Derek 2.0

It's not working out well for you.......from your link: So the author doesn’t include OECD member Mexico in his chart of gun homicide rates in OECD countries because it would skew his pre determined results…….priceless!!!

Sure, but more recently: Thanks for coming out though!!!

Why not? A shotgun is one of the most versatile and user friendly firearms on the market……And happens to be the most effective firearm for duck hunting and home defence. The Duck hunter never goes home? No, the members contention was gun owners were more likely to be shot then non gun owners Why wouldn't a women own a shotgun? Every women gun owner I know, come to think of it, owns at least one shotgun.

No they don't.........So what of your proclamation of stats being skewed to fit an agenda? How is the duck hunter with this gun: less likely to be shot then the single women with this gun: ???????????

I thought you said “stats” can be construed to a given agenda…….None the less, the “stats” don’t account for a whole host of factors…… You just stated you have no issue with firearms ownership for sport (hunting, sport shooting etc), but call into question firearms ownership for personal defence. Is a middle aged sport shooter with 60+ firearms in his household 60 times more likely to be shot then a single women that owns a sole firearm for personal protection?

What if their neighbour is for example a crack dealer or a recently released sex offender?

I noticed you omitted this portion: According to your meme, I am 60+ more times likely to die from a gunshot then a gangster with one stolen gun…… I’ve never suggested that all law abiding Canadians should own firearms, but those that wish to own them should be able to do so.

The Americans don’t have the highest gun homicide rate on the planet……..let’s stick to the facts. The Americans also have many gun laws on the books that aren’t enforced, and despite gun sales rising, gun related homicides have been steadily dropping for decades..............

Ahhh but are those numbers attributed to actually using the gun or having a gun present? (And Militia type…..come on, if you want an adult discussion leave the unfounded personal attacks out of it)

No I didn’t…….I said some members favour liberalised pot laws, despite this not being party policy.

Not necessarily………social issues can transcend party lines.

How is that? Despite having gun laws stricter then even Canada, the Mexicans have nearly four times the number of gun related homicides when compared to the Americans…………As such, one could surmise that Mexican owned guns are more lethal then American guns -or- rates of both gun ownership, gun control and gun related homicide factor little into the “stats”, demonstrating that gun crime is the root result of a myriad of sociological factors.

Check the stats between the United States and Mexico.......

The don’t, nor should they, write and amend laws………I’d assume the police would also favour warrantless search and seizure powers, coupled with total civil disarmament.

If there was enough political support…..certainly………But pot laws are low down on the list of priorities of the electorate.

So you're saying there are stats that back up the statement of the other member, then state stats can be skewed to fit a given agenda..........alright.

Not as an adopted party policy, but some individual members are certainly in favour of more liberal laws.

Well that's good then......but why would the Trudeau Liberals be distancing themselves from the Emery family coming up on the 2015 election if most didn't have an issue with pot laws?

Yet it is the Trudeau Liberals that are distancing themselves from the Emery family.......

I don't think it will be a major issue, but it will resonate poorly with some voters, namely due to it occurring well he was a member of Parliament…..That coupled with Marc and Jodi’s very public positions and statements, and it’s very clear why the Trudeau Liberals are distancing themselves from the Emery family......if they thought it would help, they'd be embracing the two of them.

Sure, and one is attempting to run for the Federal Liberals and their spouse is a convicted felon with a years of name recognition behind him, who also plans to campaign for the Liberals in 2015.…… Part of me wouldn’t be surprised if the Liberals dump Emery squared…….anyone remember when Marc called Irwin Cotler a “Nazi Jew”? Either way, Trudeau now owns Jodi and Marc Emery, even if he ends up dumping them………And don’t be surprised to hear attack adds from both the Conservatives and NDP coming up on 2015 including some of the Emery highlight reel, coupled with Trudeau's own drug usage.

They both very vocally have shared views……

Certainly……As I asked, are either of you running for political office in the 2015 election?

Why? Marc has stated he will campaign for his wife and the Federal Liberals in the 2015 election……..I assume the Liberals, based on Trudeau’s Vancouver pot policy announcement, will attempt to change their political standing via the pot smoker vote.

Are either of you running for office and/or are known in public life to the same extent as Emery?