M.Dancer Posted September 4, 2007 Report Posted September 4, 2007 Premier Dalton McGuinty yesterday pitched a new paid holiday during the bleakest month of the year. Dubbed Family Day, it would "recognize the importance of Ontario families by giving hard-working Ontarians more time to spend with the people they love." http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...y/National/home Now I'm all for another holiday....but I think there are a few days out there that are better deserving of me sleeping in till 7:30...... March 17th (or to be kinder, the day after March 17th) You could call it Multicultural Day. Or the Day everyone celebrates being Irish regardless of race colour or creed. November 11th. Call it a Moment of Silence day October 8th (because everyone should have an extra day to digest the turkey and celebrate my birthday. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
noahbody Posted September 4, 2007 Report Posted September 4, 2007 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...y/National/homeNow I'm all for another holiday....but I think there are a few days out there that are better deserving of me sleeping in till 7:30...... March 17th (or to be kinder, the day after March 17th) You could call it Multicultural Day. Or the Day everyone celebrates being Irish regardless of race colour or creed. November 11th. Call it a Moment of Silence day October 8th (because everyone should have an extra day to digest the turkey and celebrate my birthday. Novemeber 11 is a statutory holiday. Quote
M.Dancer Posted September 4, 2007 Author Report Posted September 4, 2007 Novemeber 11 is a statutory holiday. Where? Here in Ontario, the only people who get paid for a day off are Bank employees and silly servants. 1) The following statutory holidays are recognized in the labour/employment standards legislation of the various Canadian jurisdictions: New Year’s Day, Good Friday (or Easter Monday in Quebec), Canada Day (Memorial Day in Nfld.), Labour Day, Christmas Day : all jurisdictions; Victoria Day (Dollard Day in Quebec), Thanksgiving Day : all jurisdictions, except N.B., Nfld., N.S. and P.E.I; 1st Monday in August : B.C. (British Columbia Day), N.B. (New Brunswick Day), Sask. (Saskatchewan Day), NWT., Nunavut; Remembrance Day : federal jurisdiction, Alta., B.C., Sask., NWT., Nunavut, Yukon; also see note 7; Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
noahbody Posted September 4, 2007 Report Posted September 4, 2007 Where? Here in Ontario, the only people who get paid for a day off are Bank employees and silly servants. Looks like it's a stat everywhere but Ontario, Manitoba and Quebec. That's sad. Quote
August1991 Posted September 4, 2007 Report Posted September 4, 2007 Am I the only one to think that having a day off when the weather is crappy amounts to not having a day off? When do people sit in their offices and look longingly outside? In February or July? Quote
capricorn Posted September 4, 2007 Report Posted September 4, 2007 Would an additional day off for provincial public servants increase the present payroll? It seems to me that if they're all off that one day, some of them would have to work overtime to catch up on the accumulated work. Not that I'm against the idea. IMO this will not come free to taxpayers. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
M.Dancer Posted September 4, 2007 Author Report Posted September 4, 2007 Would an additional day off for provincial public servants increase the present payroll? It seems to me that if they're all off that one day, some of them would have to work overtime to catch up on the accumulated work.Not that I'm against the idea. IMO this will not come free to taxpayers. Another reason to make a new day off Nov 11. Swivel servants in Ontario already get it off. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
jdobbin Posted September 4, 2007 Report Posted September 4, 2007 Looks like it's a stat everywhere but Ontario, Manitoba and Quebec. That's sad. I believe Manitoba was the first to make it a stat day in Canada. They were also the first to make changes after seeking the advice of veterans about opening stores after 1 PM. Quote
jennie Posted September 4, 2007 Report Posted September 4, 2007 (edited) Would an additional day off for provincial public servants increase the present payroll? It seems to me that if they're all off that one day, some of them would have to work overtime to catch up on the accumulated work.Not that I'm against the idea. IMO this will not come free to taxpayers. Not to worry: Silly servants are called that because they are silly enough to catch up on work on their own time without overtime (overtime pay? in the public service? don't make me laugh!!) I am fully in favour of a holiday in February. It is long overdue!! Edited September 4, 2007 by jennie Quote If you are claiming a religious exemption from the hate law, please say so up front. If you have no religious exemption, please keep hateful thoughts to yourself. Thank you. MY Canada includes Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
Evan Posted September 4, 2007 Report Posted September 4, 2007 (edited) Not to worry: Silly servants are called that because they are silly enough to catch up on work on their own time without overtime (overtime pay? in the public service? don't make me laugh!!)I am fully in favour of a holiday in February. It is long overdue!! Give us Valentines Day to encourage family values within couples. "Vote Liberal! We may not know how to manage money, but we'll give you another day to get drunk every year in hopes that the party lives on forever and you never notice what we're really up to." I don't think an extra day off is going to be all that important to the people who have been given 365 days a year off in our manufacturing industry. Edited September 4, 2007 by Evan Quote
geoffrey Posted September 4, 2007 Report Posted September 4, 2007 Am I the only one to think that having a day off when the weather is crappy amounts to not having a day off?When do people sit in their offices and look longingly outside? In February or July? We get August and February in Alberta. At least that's the practice, I think it's only legally required to do one, but every employer I know of pays out both. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
jdobbin Posted September 4, 2007 Report Posted September 4, 2007 We get August and February in Alberta. At least that's the practice, I think it's only legally required to do one, but every employer I know of pays out both. I thought you might weigh in that the government should have no control over days off. Quote
geoffrey Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 I thought you might weigh in that the government should have no control over days off. Obviously they don't in Alberta, companies choose to give us more than legally required. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
mikedavid00 Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 Obviously they don't in Alberta, companies choose to give us more than legally required. Wow it's certainly not like that in Ontario. Here companies have a habbit of breaking employment laws regarding vacation time and holidays. Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
jdobbin Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 Obviously they don't in Alberta, companies choose to give us more than legally required. There are no statutory days of the provincial government? Quote
geoffrey Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 There are no statutory days of the provincial government? There is, but like I said, private sector employees get an additional day off. Good luck every hiring someone with two weeks vacation to start too. Employment regulations mean nothing in Alberta, they are just there to keep the NDP happy. Everyone would be just as well off in a completely free labour market (except for maybe bar/restuarant staff). Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
jdobbin Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 There is, but like I said, private sector employees get an additional day off.Good luck every hiring someone with two weeks vacation to start too. Employment regulations mean nothing in Alberta, they are just there to keep the NDP happy. Everyone would be just as well off in a completely free labour market (except for maybe bar/restuarant staff). The NDP are responsible for statutory days off? They must be more powerful than I imagined. Let's see what a completely free labour market would look like: No government overtime for working more than 40 hours a week. No restrictions keeping businesses closed on any day or hour. No stat days like Canada Day, Christmas or New Year's Eve. No government restriction on how long someone could work or when they could begin work based on age. No government rules on hiring, firing, discrimination. No government rules on employees working alone. No minimum wage. No government rules on pregnancy leave. If Alberta could pull that off, they could say they are the most business friendly place in the world. Quote
geoffrey Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 No government overtime for working more than 40 hours a week. Government requires time and a half. No one here works for less than double time in OT. No restrictions keeping businesses closed on any day or hour. No stat days like Canada Day, Christmas or New Year's Eve. Lots of businesses are open all those days here... but all the stat days would likely be recognized anyways, otherwise employees would go elsewhere... in fact they do. We get more than the legal number of stat days. No government restriction on how long someone could work or when they could begin work based on age. Already isn't much of that in Alberta. You can start at 12, but I believe you can only work 20 hours a week until 14. No government rules on hiring, firing, discrimination. Good, shouldn't be anyways. No government rules on employees working alone. If you don't feel safe, take another job. There are plenty. No minimum wage. No one makes minimum wage other than bar and restuarant staff. A cashier at Superstore is hired at $12.50. Shipper/Recievers at $14. No government rules on pregnancy leave. Pregnancy leave one of the leading reasons why women don't advance in management roles, but that's for another thread. If Alberta could pull that off, they could say they are the most business friendly place in the world. I think we already are, but like I showed above, most of those rules do nothing anyways because every employer must go beyond that to retain even a incompetent fool for more than a week. The solution to labour issues is to create a market like we have out here. Then companies must provide excellent working environments or people simply won't work for them... or if they do it's because of their own ignorance/stubborness. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
scribblet Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 No doubt it's election time - not only a day off if you vote for them but dental care... wonder what other goodies will be offered shortly. I want a bigger and better pension http://www.thestar.com/News/Ontario/article/253259 Ontario's working poor would get basic dental care under a $45 million-a-year program to be promised by the Liberal government, the Toronto Star has learned. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
M.Dancer Posted September 5, 2007 Author Report Posted September 5, 2007 No doubt it's election time - not only a day off if you vote for them but dental care... wonder what other goodies will be offered shortly. I want a bigger and better pension http://www.thestar.com/News/Ontario/article/253259 Ontario's working poor would get basic dental care under a $45 million-a-year program to be promised by the Liberal government, the Toronto Star has learned. Quebec has dental care for those under 18. When I turned 13, they had free denatl care for 12 and under....when I turned 19 they had free dental care for younger than me. While I'm not suggesting that braces, caps and cosmetic dentistry should be in amy way covered, basic dental care is good sound preventitive medicine. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
mikedavid00 Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 November 11th. Call it a Moment of Silence day How about 'Mohommad Day'. I like that better. So does Tory most likely. Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
Higgly Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 I'm all for Remembrance Day and the February Family Day. What the heck. The Indians are observing damn near every holiday ever invented and they're eating our lunch. I say go for Diwali too. And Chinese New Year. In fact, I'd say dump Victoria Day and go for Diwali. Quote "We have seen the enemy and he is us!". Pogo (Walt Kelly).
mikedavid00 Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 I'm all for Remembrance Day and the February Family Day. What the heck. The Indians are observing damn near every holiday ever invented and they're eating our lunch. I say go for Diwali too. And Chinese New Year. In fact, I'd say dump Victoria Day and go for Diwali. But what about Islamic holdidays like Ramadan? Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
geoffrey Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 Since we get the other two already out here (I missed the poll earlier), I'm voting solidly behind St. Patrick's day. I actually would have voted that regardless. Nothing like a good ski in the morning and a Guiness filled pub crawl in the afternoon and evening. I take it off already (and the following day). Might as well make it a real deal holiday, think of the bar profits! Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
madmax Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 No doubt it's election time - not only a day off if you vote for them but dental care... wonder what other goodies will be offered shortly. I want a bigger and better pension The Liberals are full of new promises and a pony too. What the Liberals really didn't want to do was address Labour Day. They did that effectively by having people talk about something they voted down only to say they think it is a really good idea now. Glad they thought of it. What kind of pony would you like. Quote
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