Caucasians

[ScottSA]

The real question though is why wouldn't you want to protect caucasians?

Simple. They are nothing special. As I stated earlier, I may be biased since I am surrounded by "White Trash", but I see nothing "caucasianess" on it's own as nothing special, nothing worth getting your panties in a whirl. Protecting "Johnny Methhead & Co." for the simple fact he and his family are white is futile. I would rather put energy and resources in helping someone who is beneficial to our culture/society, regardless of skin.

But caucasians don't have to be something special in order for me to want to preserve them. I am a caucasian, I'm proud of being a caucasian, and that's all the reason I need. I'm also concerned that as a minority, caucasians may end up being treated somewhat less kindly than our current society treats other minorities. I don't see one good, or even reasonable arguemnt against preserving caucasians. If you want to raise an angry mob of self-righteous leftists on the strength of that, go for it. I need a good laugh.

[ScottSA]

Jefferiah, ScottSA, Kimmy: I think I’ve been very clear on my views regarding this subject. I don’t see skin color as having any significance in the quality of a person’s character and from what I can read you have all agreed with that sentiment. Yes? No? You all agree that skin color is superficial. Yes? No?

You all wonder (or surmise) why I oppose the idea of deliberate and intentional preservation of skin color. It is because I see no room for sentimentalism or superficialities when dealing with fundamental values.

All of you put a great deal of importance in preserving skin color. So much so that you allow it to dictate something as fundamental as whom you choose to marry and have children with. So what is it that is so important that you must hold this superficial aspect as a fundamental value?

Well, you're actually the one reducing this to a mere question of skin color. My definition involves something not quite as superficial, although you have shown so far no capacity for understanding subtlety, so you may never get it. Caucasians, as a category of race, and as the topical category of race in this thread, share skin color as one aspect of their phenotype, but skin color is not the sum total of caucasianhood, nor is caucasian synonymous with white skin. If that were the case, Michael Jackson would be caucasian, and he's not.

So it may be sentimental, but it's certainly not as superficial as you would like to think. And frankly there are other reasons, reasons already discussed here. I see no good reason for caucasians to agree to become minorities in their own homeland. No country in Asia or Africa would agree to a massive influx of caucasians to their homelands, and I see no moral imperitive for caucasians to extinguish themselves in a spasm of apology and self-hate, although I understand that you and your ilk hold opposing views.

And this "fundamental value" you speak of. What fundamental value are you talking about?

[ScottSA]

I can understand why Kimmy would want blond children. After all she wouldn't want her kids to be smarter than her.....

IN the end those arguing for protection of the caucas are just superficial egoists. They are more concerned about looks and marinating the pure line than they are about humanity, or genetics. I mean these people are intent on preserving small penis shrimps. I mean real men are descendants of mixed cultures and when the white boys are out trying to polish their whiteness, the rest of us are making babies with their wives.

Of course few pure whites ever get dates unless you want to count pouring beer on their hands trying to get their dates drunk......

The fact is there is nothing special about caucas except the brown ones and the white ones all come from the same place.....

I'm willing to bet these guys were all born with their mothers standing up.

This is pure hate filled racism. If anyone were to say the same thing about Blacks or about you, you'd be snivelling and shrieking in outrage. WTF is wrong with you?

[marcinmoka]

I'm also concerned that as a minority, caucasians may end up being treated somewhat less kindly than our current society treats other minorities

Well this makes far more sense than us being like "flowers". And this is definitely a very valid point to consider.

I don't see one good, or even reasonable arguemnt against preserving caucasians.

Again. Walk down Sherbourne St. or a local trailer park. Are they more deserving of special treatment than a hard working, law abiding Chinese family?

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It's unfortunate (although appropriate) that Scott answered Marcinmoka:

I'm sorry, but you're just making no sense whatsoever. You don't seem to know who said what, and either you're attributing motives, words, and the killing of kittens to me with not even a pretence of honesty, or your ESL absolutely sucks. Maybe try again, slowly.

August1991, could you elaborate? Or perhaps my ESL really does suck.

[kimmy]

Jefferiah, ScottSA, Kimmy: I think I’ve been very clear on my views regarding this subject. I don’t see skin color as having any significance in the quality of a person’s character and from what I can read you have all agreed with that sentiment. Yes? No? You all agree that skin color is superficial. Yes? No?

You all wonder (or surmise) why I oppose the idea of deliberate and intentional preservation of skin color. It is because I see no room for sentimentalism or superficialities when dealing with fundamental values.

All of you put a great deal of importance in preserving skin color. So much so that you allow it to dictate something as fundamental as whom you choose to marry and have children with. So what is it that is so important that you must hold this superficial aspect as a fundamental value?

For me (I can't speak for Scott or Jefferiah) attraction is *not* a fundamental value. My values and beliefs are things that I have put a great deal of thought into. They're ideas that I have been developing and shaping and adjusting for my entire life. They are things that I have invested a great deal of thought into, and they're based on my most rational and sober reflections.

Attraction? For me, it could not be more opposite to "values" and "beliefs". Attraction and love, for me, are not rational or thoughtful processes. They're completely the opposite. They are the result of factors that are beyond the control of my rational mind. They just happen. I don't think anybody who considers attraction or love to be the result of "fundamental values" actually understands the emotions he's speaking of.

I have had a monogamous relationship with my special guy for over 6 years. And at such time as we decide we're ready we will be having children together. Yes, white children, as he is caucasian. Blond? Blue-eyed? As those are recessive traits and he has dark hair and brown eyes, the odds of my having blond or blue-eyed children is rather low. (If I had been serious about having blond kids, I would have picked someone else. It wasn't actually something I gave any consideration to.)

I picked him out, and I pursued him because I had a strong sense that this was what I had always wanted. I did not come to that conclusion after philosophical chats or a rational examination of his bank-book and future earnings potential. I knew as soon as I saw him, and before we'd even spoken, that this was a man I needed to meet. Not rational. Not an issue of values. Just a powerful emotional sense based on visual stimulus.

What visual cues did I sense from him that caught my attention? I honestly can't say.

He's tall and athletic, and watching him run for the bus I was waiting on made me feel all squishy inside. Certainly his dress and deportment made him stand out in a positive way. Is that it? I doubt it. I suspect there are other factors hard-wired into our brains that help us choose likely mates in the same way that females of other species are interested in the males with the healthiest horns (for instance.)

Wouldn't it be rather arrogant of us to presume to have weeded all of that animal attraction stuff out of our human minds? Wouldn't it be conceit to pretend that choose mates strictly on the content of their character and not physical appeal? And wouldn't it be presumptuous of us to assume we know everything that goes on inside our minds when we're choosing a prospective mate?

I think it would be extremely presumptuous to claim that race and skin and hair don't factor into peoples' choice of mate, whether consciously or subconsciously.

I can understand why Kimmy would want blond children. After all she wouldn't want her kids to be smarter than her....

Ooh, maximum burnage.

Hey, Posit, have you heard that children inherit their intelligence from their mothers?

If that's true, then whatever color my kids' hair winds up being, and whether they're smarter than me or not, they'll wind up a hell of a lot smarter than you.

-k

[kimmy]

I don't see one good, or even reasonable arguemnt against preserving caucasians.

Again. Walk down Sherbourne St. or a local trailer park. Are they more deserving of special treatment than a hard working, law abiding Chinese family?

Where has anybody advocated for special treatment?

-k

[Posit]

This is pure hate filled racism. If anyone were to say the same thing about Blacks or about you, you'd be snivelling and shrieking in outrage. WTF is wrong with you?

Racist against blonds? Now I know you must be blond too! But really you can't be racist against yourself.....except for blonds...right?

The racism comes from YOU. The minute that you talk about preserving the caucas as something separate, you have divided people alone racial lines. THAT is racism (or in you case bigotry, since you are aware of your prejudice but assert your racism anyway).

Hey, Posit, have you heard that children inherit their intelligence from their mothers?

Kimmy, I suppose that is true. So what you are really telling us is that YOUR mother was blond too. I notice the blond genetic flaw in your tone. I'm surprised that you wouldn't want to break that genetic inferiority and marry out of your gene pool. However, I do understand your dilemma....no one wants to be accused as being the first to marry out of your family.

Edited July 15, 2007 by Posit

[marcinmoka]

Where has anybody advocated for special treatment?

Right here.

And the thought of giving the Trailer Park crowd additional incentives to reproduce irks me.

N.B - While I do support the expansion of free and/or affordable daycares, programs such as free university tuition would be disastrous for the university system itself, but this is a topic for another day.

[Argus]

Simple. They are nothing special. As I stated earlier, I may be biased since I am surrounded by "White Trash", but I see nothing "caucasianess" on it's own as nothing special, nothing worth getting your panties in a whirl. Protecting "Johnny Methhead & Co." for the simple fact he and his family are white is futile.

Would it be acceptable for me to say that protecting natives is pointless as I'm surrounded by native trash, and see no purpose in protecting "Running Beer" and his cousin "Crazy Gluehead" simply because they are natives?

Or would that considered racist?

[Argus]

I can understand why Kimmy would want blond children. After all she wouldn't want her kids to be smarter than her.....

IN the end those arguing for protection of the caucas are just superficial egoists. They are more concerned about looks and marinating the pure line than they are about humanity, or genetics. I mean these people are intent on preserving small penis shrimps. I mean real men are descendants of mixed cultures and when the white boys are out trying to polish their whiteness, the rest of us are making babies with their wives.

I find it interesting that those on this thread most outraged at the prospect of racism reveal an innate racism which they apparently feel comfortable enough to expose to the rest of us.

Why is it okay for you to be a racist, Posit, as you obviously are, but bad for other people to be racists?

[ScottSA]

This is pure hate filled racism. If anyone were to say the same thing about Blacks or about you, you'd be snivelling and shrieking in outrage. WTF is wrong with you?

Racist against blonds? Now I know you must be blond too! But really you can't be racist against yourself.....except for blonds...right?

No, the racism I'm refering to is the following hate filled spew. At least it would be a hate filled spew if you made any sense at all. You seem to be on about how it has nothing to do with genetics and all about ego and marinating the line and preserving shrimp, but the hate is hard to miss even if the expression of it is unintelligible:

IN the end those arguing for protection of the caucas are just superficial egoists. They are more concerned about looks and marinating the pure line than they are about humanity, or genetics. I mean these people are intent on preserving small penis shrimps. I mean real men are descendants of mixed cultures and when the white boys are out trying to polish their whiteness, the rest of us are making babies with their wives.

Of course few pure whites ever get dates unless you want to count pouring beer on their hands trying to get their dates drunk......

The racism comes from YOU. The minute that you talk about preserving the caucas as something separate, you have divided people alone racial lines.

I think you're missing something rather obvious here. We already are divided along racial lines. That's why I have more or less whitish skin and Jesse Jackson has brownish skin. I'm not sure what Michael Jackson's excuse is, but Jesse is at perfect liberty to marry a Black woman, have Black kids, continue his career based on race-baiting, all the while secure in the knowledge that no one will call him racist. But let a caucasian dare suggest that caucasianhood is worthy of preservation, and all of a sudden, great belches of hypocritical santimonious outrage fill the room.

Do you not even begin to glimpse how silly you are being here?

Hey, Posit, have you heard that children inherit their intelligence from their mothers?

Kimmy, I suppose that is true. So what you are really telling us is that YOUR mother was blond too. I notice the blond genetic flaw in your tone. I'm surprised that you wouldn't want to break that genetic inferiority and marry out of your gene pool. However, I do understand your dilemma....no one wants to be accused as being the first to marry out of your family.

And this. What is this? Kimmy could lose half her cortex in an industrial meatgrinding accident and she'd still be smarter than you. WTF?

Edited July 15, 2007 by ScottSA

[marcinmoka]

Would it be acceptable for me to say that protecting natives is pointless as I'm surrounded by native trash, and see no purpose in protecting "Running Beer" and his cousin "Crazy Gluehead" simply because they are natives?

Again. Protect those who deserve it. Actively encouraging Meth Addicts or Alcoholics (in other words, those blatantly not suitable to raise children in adequate conditions) of "ANY RACE" or ethnicity to have children is not the brightest idea.

Let the incentives be based on suitability, and let them go out to those worthy, whatever "race" they hail from.

Edited July 15, 2007 by marcinmoka

[ScottSA]

Would it be acceptable for me to say that protecting natives is pointless as I'm surrounded by native trash, and see no purpose in protecting "Running Beer" and his cousin "Crazy Gluehead" simply because they are natives?

Again. Protect those who deserve it. Actively encouraging Meth Addicts or Alcoholics (in other words, those blatantly not suitable to raise children in adequate conditions) of "ANY RACE" or ethnicity to have children is not the brightest idea.

Let the incentives be based on merit, and let them go out to those worthy, whatever "race" they hail from.

This is a completely different issue. I take it you have backed away from attacking all whites on the basis of the "white trash" you know, and have moved on to merit-based procreation? I think you're going to find yourself neck deep in conceptual quicksand if you keep trundling along that path for very much longer, so why don't we return to your specific objections to me wanting to preserve the Caucasian race? Do you have any?

[jefferiah]

Would it be acceptable for me to say that protecting natives is pointless as I'm surrounded by native trash, and see no purpose in protecting "Running Beer" and his cousin "Crazy Gluehead" simply because they are natives?

Again. Protect those who deserve it. Actively encouraging Meth Addicts or Alcoholics (in other words, those blatantly not suitable to raise children in adequate conditions) of "ANY RACE" or ethnicity to have children is not the brightest idea.

Let the incentives be based on suitability, and let them go out to those worthy, whatever "race" they hail from.

Meth Addicts or Alcoholics are ideas of something undesirable, Marcinmoka, when it comes to parenting perhaps. But a race does not compare. Neither is a race better or worse than any other, so while it might do no particular benefit to preserve a race as you see it, the fact that someone chooses to do it should not cause you any great distress (like the man who likes to put up a meaningless Christmas tree) because it is also not going to have any bad effect----unless of course you are the racist and you believe white people are bad?

[jefferiah]

Another thing I might add is that for Kimmy or Scott the idea of finding a person of the same race to be a partner and procreate with does not necessarily suggest that they are bending over backwards to indulge some superficiality. We are all allowed to indulge superficialities to the point where they are not compulsions and making our lives difficult. I am sure that there are enough reasonable white men for Kimmy and reasonable white women for Scott that neither should really be contorting themselves and there lifestyles over a superficiliaty.

Take for instance two men who like to wear blue shirts.

They both always buy blue shirts at the store.

Now one day they both lose their blue shirts. (They only own one shirt at a given time)

They both head down to the blue shirt store to buy some clothes.

The blue shirt store is closed, but across the street the red shirt store is opened.

One man says to himself "well you know I know there is no meaning really to blue shirts but i do like to wear them anyway, but what the hay ill go buy a red shirt"

The other man says "I need my blue shirts". And then breaks into the blue shirt store.

The first guy is not really doing anything bad in indulging a superficiality, cuz he is only doing it within reason, and beyond that he understands that there is really no meaning to blue shirts but that there is no reason not to buy them when they are readily available and thats what he wants.

[kimmy]

Kimmy, I suppose that is true. So what you are really telling us is that YOUR mother was blond too. I notice the blond genetic flaw in your tone. I'm surprised that you wouldn't want to break that genetic inferiority and marry out of your gene pool. However, I do understand your dilemma....no one wants to be accused as being the first to marry out of your family.

Genetic inferiority? You've determined that I'm genetically inferior? Based on hair-color?

This says far more about your intellect than it does about mine.

I notice the blond genetic flaw in your tone.

That's not a genetic flaw. But I can understand why my words might seem strange to you. That's because they're expressive and concise. They can convey humour or logic, science or emotion, all with clarity and precision. This is what the English language can be in the hands of an expert. Don't despair, perhaps someday you too will be able to express yourself with this kind of grace and power. My suggestion would be to keep reading as much Kimmy as you can, to watch my artistry in action, and see the beauty of language at the command of someone who knows how to use it. Good luck to you, my little friend.

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As I said earlier, the thing I've found most interesting about this thread is the angry or accusatory tone of some of the responses. From Hollus and his "you do not see the beauty of other skin tones!" to Stignasty's "Stormfront" and Xman's "Aryans!" the finger-pointing has been prominent. And now Posit has joined the fray, trying to disrupt things with trolling, trash-talk and by flinging about that most trite and stale of all ethnic stereotypes, the dumb blonde.

Another thing I noticed was the similarity between the two following posts, one just recently by Posit, and one from early in the thread by Xman:

IN the end those arguing for protection of the caucas are just superficial egoists. They are more concerned about looks and marinating the pure line than they are about humanity, or genetics. I mean these people are intent on preserving small penis shrimps. I mean real men are descendants of mixed cultures and when the white boys are out trying to polish their whiteness, the rest of us are making babies with their wives.

I guess in light of your concerns, the white man failed by selling out and accepting the Trojan horse of immigration. Give it ten years or so, and every little blonde hottie will be with something black or brown. And if not, the others will be fantasizing about it. Now deal with your response to that.

Interesting. One wonders whether there might be some deeper ...frustration... at the heart of these responses.

-k

[sharkman]

Looking at the larger question, I suppose in history races rise and fall. Why did the Roman Empire fall? Why did the Persians? There may be a different reason for each case, and I don't know what theories float around about the wane of Caucasian influence, but it does seem to be occuring.

In Canada, our problem seems to at least partly be related to our birth rate. I've read that the rise of the industrial age and subsequent wealth seemed to have a negative impact on population growth. Some suggest that two income families coupled with the need for more education (pushing marriage or at least starting a family off longer) also have a negative impact on population growth. of course, the introduction of convenience abortions and the pill have not helped. My mother has a different theory. In comparison to her generation, most of us are far more selfish, putting the responsibilities of family last. But this is probably only a symptom of why caucasian influence is lessoning.

So, who's on the rise to take our place, China?

Edited July 15, 2007 by sharkman

[marcinmoka]

I take it you have backed away from attacking all whites on the basis of the "white trash" you know, and have moved on to merit-based procreation?

Scott, your comment about your fear of being treated badly as a minority was a valid one and I was satisfied. But......

Attack whites? You cannot be serious? Because I don't want to group all Caucasians under one banner, or protect all white folk more than any other folk does not mean I am attacking them. However, now it is you who is attributing comments to myself. I have always supported a merit based incentive program, but I guess even that is beyond you.

I won't even bother. On that note, I forfeit. By touting equality guess I am but a race traitor brainwashed by the godless-hippie-pinko-liberal-commie-islamofascist-homosexual Hollywood elite. What do I know.

[Moxie]

It's nice to see some posters are trying to partake of an adult conversation. The few that jump in and post insulting posts, well their lack of intellect is obvious. To equate protecting "White Culture" as racists is assine, it's another myth perpetrated by the flaky left in Canada. How is it offensive to be proud of one's race and culture?? It's okay for Blacks to be proud of their history and Culture in Canada, why isn't that racists against whites, Asian, Native, Germanic etc?? The fact that a FEW small minds see this as an attack on other races is the first clue to me that they want this conversation shut down and I ask myself why? I believe it's another example of the PCed, knee dippers trying to mute the majority less we offend those who won't be offended but as the left/left always does they stick their big ole stinky foot in their mouths because they are jackasses of the highest order.

QUOTE(Posit @ Jul 14 2007, 08:25 PM)

IN the end those arguing for protection of the caucas are just superficial egoists. They are more concerned about looks and marinating the pure line than they are about humanity, or genetics. I mean these people are intent on preserving small penis shrimps. I mean real men are descendants of mixed cultures and when the white boys are out trying to polish their whiteness, the rest of us are making babies with their wives.

Do you share the same contempt for Blacks who consider blacks who date white women sell outs? You are by far the worst racists I've ever came across on the net. In fact you are boarding crossing the line regarding hate laws. My goodness, you really hate white people don't you. I hate to break it to you ole hater of other races not your own but your leftest agenda is stinking up this thread. We are the majority in Canada, silent at the moment but when we rear our ugly white heads because the left have pandered to the minority groups for the VOTE to the exclustion of the majority you shall see how sick and tired of your snot and bawling "RACISTS" at anyone who doesn't share your twisted ethos of "Anything goes no perversion to large". You've done enough harm to this country and some of us have had enough of looking at the snot hanging from your hateful noses. Canadian Culture will survive dispite hateful haters like yourself.

QUOTE(Xman @ Jul 10 2007, 04:27 PM)

I guess in light of your concerns, the white man failed by selling out and accepting the Trojan horse of immigration. Give it ten years or so, and every little blonde hottie will be with something black or brown. And if not, the others will be fantasizing about it. Now deal with your response to that.

[color=#FF0000]Well Xman how do you ascertain that all immigrants henceforth will be persons of color? Do you have the inside track at Immigration their Wilbur? Canada is made up of many groups that are included in the White Race, English, Irish, Scotish, Welsh, German, Polish, the list is endless. The very foundation of Canadian Culture and they are still immigrating to Canada because the above countries let the leftest haters such as you take away their identity and culture lest they offend new immigrants. You've already lost the battle in Canada no one with two cells of grey matter believes that Multiculture works. It's overrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Here's a tissue.

Being proud of one's White Canadian Culture isn't racists, it's called cultural pride. We will not remain silent while the true racist shove their agenda of Multiculture down our throats. We will not be subjugated into silence with your verbal abuse anymore.

[jefferiah]

I take it you have backed away from attacking all whites on the basis of the "white trash" you know, and have moved on to merit-based procreation?

Scott, your comment about your fear of being treated badly as a minority was a valid one and I was satisfied. But......

Attack whites? You cannot be serious? Because I don't want to group all Caucasians under one banner, or protect all white folk more than any other folk does not mean I am attacking them. However, now it is you who is attributing comments to myself. I have always supported a merit based incentive program, but I guess even that is beyond you.

I won't even bother. On that note, I forfeit. By touting equality guess I am but a race traitor brainwashed by the godless-hippie-pinko-liberal-commie-islamofascist-homosexual Hollywood elite. What do I know.

We understand that, Marcinmoka. Do you understand that Kimmy wanting to keep blondes in existence is not necessarily demoting equality, either? Is equality only possible by being one color? It is certainly not impossible. But still.....

[marcinmoka]

Do you understand that Kimmy wanting to keep blondes in existence is not necessarily demoting equality, either

Was this a rhetorical question? Afterall, why would I want to impose restrictions on the physiological features of her children. If she wants to have blond children, who are we to dictate what is right or wrong. My partner and I often discuss what traits we would want in our own children. This is a free country. Celebrate it.

On the flipside, it is the extrapolation of these policies on a wider scale which unnerve me, especially keeping in mind my place of birth and my physiology as it brings back shadowy historical events and the fear that this could bring us down a slippery slope.

[jefferiah]

Do you understand that Kimmy wanting to keep blondes in existence is not necessarily demoting equality, either

Was this a rhetorical question? Afterall, why would I want to impose restrictions on the physiological features of her children. If she wants to have blond children, who are we to dictate what is right or wrong. My partner and I often discuss what traits we would want in our own children. This is a free country. Celebrate it.

On the flipside, it is the extrapolation of these policies on a wider scale which unnerve me, especially keeping in mind my place of birth and my physiology as it brings back shadowy historical events and the fear that this could bring us down a slippery slope.

I can understand that concern. But I honestly dont think they are planning to attack anyone else, or that preserving blondes is about preserving some superior genetic lineage....just the idea that "hey someday there might be no blondes left". I am not blonde, but I would like there to be blondes in the future. I am not concerned about it happening, but oh well.

Yes, hmmm, I am sure someone like Hitler would have had this desire in common with Kimmy, but that desire in itself and the overall motivations may not be entirely the same. A is not necessarily B.

[Bonam]

Where has anybody advocated for special treatment?

Right here.

And the thought of giving the Trailer Park crowd additional incentives to reproduce irks me.

Where do you see any recommendation for "special treatment" in that post? It would clearly apply to all citizens.

[marcinmoka]

My apologies Bonam.

In retrospect, I guess it did apply to ALL citizens. I was just unclear at the time about your views because of a sentence which caught my eye.

... and would thus ensure the continued survival of Caucasians as a distinct race.

Edited July 16, 2007 by marcinmoka

[ScottSA]

I take it you have backed away from attacking all whites on the basis of the "white trash" you know, and have moved on to merit-based procreation?

Scott, your comment about your fear of being treated badly as a minority was a valid one and I was satisfied. But......

Attack whites? You cannot be serious? Because I don't want to group all Caucasians under one banner, or protect all white folk more than any other folk does not mean I am attacking them. However, now it is you who is attributing comments to myself. I have always supported a merit based incentive program, but I guess even that is beyond you.

I may have misattributed something to you amid the hysterical rants coming from various posters, and if so, I'm sorry.

But lets look a bit closer to what you are saying. Two things stand out. The first, a minor rhetorical point. You are sliding the question a bit to the south when you suggest that I want to "...protect all white folk more than any other folk..." I never said that. How could you possible impute from anything that I've said that I want to protect caucasians "more" than another group?

The second is profoundly philosophical, and it's almost scary. You suggest that "we", presumably refering to the government, should get involved with who procreates with whom. It doesn't matter what basis is used; merit, race, or number of toes; neither the government nor "we" in any form should have the right to come within 10,000 miles of that question. Not through coercion, not through "incentives", and not through any other means of social engineering.