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Another view on Trudeau's Payout 10.5:

This dear Omar cartoon has a MAD Magazine vibe.... https://www.thespec.com/opinion-story/7408500-editorial-cartoon-july-6/

Don't flatter yourself I am not fascinated by what comes out of you although I do question how someone your size produces so much of it. The movements you identify with speak for themselves.

You are a child. Your raison d'etres is to come on this board and derail topics. Calling the US a Nazi state has nothing to do with the thread. Your technique of using the Nazi accusation reflects your ignorance. You use it instead of the word poo or kaka. Your inability to understand Nazism causes you to turn Nazi into a catch phrase to call things poo poo and ka ka. This thread is about Kadr not your personal need to call the US poo and ka.

You have her mixed up with the Muslim extremist terrorist beliefs of Kadr, his family and Al Quaeda. Isn't it special how you engage in a passive aggressive anti Christian insult against Betsy while posing as a moral saint on this thread. She's not a religious freak because she's a conservative Christian I will say it again liberals like you are the worst of bigots. You engage in passive aggressive bigotry in your words posing as enlightened This thread is about Kadr not her.

We've got generation of wusses! All they gotta do is show this clip..... ........and they'll be singing like canaries!

I have no issue with this and wish we would do the same.

I'm really starting to enjoy this whole thing... Go back (not that long ago) and check the thread that is all bitching about moderation and read it. Posters complained that moderators were using too heavy a hand when giving out suspensions. Then the whining continued that moderators were removing "improper" posts and comments without warning. Then the ever-present sniveling about moderators not having a rock solid definition of "trolling". Then what happens? Moderators take a new approach - they are hands off except for extreme cases on the board....and posters bitch and whine about "no moderation" and "not taking down bad posts" and "not handing out suspensions to trolls". Well, which is it people? What exactly do you want on MLW? Moderation? No moderation? Suspensions? Free reign to post whatever? Make up your friggin minds for once. I happen to think the board is regulating itself just fine. "Trolls" are being sniped back at a little and then ignored by everyone for the most part. Isn't that what everyone was crying for in the first place - to do whatever is within the rules and not have The Hands of Greg come smashing down? Grow up or go home. /rant

Improper use of quoting function....try again. Previously, you mocked tortured and dead "aboriginal" victims by posting they should have gotten better lawyers compared to little Omar.

You ought to consider learning history and English, PIK. =============== The Secret Wars of the CIA Excerpts from a talk by John Stockwell These are the activites done by the Contras. The Contras are the people President Reagan called "freedom fighters." He said: "They are the moral equivalent of our founding fathers." In 1960, we came up with a new term, a policy of trying to correct the problems of Central and Latin America -- the economic imbalances -- by addressing them directly. In President Kennedy's famous program he said: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable." However, the millions and millions of dollars that we put into this program, inevitably went to the rich, and not to the ordinary people of the countries involved. While we were doing this, or trying -- saying we were trying to correct the problems of Central and Latin America -- the CIA was doing its thing too. The CIA was, in fact, forming the police units that are, today, the death squads in El Salvador. The leaders were on the CIA's payroll, trained by the CIA in the United States. We had the public safety program going throughout Central and Latin America for twenty-six years, in which we taught them to break up subversion by interrogating people: interrogation, including torture, the way the CIA taught it. Dan Mitrione, the exponent of these things, spent seven years in Brazil and three in Uruguay, teaching interrogation; teaching torture. He was supposed to be the master of the business: how to apply the right amount of pain, at just the right times, in order to get the response you want from the individual. They gave them crank generators -- with "U.S.A.I.D." written on the side, so the people even knew where these things came from -- and developed a wire that was strong enough to carry the current and fine enough to fit between the teeth, so you could put one wire between the teeth, and the other in or around the genitals. You could crank, and submit the individual to the greatest amount of pain, supposedly, that the human body can register. Now, how do you teach torture? Someone can teach you about torture, but sooner or later you have to get involved. You have to lay on your hands and try it yourself. They would pick up guinea pigs off the streets: beggars, and take them in to use in these torture training classes. Of course, the horror of that is, these people wouldn't know why they were being tortured. They couldn't give up. They couldn't say: "I'm sorry! Stop the pain! I'll tell you the names of everybody involved!" All they could do was lie there and scream! When they would collapse, they would bring in doctors who would shoot them up with Vitamin B and rest them up for the next class. And when they would die, they would mutilate the bodies and throw them out on the streets to terrify the population, so that everybody would be afraid of the police and the Government. This is what the CIA was teaching them to do. ... There's a lesson in all this. The lesson is: It isn't just the Gestapo maniacs, or KGB maniacs, who do inhuman things to other people. It's PEOPLE who do inhuman things to other people.And we [USA] are responsible for doing these things on a massive basis, to people of the world today. We do it in a way that gives us plausible denial to our own consciences. We create a CIA, a secret police, with a vast budget, and let them go and run these programs in our name. We pretend like we don't know what's going on, though the information is there for us to know. And we pretend like it's okay because we're fighting some vague communist threat. We're just as responsible for these ONE TO THREE MILLION PEOPLE we've slaughtered, and for all the people we've tortured and made miserable, as the Gestapo was for the people that they slaughtered and killed. Genocide is genocide !! http://www.serendipity.li/cia/stock1.html

You mean when a culture is under generations long attack from violent religious fanatics bent on genocide, fanatics eagerly supported by some in the West?

Ignorance.

Its also incredibly ironic someone like you who did not read the article comes on this thread posing as some moral saint outraged at others. You aren't worth the energy to spend more words on.

I would expect an anti-Israel like you to engage in such intellectual dishonesty, remove this story from its actual context, and misrepresent it. First let's take the quote you deliberately misrepresented and removed from its actual context so people can you deliberately cut it to make it read differently then what it actually said: "It’s important for Gat that his clients know why he decided to open his academy to tourists. “One day, I sat there wondering whether a Jew in the death camp of Auschwitz could have ever dreamed that an academy like this would ever exist in Israel and that it would train members of the German army,” he tells them. “And then I said to myself that I am going to open this place to the public to show what a long way the Jewish people have come in 75 years.” It went on to state in the article: ' "... But today, they understand the importance of what we do here,” he says. “People who do our programs come out with a much better understanding of this country. They become ambassadors for the State of Israel. " As his instructors like to point out, it’s not only Israeli soldiers who operate according to the army’s “purity of arms” doctrine, which stipulates that soldiers will maintain their humanity even in combat. So do their attack dogs. At a live demonstration, the visitors watch as Zeus lunges at a “terrorist” wielding a knife, forcing him to the ground while tearing into his padded coverall. But once that knife is dropped and the threat is eliminated, Zeus backs off. “Even the dogs in the IDF value human life,” the instructor says." ' You misrepresented the above not providing it for the actual context . You in fact went to paragraph two of the article and removed the following words: "– for which the group from Hong Kong has signed up – includes a simulation of a suicide bombing in a Jerusalem marketplace, immediately followed by a stabbing attack, a live demonstration with attack dogs and a sniper tournament" You then went to the full words and context I have reproduced which can be found under the heading, "The Shadow of Ausschwitz and removed the following words from its full context that I have embolded and then you falsely tacked them on to the other words you also falsely removed from their full context: "The first tourist group to arrive at Caliber 3 on this Friday morning includes, in addition to the dozen or so visitors from Hong Kong, several Jewish families from New York and Los Angeles. After an introduction from lead instructor Eitan Cohen (described by his boss as “the top in Israel” in krav maga), Gat makes his entrance dressed in full military gear. To the sounds of loud applause, he’s introduced as “the colonel who has commanded 10,000 soldiers in the Israeli army.” It’s important for Gat that his clients know why he decided to open his academy to tourists. “One day, I sat there wondering whether a Jew in the death camp of Auschwitz could have ever dreamed that an academy like this would ever exist in Israel and that it would train members of the German army,” he tells them. “And then I said to myself that I am going to open this place to the public to show what a long way the Jewish people have come in 75 years.” You deliberately removed and cut and paste two segments of wording from their original full context to appear as if they were connected and to lend the false representation that the people running these simulation centres were teaching people its fun to kill. In fact the true purpose of these sessions as the session leader stated is to show the reality of terrorism and what has to be done to defend against it. Its not portrayed as fun. That Sir makes you a bald faced liar. You deliberately mislead because your agenda is to come on this forum and find pretenses to piss on Israel. You are now exposed for what you did and no it does not surprise me you act as if you are some morally righteous saint patronizing evil blood thirsty Jews. The only difference between you and the piss on Israel entourage you attract is you pose as some morally righteous purveyor of moral values indignant in the face of blood thirsty Jews. I call you out as using this thread and your exercise as a pathetic attempt to engage in raising anti semitic stereotypes of Jews as being bloodthirsty. Go on protest your innocence. The stink and misrepresentation is there for all to see.

So says someone in the mood for trolling.

So what? How did that harm Canadians? On the other hand, when Trudeau decided to double the number of seniors allowed to immigrate to Canada and exempt them from skills or language testing that cost me and every other Canadian a lot of money, billions, in health care costs. And that was done why? Because of his appealing to his ethnic base.

You are not a "we". You are one person. No doubt you may be a Queen, but your constant references to yourself as a "we" is either the result of a delusion, swollen ego, or choice of lifestyle either way, you are a you. You speak for no one but yourself and perhaps some Kadr groupies.

Godwined!