SpankyMcFarland
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On 10/26/2023 at 9:09 PM, WestCanMan said:
Nope.
Hamas:
Intentionally targets women and children.
Hamas intentionally puts women and children in harm's way to protect themselves.
Israel:
Only targets terrorists.
Does everything they can to avoid harming women and children. The only time they get hurt is when Hamas has placed them in the line of fire.
By my logic, decency matters. Intent matters.
I don't understand why you and so many Demonrats feel like burning children and women alive is the right thing to do. I don't know how Hamas has raised so many people to be hateful enough to do that sort of thing.
I condemn Hamas without reservation. However a burnt child looks the same no matter what military conduct brought about that atrocity and there are lots of burnt kids in Gaza today. Determining what collateral damage means and how many innocent victims can be killed for every legitimate target is not a simple affair and we rarely get to see those calculations. If we are ever subjected to aerial bombing ourselves, we may think on these matters a little more closely.
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Leaving aside the ethnic cleansing angle I think Arab states should take as many Palestinians as want to leave Gaza and give them citizenship. It’s their region and their responsibility. Of course, these countries are not famous for welcoming immigrants from nearly anywhere. Israeli American businessman Sheldon Adelson, for example, was famous for being keen on open borders in the US to staff his hotels but equally keen on closed borders for African migrants to Israel.
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It was chilling to see how excited Sunak was to interview Musk.
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3 hours ago, Legato said:
What? Digital Chinese Lanterns?
You may need to get out more and see what is happening in the world these days.
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The day China achieves a critical technological advantage over the rest of world, watch out. It won’t matter where or who are you are, you will be personally affected.
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4 hours ago, CdnFox said:
The more they have, the less likely a break up is. What's the point of breaking up if you already have what you want?
If they were only fighting the federal govt that might make sense but they are not. There’s increasing competition within provinces to be the most shrill voice.
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2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:
The provinces don't have ENOUGH power. More power at the local level is what helps STOP division. Division happens when federal gov'ts try to put one size fits all solutions in place over vast regions against the will of the local people.
The problem is that they always want more, at which point a break-up becomes more likely.
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Canada is becoming difficult to govern. Quebec was always a problem. Now the fissures are really opening up between East and West. I think provincial premiers have too much power in this country.
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Here are Musk and Sunak talking about the future of work.
QuoteRishi Sunak clashed with Elon Musk on the value of having a job, after the tech mogul told him artificial intelligence (AI) would mean people would no longer have to work.
The billionaire caused embarrassment for the PM during a discussion at the end of his AI summit by predicting that the “magic genie” would bring a time when “no job is needed”.
Mr Sunak, under pressure from his own party to get more Britons back into work, asked Mr Musk about “changes in the labour market” – saying the idea of AI stealing jobs was “still a concern”.
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Lawrence Faucette has just died:
https://edition.cnn.com/lawrence-faucette-second-pig-heart-transplant-dies/index.html
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On 10/4/2023 at 2:23 AM, Aristides said:
The Dems just said you created this, we aren't going to help you fix it. Deal with your own trash.
That is standard behaviour in parliamentary democracies and McCarthy made no effort to reach out to the Dems at all.
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14 hours ago, Army Guy said:
Well what would you call it then, how Palestinians tricked most of the free world, into believing their own propaganda...they have had decades to perfect it...
It's not about land , never was about land....it is about eliminating Jews from the area, end of story...
You’re free to dispute any of it with a source of your own, if you think it is one sided....
Literally everything is disputed there. What’s the point?
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57 minutes ago, Nationalist said:
Israel wasted their chance to neutralize Hamas. Now they will be in for a protracted, 2-front war. Not reacting immediately with a bombing that would have eliminated Gaza as a threat, and taken over the strip, has left them vulnerable.
Hamas will be reduced to a minor threat...but it cannot now be completely eliminated.
War and morality do not mix.
They should never have helped get Hamas off the ground in the first place in an effort to divide and weaken the Palestinians. Too clever by half.
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/
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16 minutes ago, Army Guy said:
Palestine was never a state, Palestinian people have always been under others control...just like the Jews, who have lived in the same area as Palestinians for thousands of years, could you please tell me what makes these lands belong to the Palestinians...Jews have a long history tied to the region as long as the Palestinians ..
Germany was nothing but a smoking hole in the ground, with millions of people homeless due to the war, are you suggesting that they add millions to those numbers...UN did look at Madagascar, but that did not pan out...
I guess your and the other are not going to do any research...which is fine, i provided a Israelis/ Palestine history for dummies all you got to do is watch maybe learn something who knows...
Right away I see ‘Palestinian lie’, Palestinians pouring into a city (something tells me Jews won’t be accused of doing that) etc. How old is Sol Stern now? Actually, 88. I’d say he’d be highly offended if anybody called him impartial on the subject.
What I see are two related tribes fighting over land and using all the usual tricks in the book to undermine their opponent’s case. With history, I’m afraid everyone has their own.
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On 10/29/2023 at 5:29 PM, blackbird said:
Canada was once part of the British Empire. It was British North America. Like every other empire in the world, it was conquered and colonized. The British Empire existed around the world and the sun never set on some part of it. Do you think the British asked permission to establish their empire?
Do you think the British should now pay compensation to all the former parts of the colonial empire they once had? Why should Canadians be expected to pay compensation for living on land the natives now claim as their traditional territory which can extend for thousands of square kilometers according to some native groups or hereditary chiefs?
I think you see the connection in your thinking to the middle east. You think because some Palestinians are descendants of previous people who lived on the land, that somehow that now makes it their land and Israel should just surrender to these demands and get out.
You seem to automatically believe if there is a perceived underdog, the stronger country or people should be blamed and made to pay for their wrong. That is very simplistic thinking and is not how the world works. It is a Marxist idea. You want to somehow share everything in the world equally with everyone. You must be thoroughly brainwashed with Marxism. I would think you view the world through the same lens in your own backyard and area. This is true Marxist ideology and is a key part of NDP Socialist thinking or ideology. It is a false god.
That’s a fairly muscular form of Christianity you’re selling there.
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34 minutes ago, CdnFox said:
Sure you can. It's all in how you define crime of course. At the end of the day tho how many gov'ts have actually been haulted up for war crimes in history? not many,.
Are you seriously claiming that no war crimes convictions means no war crimes? You’d make a good defence attorney. When it comes to war crimes, the Americans prefer to investigate themselves with predictably modest results.
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8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:
Trump didn't kill 25,000 terrorists to calm the storm, he just killed Suleimani and a few terrorist leaders, then we heard crickets.
I’m not sure that was a wise precedent to set.
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5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:
Well usually there's at least some evidence of a reason to believe that there was a military target involved. Or that the weapon was accidentally fired or malfunctioned as in the recent hamas missile incident.
But sure - at least until after the war when inspectors can get in it's possible to hit a civvie target and claim it's military.
The best way to avoid that is not to violently brutally start a war with isreal in the first place,
It just happens to be Israel this time but it’s a feature of all wars.
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War and crime go together like love and marriage used to do in the Sinatra song. You can’t have one without the other.
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35 minutes ago, CdnFox said:
I believe they do share target data after the attack. "This was a rocket site" or the like. I mean there's no real way to confirm it and occasionally hamas claims otherwise as in the case of a recent incident near a hospital (not the hamas misfired rocket, a diffferent one ) where isreal says they were targeting a hamas facility and hamas says there was none there
But i believe isreal has responded with details about each attack they've been asked about. I could be wrong but i don't think so.
I don’t they have responded with such details, certainly not always with useful details. Actually, I don’t think they could at the moment, given the thousands of targets. You’d have to concede that it’s really difficult to distinguish an honest mistake from a deliberate assassination of a journalist etc. under these circumstances. A much simpler matter was the killing of journalist Shireen Abu Akleh which the Israelis initially denied before claiming her death was accidental when the evidence became overwhelming. And, of course, it’s not an Israeli-specific thing either. All governments tend to do this.
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37 minutes ago, CdnFox said:
I assume you're not trying to suggest that civvie casualties didn't occur before the advent of air power
No.
37 minutes ago, CdnFox said:In fact it's been a major issue since wars began. And it distinguishes berween when a country kills civvies by accident (or unavoidably) or intent as a primary target.
Does it really? Again we have to take that on trust a lot of the time.
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40 minutes ago, herbie said:
"Collateral damage" isn't a war crime, but hiding your headquarters or ammunition depot under a daycare centre or hospital definitely should be.
Collateral damage is an elastic concept favoured by countries with large air forces. Our perception of it would change markedly if it ever darkened our door.
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18 hours ago, CdnFox said:
I was "fine" with it all along if it's necessary to strike military targets and there's no other way. I've been pretty clear about that. Get between israel and hamas and you're going to get killed, there's no other way. If you can avoid it great but if you can't, you have to do what you have to do in order to defend your people.
What i'm not fine with is deliberately targeting civvies for the sake of it. Which is what hamas does.
It's pretty telling that you can't see the problem with targeting civvies deliberately.
But there is really no mechanism to determine whether the Israelis killed civilians deliberately or otherwise. If nobody from the IDF leaks it then how will we ever know what they were aiming at?
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Israel’s willingness to allow a Palestinian state is an allegation not currently being tested. People like Netanyahu may make ambiguous noises about it in English but have spent their political careers making sure it can never happen. ‘From the river to the sea’ is how the maniacs of Hamas express their intentions; by contrast, ‘From the sea to Area C’ is not an outrageous denial of the possibility of a Palestinian state but a simple description of the current situation where Israel is quietly increasing its control of West Bank territory every day.
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The Dems' Long and Current Ties to Terrorist Orgs and Ant-Semitism
in Federal Politics in the United States
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What are racism and anti-Semitism? Do they preclude ALL hostility to other groups? I don’t think so. Over the past five centuries, many indigenous people would be justified in hating and fearing white people. South Asians in South Africa would have good reasons to resent both the former white govt and the current black one. Similarly, if I was a West Bank Palestinian facing Israeli guns every day at endless checkpoints I don’t think I’d be too keen on those Israelis. By contrast, European anti-Semitism was and is deeply irrational, based as it is on all sorts of delusions about all Jewish people.