JerrySeinfeld

The colts/patriots game is lining up to be something special. Could be the game of the year. I'm pulling for New Orleans in Chicago - and I think they will win. Don't know why, but I'm still not sold on the bears. BTW weren't 3 of the four games this weekend decided in the last second or overtime? can you say EXCITING? The NFL is by far the best pro-sports league on planet earth. Amazing parity, great spectacle, superb athletics, racous fans, brilliant television coverage, breathtaking finishes...WHAT A GAME!!!! Something about Peyton Manning bugs me. His pre-snap antics are a bit much. What is pointing at a defender going to do? Nobody else on the O-Line can see who he's pointing at. Just bark out "mid linebacker possible blitz!" or whatever you have to do. but the pointing and all that other garbage? Showtime for sure. Manning is an AMAZING quarterback but he bugs me. GO PATS! GO 'AIN'TS! (that's what the locals used to call their hapless hometeam)

So you support the Conservatives accepting the science of global warming and moving ahead strongly on it as as issue? No. I OBSERVE a wise campaign strategy: One of Dion's strong suits is environment and he may have been gearing up to make that a major campaign issue. If so, the CPC has stolen his thunder.

I'd like to answer this point by noting it is the same nonsensical bullroar the right wing peddled about Viet Nam. The only Vietnamese fighting in the US are gang members whose parents were welcomed here at the end of the Viet Nam Fiasco. 'Terrorist,' is just the latest right wing bogeyman. The replacement for, the 'Communists,' under our beds in the 50's. It is a pathetic lying effort to peddle fear in exchange for liberties. No. Being "bogged down" and "quagmire" are the latest left wing fodder in an irrational hatred for GW Bush. Iraq and Vietnam have very little in common. Other than the fact that America doesn't have a war attention span much longer than about two years.

I'd like to answer this point by noting it is the same nonsensical bullroar the right wing peddled about Viet Nam. The only Vietnamese fighting in the US are gang members whose parents were welcomed here at the end of the Viet Nam Fiasco. 'Terrorist,' is just the latest right wing bogeyman. The replacement for, the 'Communists,' under our beds in the 50's. It is a pathetic lying effort to peddle fear in exchange for liberties. Oh yes - so we all must've been dreaming the WTC attacks Pentagon Attacks London Tube Bombings Bali Nightclub bombings Madrid Transit Bombings Buenes Aires Bombings Salmon Rishdie Fatwa Declartion by Iran that Israel must be "wiped of the map" Beheading of Nick Berg But one thing I've noticed - since kicking ass in the Mid East, terrorist attacks against the US have been quashed!!! Great job by GW Bush - fighting the bastards over there is a great strategy.

No. I'm talking about Al Qaeda having direct control over the oil supply. what about it?

The basic strategy is to fight the terrorists over there so we don't have to fight them here. As well, the idea is to have western presence in the region and to protect human rights and freedoms. A US presence in Iraq will do a number of things. It will occupy the terrorists (success). It will spread human/women's rights (success). It will shatter the illusion of peace in the middle east (success). It will begin to interrupt the constant stream of weaponry from Iran through Syria into southern Lebanon (success). It will precipitae a commitment and reaction by thug supporters in both Syria and Iran (success). It will allow the USA to take on the root of the hardline Islmofascists worldwide (Iran) in a proxy war without committing troops directly to Iran (success). It will demonstrate the lengths to which Islamothug rulers will go to keep women oppressed and hide the virtues of democracy from it's backward society (success). Worldwide Islamo-Terrorism has it's roots in the middle east. The middle east is a place where we have tricked ourselves into ignoring whats happening there. The hardline versions of jihad islamism have been exported from there to places like Somalia, Chechnya, Argentina, London, Paris, Brussels, and yes, New York and Washington. That's a fact. These mysoginistoc f*ckers shoot women in the head or hang them for BEING RAPED. After decades of mid-east peace talks and agreements which have led to no peace, the strategy is to shatter the illusion of those photo-op handshakes between arafat and israel. The strategy is to be there LONG TERM with a presence and establish societies that don't resemble the year 1135.

Come on. There's no way this: ...is anything but a statement saying "what's wrong with them lazy darkies?" Oh god, not this again. So if Al Qaeda overthrew the House of Saud, you'd be okay with them sitting on one of the world's biggest oil producers? ummm...ever heard of OPEC? Last I checked Ahmedinijad, Hugo Chavez and Khadafi weren't getting christmas cards from the Bushes. and you're proposing a world where Al Qaeda is financed by oil money? OH MY GOSH - WHAT A CONCEPT!!!

Remember that next time you go fill up your car at the petrol station. huh? oil is produced then sold according to and international price. all the lefties make it seem like the USA is walking into Iraq and Somalia and shipping home big vats of oil to the good ol' USA which is complete hogwash. Oil is sold on the world market.

I haven't really seen any evidence that the environment is being destroyed.

Oil in Somalia is irrelevant. You make it sound like oil is something you just grab and take home.

Well, they have your vote no matter what they do. They probably think there is no price to be paid for being strong on getting Canada on board with Kyoto. huh? maybe they've learned a thing or two from the Liberals about electioneering. The libs have made all kinds of noise about Kyoto, yet haven't lifted a finger in 10 years to comply with it. Or in the words of Andrew Coyne: "At the Second World Climate Conference in 1990, Canada committed to stabilizing its emissions of greenhouse gases at then-current levels within a decade. The pledge was repeated in the federal government’s Green Plan of that year. There followed a federal-provincial National Action Strategy on Global Warming, the federal Efficiency and Alternative Energy Program (1991), and a National Action Program on Climate Change (1995). A revised commitment, at Kyoto, to reduce emissions by 6 per cent from 1990 levels by 2008-12, resulted in the National Climate Change Process (1998), soon overtaken by Canada’s First National Climate Change Business Plan (2000), not to mention Canada’s National Implementation Strategy on Climate Change and, inevitably, a second National Climate Change Business Plan (2002). Meanwhile, the federal government was churning out Action Plan 2000, a Climate Change Plan for Canada (2002), and, in 2005, Project Green, billed as “a plan for honouring our Kyoto commitment.” Altogether, I make that two programs, four plans, a process, two strategies, and a project. The result: by 2004, Canada’s greenhouse gas emissions were nearly 27% above their 1990 baseline, having risen in more or less a straight line throughout this period. Ottawa alone had spent, by the federal environment commissioner’s count, $6-billion on sundry climate change schemes, to no discernible effect." So if anyone is "not paying the price", it's the Liberals, not the conservatives.

Obviously this is from someone who did not see the clown in his recent scaryman address to the nation .. nor does this person have the slightest sense of what is happening in America. what does a war in Iraq have to do with what is happening in America? oh yea - public mood swings. Great idea there...surrender in the battle because the ADD public is bored.

I see them bending their image to suit the public's latest faux crisis (what happened to the ozone layer crisis? how about that shrinking ozone layer - gosh the lefties hate good news)

First of all, the topic at hand is US "attacks" on Iranian outposts in Iraq or along the border. My response was, and is: IF that is happening, there isn't anything wrong with it given Iran's meddling ni the Iraq war.

Doggy from time to time you make a point, but not often. It's irritating debating you, not because your points are valid but because you rarely make an argument. Your style - alot of your posts are very long scrolls broken up with one line shootdowns like "bullshit." or "no, you're wrong". It's very difficult to continue a debate in which anyone else here can participate, because if I want to retort, I have to quote "bullshit" then respond...or "claptrap" then respond. By that point, everyone lse in the forum will have o keep reading back through pages of your scrolls and quotations to see what the debate is about. Justa thought, but instead of spending your time trying to poopoo people's points, you might want to think about constructing your own arguments. You remind me of the old guys in the balconey on the Muppets. No offense - just a thought...I doubt you'll listen.

"Despises"? THAT'S irrelevant. For you: "Mess" = "Anything that takes longer than 2 years" There is lots of work left to be done with the thugs, terrorists and armogeddonists of the mid-east. Bush has the balls not to run away when things get tough. They are already fighting Iran and Syria, the two countries who want so badly for the USA to leave so they can continue the oppression of women, to implement the hardline Ayatollah version of Islam and continue the Israel extermination plans without a US presense in the region. What did you THINK was giong on in Iraq, anyway? BTW I find it amusing that you on the left - who historically had your panties in a knot about Nukes in the '80's now yawn at the prospect of a jew-hating Islamic extremist getting his hands on them. You hissy fit about ousting an Iraq thug-dictator who murdered thousands of his own people, yet you yawn at a jew-hating nutcase getting nukes. Sometimes marvel at what irrational Bush hatred leads to.

I have had VERY similar conversations with Muslims. The responses to direct questions about support/denouncement of militant sects or violence from Islamic groups were the same: evasive.

Well it airs a show called Little Mosque on the Prairie which has a goal to ease 'tensions' between white Canadians and Islamic Canada post 9-11. Isn't this doing our country a service and providing a value onto Canadians that is priceless? I think a show about dumb white prairie folk not smart enough to "get" Muslims will backfire and piss off anyone who happens to catch the show - that's not a service. The only service a show like this provides is reinforcing the self-imposed Toronto Ideology that everyone in the world (brown, blue yellow, red and black) is smar, interesting and diverse, except the simple, truth-telling, straight talking working class people of western Canada.

And now your own political party is watching An Inconvenient Truth for inspiration. You mean...for VOTES

Why is Iraq a fiasco? Because a bunch of Muslims are killing eachother?

Any predictions for the weekend? Chicago and Baltime seem pretty safe picks. New Orleans should squeak it out over Philly. The game with the most upset potential is New England / San Diego. Tom Brady is on and I can't think of a scarier guy to face when he is... Chicago? SAFE BET? are you kidding? They've been sliding steadily since about week 10. Rex grossman is anything but great. Alot of their wins came from great special teams, and their defence is suspect. Seattle doesn't look like they're bottlnig any lighting lately either. This one's a pick - could go either way. New Orleans should win it at home - but Philly has some magic giong on - could be another upset. I'm calling two upsets in the NFC. I think New England will win as well - Tomlinson is amazing, but if anyone can figure out a system to stop him, it's The Genuis, Belichick. In the playoffs, until something changes yuo gotta like Belichick / Brady in the post season. OK That's THREE upsets. I'm not sure who the favorite is but I'll take Baltimore over the colts. The two AFC matches should be barnburners!!!! Plus OIL/FLAMES on HNIC - WHAT A WEEKEND!!!

That says more aobut the thugs and the thug-apologists (europe) in the rest of the world than it does about America, my friend. I disagree my brother. We are in the midst of two failed wars, we are attacking and provoking in Iran and threatening others in the region, and we are bombing in Somalia .. but It's their fault that they think we're dangerous? The truth is, we are dangerous and out of control .. and a great many Americans believe that as well on both sides of the political divide. Who's fault is that? The US used force to enforce UN resolution with respect to weapons inspections which were flouted by Saddam for 10 years after the gulf war. Force that the UN never would have used. Enforcement is an integral part of UN resolutions. That Sunnis and Shia wanna kick eachother to shit is unfortunate. But the US has only lost 3000 soldier in the years its been there - hardly an asskicking. If you haven't heard, Iran and Syria and funding and arming the insurgency in Iraq. If the US wants to take action to stop that it has every right. As well, Ahmedinejad has publically stated on more than one occasion that his intention is to "wipe Israel off the map". He has also publically pursued a Nuclear program for Iran in between these anti-jew hate speeches - a program which, by the way, is opposed by virtually the entire western world yet he continues. Why? Because Ahmedinejad knows this: the only country in the world that backs up it's demands with enforcement is the USA - and they're kinda busy right now. The US mid-east strategy will pay off lnog run if we're patient - alot to ask for a culture with a 5 minute attention span. Meantime, if Bush wants to take on Iran in a proxy battle inside Iraq, good on him. With all due respect brother, I find your comments astounding at this point in the knowledge of what really happened. Would you support an attack on Israel for its violations of UN Resolutions .. which far exceed those that Iraq was in violation of. In fact, Israel is in violation of more UN Resolutions than any nation in its history. I suspect that you would not support an attack on Israel .. but either UN Resolutions are valid or they are not. Suddenly "enforcement" means something else. You post your comments as if you are completely unaware of the fallout from this disaster. Are you suggesting that America needs no allies? That we have "the right" to do whatever we want and murder whomever we want? The mindless attack on Iraq only empowered Iran, who is the only real winner in this horror. Now, Bush and his minions have set their sights on Iran .. but where are the troops going to come from? Are you going to join up to fight for a cause you believe in? With all the fraud and deception that has been revealed, you are among a tiny minority who still refuse to face the reality of this monumental blunder. Why oh why is the one of the most common arguments against US foreign policy "HEY! THEY DID IT IN THIS COUNTRY, BUT THEY DIDN'T DO IT IN THAT COUNTRY" ??? Don't ask me! It's irrelevant. It was right to enforce the UN sanctions and resolutions with respect to weapons inspections in Iraq. Saddam may or may not have been a threat. But he was thumbing his nose at the UN - just as Iran is now on it's nuclear program. Right in our faces. Whether Israel has done so may or may not be true. I'd like to see some examples. But in any case, it's not really relevant as to why we (US) went into Iraq.

Calm your hormones - I asked it as a question not a statement. Doesn't the commander in chief of the armed forces decide the number of troops in a military action?

Hawaii? How are the conversations at the bar stool Jerry? Think that's why you have to come to a web forum to vent? Think about it Huh? They're all pics of Vancouver, man.

That says more aobut the thugs and the thug-apologists (europe) in the rest of the world than it does about America, my friend. I disagree my brother. We are in the midst of two failed wars, we are attacking and provoking in Iran and threatening others in the region, and we are bombing in Somalia .. but It's their fault that they think we're dangerous? The truth is, we are dangerous and out of control .. and a great many Americans believe that as well on both sides of the political divide. Who's fault is that? The US used force to enforce UN resolution with respect to weapons inspections which were flouted by Saddam for 10 years after the gulf war. Force that the UN never would have used. Enforcement is an integral part of UN resolutions. That Sunnis and Shia wanna kick eachother to shit is unfortunate. But the US has only lost 3000 soldier in the years its been there - hardly an asskicking. If you haven't heard, Iran and Syria and funding and arming the insurgency in Iraq. If the US wants to take action to stop that it has every right. As well, Ahmedinejad has publically stated on more than one occasion that his intention is to "wipe Israel off the map". He has also publically pursued a Nuclear program for Iran in between these anti-jew hate speeches - a program which, by the way, is opposed by virtually the entire western world yet he continues. Why? Because Ahmedinejad knows this: the only country in the world that backs up it's demands with enforcement is the USA - and they're kinda busy right now. The US mid-east strategy will pay off lnog run if we're patient - alot to ask for a culture with a 5 minute attention span. Meantime, if Bush wants to take on Iran in a proxy battle inside Iraq, good on him.