Black Dog Posted August 17, 2007 Report Posted August 17, 2007 look at the facts. The facts of what happen are what is important. Quotes discussing strategy is not what it relevent. The facts of what happened are. ... Quote
jbg Posted August 18, 2007 Report Posted August 18, 2007 Clearly they showed an iota of restraint, in the sense that they didn't completely annihilate Beirut, since they would be condemned by the world's nations for that type of aggressive action.It may well be that it is Mecca that needs flattening, and not Beirut. A nice influx of pigs would do the job as well, with slightly less loss of life. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted August 18, 2007 Report Posted August 18, 2007 In a street fight, it is one thing to defend yourself against someone who starts swinging at you, it is quite another thing to beat the crap out of their friends and smash their car. Why would anyone do that? Hopefully the original attacker's friends will turn on him for being so stupid to attack you in the first place.Not bloody likely. Google the genesis of the term "Black September". In September 1970, Jordan's King Hussein, tired of being targeted by the Israelis for retaliation after what were then called "guerrilla" attacks, carried out an expulsion of "Palestinians" so bloody it alarmed even Israel. Generally, peaceful countries don't enjoy being the subject of retaliation for the work of "irregulars". If ragtag teams of Canadians started "guerilla" attacks in Niagara and Windsor, do you think the US would just stand there if Ontarian or Canadian authorities did nothing? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
cybercoma Posted August 18, 2007 Report Posted August 18, 2007 It may well be that it is Mecca that needs flattening, and not Beirut. A nice influx of pigs would do the job as well, with slightly less loss of life.Wow. Quote
jbg Posted August 18, 2007 Report Posted August 18, 2007 Wow. Maybe a bit of an exaggeration, but I do live 40 Trudeau Units from Ground Zero. They're no different than Paul Bernardo on a mass scale. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
marcinmoka Posted August 18, 2007 Author Report Posted August 18, 2007 (edited) 40 Trudeau Units Stuff like this that makes me question jbg. While I respect him, I wonder. Was he bullied as a youth? Is his obsession with Canada stem from a Jungian quest to seek out smaller, innocent targets such as our nation in an attempt to reaffirm his sense of status of self? (I mean this in the most sincere manner, out of genuine concern as a friend, not a foe). I never thought I would see the day that an educated, urbanite would make a case for some archaic, illogical measurement based on some ex-rulers bodily dimensions. Than I heard jbg argue it. If the GOP were to announce their support for banning all music, jbg would argue for him tooth and nail, such is his devotion to projecting the image that the U.S is infallible. I like the U.S and all but imperial HAS GOT TO GO! Perhaps it is also slightly symptomatic cavalier attitude. Sometimes it is for the best. But not always. Sorry, back to the topic at hand. As I said earlier, moral or immoral, the fact is that billboard was in violation of the law. Plain and simple. Edited August 18, 2007 by marcinmoka Quote " Influence is far more powerful than control"
jbg Posted August 18, 2007 Report Posted August 18, 2007 Stuff like this that makes me question jbg. While I respect him, I wonder. Was he bullied as a youth? Is his obsession with Canada stem from a Jungian quest to seek out smaller, innocent targets such as our nation in an attempt to reaffirm his sense of status of self? (I mean this in the most sincere manner, out of genuine concern as a friend, not a foe).I post plenty on other boards, but I find learning about another country interesting and a challenge.I never thought I would see the day that an educated, urbanite would make a case for some archaic, illogical measurement based on some ex-rulers bodily dimensions. Than I heard jbg argue it.I like the U.S and all but imperial HAS GOT TO GO! Perhaps it is also slightly symptomatic cavalier attitude. Sometimes it is for the best. But not always. I have a question. Why do popular songs, even those written currently, in Canada, still refer to miles rather than kilometers? Blue Rodeo has at least two that I know of, English Bay and Rena (for that matter one is by Keelor, the other Cuddy). If the GOP were to announce their support for banning all music, jbg would argue for him tooth and nail, such is his devotion to projecting the image that the U.S is infallible.No way. I like music too much.Sorry, back to the topic at hand. As I said earlier, moral or immoral, the fact is that billboard was in violation of the law. Plain and simple.Aside from the split in meaning between the English and the Arabic versions, I have no problem with free speech, unless there is an actual advocacy of violence. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
marcinmoka Posted August 18, 2007 Author Report Posted August 18, 2007 (edited) Why do popular songs, even those written currently, in Canada, still refer to miles rather than kilometers? Simplicity in rhyming, brevity, established references in popular culture, etc. Than again, if "popular" (N.B. You and I hail from greatly different generations, for this is no Arcade Fire or Buck 65) music should be the determinant factor in scientific measurement, God help us all. Granted, your local second amendment poster boy "Fity-Cent" does talk about shippin' ki's, so maybe we are making inroads. The real question is why do the scientifically literate minds down south insist on using these "Trudeau Units". Either that, or the minds of MIT and Caltech are ultra secretive about their "Nano-Inch" processors, so much so, we are yet to hear talk of them. Edited August 18, 2007 by marcinmoka Quote " Influence is far more powerful than control"
cybercoma Posted August 19, 2007 Report Posted August 19, 2007 jbg is hilarious. I never realized it, but look at that post above. He talks about popular music then makes a Blue Rodeo reference. That right there is priceless! Good one, jbg! Quote
jbg Posted August 19, 2007 Report Posted August 19, 2007 jbg is hilarious. I never realized it, but look at that post above. He talks about popular music then makes a Blue Rodeo reference. That right there is priceless! Good one, jbg!Thanks. Are you surprised I know about Blue Rodeo?In any case, the lyrics in question are, from "Rena", "thousand mile of pavement..." and from"English Bay", "though you're over a thousand miles away, I hear you..." Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
kimmy Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 Thanks. Are you surprised I know about Blue Rodeo? I think he was pointing out the unintentional humor of referring to Blue Rodeo as "popular". As for the Imperial system: I have heard that anybody required to engineering calculations in Imperial quickly comes to appreciate the Metric system. Navigating through the retarded mish-mash of units, trying to figure out how many cubic inches in a cubic furlong, and that sort of thing, makes the units of measure a bigger challenge than the calculations themselves in many instances. As for a Hezbollah billboard in Windsor? I oppose restrictions on free speech in all but the most extreme circumstances. I say, let them have their billboard... (...and let CSIS and the RCMP keep a very close eye on the people who sponsored it.) -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
jbg Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 As for a Hezbollah billboard in Windsor? I oppose restrictions on free speech in all but the most extreme circumstances. I say, let them have their billboard... (...and let CSIS and the RCMP keep a very close eye on the people who sponsored it.) -k Billboard fine, inaccurate Arabic/English parellel content not fine. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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