardless of any political viewpoint, which I may or may not share... Well done... I applaud you...

Ummm, fyi, that's called BLACKMAIL, which is illegal in Canada, I guess you're saying Jack Layton should be arrested...

Sonny, don't go there, you've been warned... You're a selfish bastard aren't you? Throw older people under the bus so you can benefit, nice touch for an NDPer...

Common now, there's support protests happening everywhere around the world, Canada and Canadians should be different? Get real!

You forgot to address age? Exactly! A poor person would be unable to top up his/her CCP contribution... A richer person would have absolutely no problem topping up his/her CCP contibutions... Thereby the richer person would be profiting from the ability to do so with a higher CPP payout... Thanks for agreeing with me...

I FULLY understand your one word answer... You are an excellent communicator...

Well now, let's be realistic here, if it was the CONSERVATIVES that WANTED an ELECTION they'd simply say NO to any "deals" with the NDP and/or BLOC, right? There's no way that either the NDP or BLOC would keep the Harper Gov. in power without being paid off, is there?

Rule # 1. If you EVER again want me too respond to any of your posts, respond to ALL of my post and don't "cut out" the things you have no answer for... ------------------------------- You Sir, or kid, whichever the case may be, have successfully removed all doubt... I have little to no interest in playing your childish games... Morons and fools don't interest me at all... See you around...

'Tis so! 'Tis so! AGAIN!

Keep that kind of talk up and we'll end up with a Conservative majority which NOBODY wants... Why are you trying to help Harper? I thought you were a staunch NDPer, aren't you?

Wouldn't that make it more about age and ability to contribute than choice? Sounds like a very Conservative idea to me... The richer get richer, the poor get poorer method...

Hmmm, removing all doubt, are you? "The Difference between Communism and Socialism" Read it and weep... - A good example that explains the exact relationship between "communism" and "socialism" would be to examine the two terms "Catholic" and "Christian". Obviously, though they share a relationship, they are not interchangeable. You could for example, say that the Pope is a "Christian". But you could not say that Billy Graham is a "Catholic". Why? The two share certain basic beliefs, but differ upon certain specific issues. Fundamentally, Christians and Catholics believe in things like an all-powerful God, the authenticity of the Bible, and the divine resurrection of Jesus Christ. But many Christians would disagree with infant baptisms, the authority of priests to absolve sins, and the direct praying to saints - all things that are part of Catholicism. So while all Catholics are Christians, not all Christians are Catholics. Just as "Catholic" is a narrower and more specific definition of "Christian", "communism" is a narrower and more specific definition of "socialism". - Hitler a "socialist"! Communism vs Fascism - Communism stands for a stateless society where all are equal. No one is rich or poor in a communist system. In Communism, it is the community that holds the production and the major resources. On the other hand, Fascism pertains to state and it considers state on top of everything. In fascism the state is all embracing. For the fascists, no human values exist outside the state. Fascism believes that everything is within the State and nothing is above the State or outside the State or against the State. Fascism believes in nationalism (includes economic nationalism), corporatism (includes economic planning), militarism and totalitarianism (dictatorship and social interventionism). The Communists think globally where as the Fascists think only in a national level. - So! As any intelligent person can clearly see the United States, being a Republic, is 100 X closer to becoming (read "Tea Party Conservatives") a Fascist State than they ever were to becoming a Communist State... Canada and many other nations like Sweden and the United States, are limited Social Democracies and as such far removed from ever becoming either because their peoples, their "society", controls the state... Incidently, I DO know all about it, and now, depending on your ability and willingness to READ, do you... Oh, and thank you for PROVING what I say about WORDS as well.... 2-4-1, nice...

Found it! We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Preamble --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sorry, you missed it by a mile...