Leafless Posted August 1, 2007 Report Posted August 1, 2007 (edited) What is going on in Iraq? On July 25, the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom held a major hearing on religious persecution in Iraq that made your stomach turn. It effectively demonstrated that American soldiers, many of them Christians, are giving their lives and limbs to prop up a Muslim government that encourages or tolerates religious persecution against Christians. Michael Cromartie, chairman of the group and an appointee of President Bush, said reports indicate that nearly half of Iraq's Christians have already fled the country. Over 30 churches have been destroyed, priests have been kidnapped, killed, or beheaded, and the Christians have been systematically targeted for persecution by Islamic fundamentalists. A 14-year-old boy was crucified in Basra. A one-year-old baby was roasted and delivered to his mother's doorstep, on a bed of rice. It also looks like China is emerging as another winner in Iraq. Incredibly, after returning from a state visit to China, Iraq President Jalal Talabani announced that his government was going to buy weapons from the Chinese for Iraqi police forces. China also agreed to cancel Iraqi debt. The two countries signed deals on economic cooperation and China is seeking an agreement to develop Iraqi oil fields. The Republicans, regardless of who they nominate, will lose because of the war in Iraq. Voters want to punish the Republicans for Iraq. This sure doesn't sound to good for President Bush. http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/kincaid073107.htm Edited August 1, 2007 by Leafless Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 1, 2007 Report Posted August 1, 2007 This sure doesn't sound to good for President Bush. That's what they said in 2004 too. President Bush will be fine, completing his second term into 2009. That the Democrats do not have the race locked up today speaks volumes. That's why the Americans still have elections....pundits cannot predict the future. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Leafless Posted August 2, 2007 Author Report Posted August 2, 2007 That's what they said in 2004 too. President Bush will be fine, completing his second term into 2009. That the Democrats do not have the race locked up today speaks volumes. At this point of time it looks close and hopefully the Republicans will pull far ahead, despite potentially harmful stories that continue to come out of Iraq. http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27910 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 2, 2007 Report Posted August 2, 2007 At this point of time it looks close and hopefully the Republicans will pull far ahead, despite potentially harmful stories that continue to come out of Iraq. Doesn't matter... Iraq had "stories" in 2004 as well. It's not a big deal if a democrat wins the presidential election....he/she will still be an American. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
kimmy Posted August 2, 2007 Report Posted August 2, 2007 Systematic violence against Christians by Muslims in many areas of Africa and Asia is one of the most appalling yet least talked about trends going on in the world right now. I can only assume the reason for the silence on this issue is that it's mostly occurring in second-rate little countries that are apparently beneath our notice. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
Bonam Posted August 2, 2007 Report Posted August 2, 2007 I can only assume the reason for the silence on this issue is that it's mostly occurring in second-rate little countries that are apparently beneath our notice. You can bet that if the violence was directed the other way around (Christians systematically killing Muslims), those countries would be front page news every day. Quote
Leafless Posted August 2, 2007 Author Report Posted August 2, 2007 Systematic violence against Christians by Muslims in many areas of Africa and Asia is one of the most appalling yet least talked about trends going on in the world right now.I can only assume the reason for the silence on this issue is that it's mostly occurring in second-rate little countries that are apparently beneath our notice. -k What is really disturbing is the U.S. military, large majority Christians, actually defending these barbaric actions of Muslims in Iraq and dying for their barbaric actions. I am now more convinced than ever, this should have been totally a push button war and damn the consequences. Quote
Leafless Posted August 2, 2007 Author Report Posted August 2, 2007 I can only assume the reason for the silence on this issue is that it's mostly occurring in second-rate little countries that are apparently beneath our notice. You can bet that if the violence was directed the other way around (Christians systematically killing Muslims), those countries would be front page news every day. There is absolutely no excuse to hide what is currently happening in Iraq, especially in civilized countries such as Canada. I can only assume the media is under federal control and free speech is again being censored and the actions of Muslims in Iraq, obviously is being condoned by our federal government. If this was not the case the feds would be the first ones proclaiming the actions of Muslims in Iraq as totally barbaric and totally unacceptable to the ideologies of the majority Western Christian world. Quote
SkyhookJackson Posted August 3, 2007 Report Posted August 3, 2007 Systematic violence against Christians by Muslims in many areas of Africa and Asia is one of the most appalling yet least talked about trends going on in the world right now. I can only assume the reason for the silence on this issue is that it's mostly occurring in second-rate little countries that are apparently beneath our notice. -k What is really disturbing is the U.S. military, large majority Christians, actually defending these barbaric actions of Muslims in Iraq and dying for their barbaric actions. I am now more convinced than ever, this should have been totally a push button war and damn the consequences. I'm confused. You're upset with the war and the way it is being executed, yet you want the Republicans to pull ahead in the presidential election? So you can have more of the same? Or are you hoping for someone loonier than what we've already got who'll just "push the button" and nuke them all? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 3, 2007 Report Posted August 3, 2007 I'm confused. You're upset with the war and the way it is being executed, yet you want the Republicans to pull ahead in the presidential election? So you can have more of the same? Or are you hoping for someone loonier than what we've already got who'll just "push the button" and nuke them all? Oh, you mean like the Democrat and President Harry Truman? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Leafless Posted August 4, 2007 Author Report Posted August 4, 2007 What is really disturbing is the U.S. military, large majority Christians, actually defending these barbaric actions of Muslims in Iraq and dying for their barbaric actions. I am now more convinced than ever, this should have been totally a push button war and damn the consequences. I'm confused. You're upset with the war and the way it is being executed, yet you want the Republicans to pull ahead in the presidential election? So you can have more of the same? Or are you hoping for someone loonier than what we've already got who'll just "push the button" and nuke them all? I am upset at the barbaric ways of the Muslims in Iraq. Do you know what the role of the U.S. military in Iraq is? Have you seen the latest number insurgent numbers in comparison from 2003 to 2007? Number of insurgents in Iraq in November 2003: 5,000 [brookings Institution, 4/26/07]Number of insurgents in Iraq in March 2007: 70,000 (Sunni only) [brookings Institution, 4/26/07 These numbers and others are from Nancy Pelosi's web site. http://speaker.gov/issues/index_html?id=0012 There has been pressure on the UN for an expanded UN mandate in Iraq: UN officials, however, say the continuing high level of violence puts limits on what Unami can achieve. Since the bombing of the UN headquarters in August 2003, killing the special envoy, Sergio Vieira de Mello, and 21 others, the UN mission has been scaled down considerably, and there are often unfilled vacancies at Unami. http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2140851,00.html No one really knows what to do with these Iraq animals. I don't think realistically speaking my thoughts are far out of line and I don't think whoever is in power, Republicans or Democrats, are going to be facing one hell of a problem with few answers. Quote
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