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  1. 12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

    Not really. There are always 1diots out there that turn something obvious into a contentious issue. People argue over stamp collecting.

    Did you look at my links? I haven’t examined the primary sources but the people quoted have a certain credibility in this area, e.g. Dwight Eisenhower. Even without their compelling testimony, it seems a little rash to discount the situation that Japan found itself in which was quite like Nazi Germany’s before it surrendered - utterly ruined and facing the imminent possibility of being overrun by Stalin and his hordes. That would bring the thought of compromise to the top of anybody’s agenda. 
     

     

  2. 35 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

    And?  is it ok to call black people "n*ggers'  because the donated to obama?  Get your head out of your ass.  Why is the left always PRO racism and bigotry as long as it's their side doing it?

     

    And i'm sure you're aware "the benjamins" is an anti jewish slur as has been noted many times, but you use it anyway to describe the motives of the left - which is a perfect example. I rest my case.

    I’m afraid these are the facts. I’m not calling anybody names, just pointing to a real money trail. BTW hundred dollar bills are called Benjamins because Mr. Franklin’s face appears on them. That figure of speech happens with other dollar denominations too. 

  3. On 11/5/2023 at 2:40 AM, CdnFox said:

    Nagasaki and hiroshima killed 200k or there abouts but it ended a war that  would have lead to millions more deaths. Mission accomplished.

    There’s still considerable debate about that claim:

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    In July 1946 the US Strategic Bombing Survey had concluded that – thanks to the destruction of its economy by conventional bombing and a comprehensive blockade – ‘in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped.’ 
     

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    The message that the bomb had saved a million American lives, in the words of the historian Paul Ham, ‘put the American mind at ease, [and] slipped into folklore’. 
     

     

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     ‘The use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan,’ Admiral William Leahy, wartime chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, wrote in his 1950 memoir. ‘The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender.’ Eisenhower later said it had been his belief at the time ‘that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary’. At one time or another almost all the senior American commanders in the Pacific war voiced similar sentiments. Among them was Carter Clarke, a former brigadier general who declared to an interviewer in 1959 that ‘when we didn’t need to do it, and we knew we didn’t need to do it ... we used [Hiroshima and Nagasaki] as an experiment for two atomic bombs.’ 

    https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v45/n22/andrew-cockburn/big-six-v.-little-boy

    https://www.raabcollection.com/presidential-autographs/eisenhower-nuclear

  4. On 11/1/2023 at 10:32 PM, CdnFox said:

    Sometimes it's not sublte at all like when an actual democratic politician talks about how it's "all about the benjamins" or the like.

    In fairness, a lot of Benjamins were spent by AIPAC trying to oust Omar and others like her in 2022 and probably more will be spent next time:

    https://jewishinsider.com/2022/09/don-samuels-ilhan-omar-united-democracy-project-filing/

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    Early last month, United Democracy Project, a super PAC affiliated with AIPAC, quietly contributed $350,000 to a separate group created to boost a top Democratic primary challenger to Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) in Minnesota’s 5th Congressional District, new filings from the Federal Election Commission revealed on Tuesday.

    The considerable investment, which had not previously been disclosed, adds some after-the-fact intrigue to the recent House race in Minneapolis, the outcome of which was much closer than political observers had expected. Omar, a two-term progressive Democrat, eked out a surprisingly narrow victory over her moderate rival, Don Samuels, a former city councilman who lost by just 2,500 votes.

    It’s not all about the Benjamins but keep an eye on them all the same. 

  5. On 11/5/2023 at 6:47 PM, CdnFox said:

    It just seemed oddly specific.  "They could be sent to the desert!! Or the sea!! Or 145B Blakely Crescent in Dublin, ring twice before entering!"

    It’s because the Irish government has long supported the Palestinian cause. The conflict became a proxy for the Northern Irish one, with Protestants supporting Israel and Catholics Palestine. 

  6. On 8/24/2023 at 4:43 PM, WestCanMan said:

    I didn't watch the debate last night and the media accounts vary widely. Some say Vikek was the man, and some say he was surprisingly bitter and confrontational. 

    I was hoping for DeSantis to do well, because I still think that he has the best chance of beating Trump and winning the general election, but apparently he was awkward and didn't do a good job of answering the questions posed to him.

    By all accounts Haley did well, but I don't think she can become a major player. 

    Pence is a bit of a joke imo, he's so boring that Americans will start cheering for Russia if he wins. 

    Who do you guys think did well last night? 

     

    I've never seen a debate that was well-moderated. Even in Canada. Debates are always a bit of a joke. 

     

    This was a much better debate than the last one. Cross-talk was minimal so you could actually hear what people were saying. Now I may be a little biased here…but in my lefty opinion Vivek was both ridiculous and undignified, throwing insults hither and yon all night. Describing Zelensky as a Nazi was probably the lowest point but it’s hard to say. He also mentioned the TikTok use of Haley’s daughter (she called him ‘scum’ in return), bizarrely described Biden as “a puppet of the managerial class”, the sort of line you might hear at the weekly meeting of the local Trotskyist collective, and proposed a northern wall to keep all those Canadian criminals out. He comes across as a shock jock looking for bad publicity if he can’t get the good stuff. There’s no question he’s an entertaining speaker but the job still requires a little more dignity than he exhibits. The other two also-rans, Christie and Scott, seemed resigned to their fate and just went through the motions. By contrast, Haley and DeSantis performed well although Haley came across better. She’s more likeable. DeSantis might have benefited from teaching a bit of drama in his youth. His vocal range is restricted and he doesn’t move his body enough. On the content side, there’s no question he’s well-informed. Anyway, they remain the pair behind Trump and are both comfortable in this format. At the moment, I can’t see these debates changing the race significantly, at least until the number of participants is reduced. 

     

     

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  7. On 9/8/2023 at 11:45 PM, WestCanMan said:

    Sadly about 80% of politics is charisma. 

    Gavin Newsom has a good chance of becoming president one day just because he has good hair, a nice grille, he looks good in a suit, and he slithers calmly with a winning smile on his face. 

    Some content is still required and his is California. Which is a problem. Few dream of going there any more. 

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  8. Who knows what will happen. The Russians have sheer numbers on their side. They’d be better off just hanging on to what they have - their attacks are disasters. The Ukrainians have the advantage of US and European equipment and superior morale but their democratic allies are less tolerant of war than the dictatorship they face. It’s remarkable that we are even talking about a front in Eastern Ukraine rather than a guerilla war in a Russian-occupied country. Shows how far Russia has fallen. 

  9. Very generally speaking, Sikhs tend to be high achievers and they have a fondness for careers in the security forces that is no longer widespread. Overall, they are a big plus. The Khalistan thing, though, should have been nipped in the bud. Oddly enough, I don’t think it’s as big an issue here as it was decades ago but India is looking for trouble these days. 

  10. Just to return to the original post, yes, we really need to think about whom we support in this world. Your enemy’s enemy is not always your friend and those who call you names on Twitter aren’t really in the same league as gentlemen who will happily launch you from rooftops because of who you are. We don’t need more religious bigotry, or clerics who think they have a mandate from the man upstairs to run countries. Secular social democracy is the best form of government in the world. Any country that has it should hang onto it for dear life. 

  11. 13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

    That doesnt' really make sense.  Are you asking if in my opinion there is no such thing as palestinian settlements? Are you asking if i think gaza is on israeli 'land'?   Maybe instead of useless genocide phrases just say what you're trying to ask?

    I understand the expression causes offence and I have never used it myself. Here is some more background on it and how it is perceived by different people:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/09/us/politics/river-to-the-sea-israel-gaza-palestinians.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

    Many insurgencies have similar sayings and songs. In Ireland, for example, people talk of Four Green Fields, A Nation Once Again, Our Day Will Come. These are perceived very differently by the other, Protestant, side in Northern Ireland. 

  12. Vivek has a plan to build a big, beautiful wall on America’s northern border. That noise you hear is Canadian feathers being ruffled:

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    …one Republican presidential hopeful, Vivek Ramaswamy, wants to take the idea even further. His proposal: a wall along the 5,500 mile long (8,900km) US-Canada frontier. 

    At Wednesday's primary debate in Miami, the 38-year-old candidate argued that enough fentanyl crossed the border last year to "kill three million Americans".

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    Jason Kenney, a former Alberta Premier and MP who also served as Minister for Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism and later Minister of Defence, said that he sees Mr Ramaswamy's proposal as "completely nuts".

    "Building such a wall is completely, obviously unfeasible," he told the BBC in a statement. "Doing so would likely take decades and cost at least hundreds of billions of dollars".



    As regards stopping the flow of fentanyl into the US, the potential benefits seem fairly modest:

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    But statistics show that the scale of fentanyl trafficking along the US-Canada border - the world's longest - pales in comparison to the US-Mexico border. 

    According to data from US Customs and Border Patrol (CBP), just under two and a half pounds - about a kilogram - of fentanyl were seized at the Canadian border in the 2023 fiscal year. 

     

    The figure represents well under 1% of the 26,718 lbs (12,119kg) of fentanyl seized at the southern border during the same time frame. 

    The previous fiscal year, the figures stood at 14lbs (6.3kg) along the Canadian border, compared to 14,104 lbs (6,397kg) along the US-Mexican border.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67372909

  13. 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

    I'm not sure why we see this both-siderism every time it comes to violent islamic bigotry.

    The population of what's now Pakistan was 20% Hindu and Sikh, now it's 2%.

    The difference was slaughter and expulsion.

    There are tens of thousands of people in our country who will justify their genocidal rage towards Israelis because of almost no one being killed in 1948 and half a million people evacuated, but those people don't think anything of 1.5million people murdered and 10M evacuated just 9 months earlier. It's like saying "I don't like to see people of my own religion lose at card games, but watching people of other religions burn to death is ok." I feel like that's violent bigotry. What about you?

    Ah Jaysus, are you saying that no Muslims were killed during the Partition of British India? That would come as a considerable surprise to many families who mourned them for decades. Why are so many posters unencumbered by facts here? 

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  14. 55 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

    i answer your questions all the time. And again - you answer with more 'whataboutism'.  Guess that proves my point nicely.

    It's not a 'slogan' - it's a statement of intent. It's a declaration that only the death of isreal and it's people is an acceptable end goal. 

    "Just do it" is a slogan. "Melts in your mouth not in your hands" is a slogan. "From the river to the sea" is a  call to genocide.

    Well you spend so much time doing it , i guess it's to be expected that you'd take more of an interest in the term.

    Do you accept that Israel already extends from the river to the sea? Yes or no?

  15. 8 hours ago, reason10 said:

    Israelis have NEVER said anything to that effect, nor have they EVER engaged in genocide.

    You REALLY need to read a history book, son. There is not now nor was there EVER such a country as Palestine. The land currently occupied by Israel (which would probably fit six times in New Jersey) was originally owned by Great Britain. That country gave that small piece of land to Israel, and the rag heads have been trying to take it and kill all Jews ever since.

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    You really need to read something beyond the premasticated pap that is served up for those cheap dentures of yours to gnaw on. Britain didn’t ’own’ the Mandated Territory of Palestine. The intent from the League of Nations mandate was administer the territory until its people could run it themselves. Unfortunately, the open borders policy of the British - yes, think on that for a second - led to an explosion in migrants and the current mess. 

  16. 14 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

    Pakistan kicked out ten million people and butchered 1M of them in 1947 when their nation was formed the same way Israel was. There are no muslims talking about 'a right to return for Sikhs and Hindus'. For them to be feeling a genocidal rage for 'the suffering of the Palestinians', when almost none of them died, is next-level bigotry, and hypocrisy on an unimaginable scale. 

    The slaughter and exodus went both ways across that new border. Millions were driven from their homes. And there are Hindus today in Canada who will make anything Islamophobic said on a campus seem utterly harmless by comparison. 

  17. 7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

    Ahhh whataboutism instead of addressing the question. Classic liberal :) 

    And you didn’t answer mine BTW. Yes, I understand how people can be offended by that slogan and I would never say it myself. But in the end it’s a slogan, not facts on the ground. Palestine does not exist as a state - that is the more offensive thing, I think. Actions matter more than words in my book. 

    And I prefer whataboutery. Whataboutism is such an ugly, clumsy word. It starts and peters out. There’s no rhythm to it. 

     

  18. 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

    From your link:

    I think the ads came from ^^^^^.

    Who cares what actual persons or companies gave the money to them?

    It matters a great deal. We’re talking about holding an election within a political party to unseat a highly popular politician. It is well known that much of AIPAC’s funding, a closely affiliated group, comes from wealthy Republicans. That has no place whatsoever in a Democratic Party election. Just imagine in Canada if Liberal money helped elect Poilievre as leader of his party. 

  19. 2 hours ago, blackbird said:

    Israel is a very tiny piece of land to begin with.  The Arabs who are Muslims make up all the countries surrounding Israel and they cover a vast area.  

    The other thing is many of the Palestinians and the Muslims in surrounding countries have no intention of recognizing Israel's right to exist and are willing to fight against Israel any way possible.  So how would your proposal make any sense?

    How would you divide up an already very small country with people who are intent on eliminating you completely?  Any reduction in the size of Israel would also present a serious security threat because they are already surrounded by many enemies who have huge populations.

    This means your comment about Israel and Palestinians sorting out their problems and agreeing to divide up the land is nonsensical.  It is ignoring the reality of the situation.  It is one of those feel-good meaningless statements.

     

    From that veritable thicket of bald assertions, let me make two points:

    Firstly, forget about the rest of the region. They don’t live there and haven’t lived there. They don’t care about the result. 

    Secondly, not every country is as big as Canada. Take yourself off to an atlas and look at how many countries are smaller than Israel, even without the West Bank, Golan Heights and Gaza. The result may surprise you. 

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