Anndy Wang Posted June 14, 2007 Report Posted June 14, 2007 I've sent all the same emails with full details and pics to all the Chinese government departments and medias since May. 22nd. but no one stand out to save us ! My 3 brothers are still in prison , 25 days till now ！Lost contact with all our family members for such a long time , no one permited to meet them ! How venomous the Chinse government wolves are ! The 3 lawyers my family employed hasn't done anything good to us but have charged us RMB200,000 since the very beginning ! Not returned till now ! They are always cheating and threating us together with the government wolves ! My family members are " breaking our boilers and sell iron " to look for " relationship " to save my 3 brothers ! You know everything happen after the wolves have put out 3 brothers in such a humanless prison and forbidden anyone to meet or contact them !You know our feelings in such a situation ?Maybe only the Party of the PRC can treat people so insidiously ??? Hitler is so venomous but he is finally killed , why not such a Chinese wolve group ??? I hope the foreigners can come immediately and kill all the Chinese government wolves !!! And I'm sure MOST OF the Chinese people won't protect the WOLVES !!! Why the Chinese government never thought of treating the people FAIRLY ??? Could their cheating , locking , intrigue , and forcing make China Safe and Peacefull forever ??? I'm still asking for help from the Chinese government , but 24 days passed with everything coming worse and worse only !!! Anndy from www.firstsing.com Quote
BC_chick Posted June 14, 2007 Report Posted June 14, 2007 Sorry, no oil in China. No liberation for you. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
August1991 Posted June 14, 2007 Report Posted June 14, 2007 Sorry, no oil in China. No liberation for you.Huh? I think you are dead wrong. Many Chinese are now "liberated" because of Chinese leadership, and what America has always stood for: the freedom to choose.I'll now turn my argument over to a famous Liberal: Ignatieff praised China for improving the economic and social rights of their citizens over the last decade."You have to give them credit for a fact not enough Canadians, I think, recognize which is over the last 10 years, the most important human-rights advance in the world has been the hundreds of millions of Chinese lifted out of absolute poverty," Ignatieff said. CBCMany more people suffered under Mao Tse-Tung than under Deng Tsiao-Ping. There are fewer tragic injustices now than in the past, and if things continue, there will be fewer in the future. Many millions now have choices that their parents never had. For better or worse, mainland China has chosen the Confucious path of Lee Kuan Yew. Quote
betsy Posted June 14, 2007 Report Posted June 14, 2007 I've sent all the same emails with full details and pics to all the Chinese government departments and medias since May. 22nd. but no one stand out to save us !My 3 brothers are still in prison , 25 days till now ！Lost contact with all our family members for such a long time , no one permited to meet them ! How venomous the Chinse government wolves are ! The 3 lawyers my family employed hasn't done anything good to us but have charged us RMB200,000 since the very beginning ! Not returned till now ! They are always cheating and threating us together with the government wolves ! My family members are " breaking our boilers and sell iron " to look for " relationship " to save my 3 brothers ! You know everything happen after the wolves have put out 3 brothers in such a humanless prison and forbidden anyone to meet or contact them !You know our feelings in such a situation ?Maybe only the Party of the PRC can treat people so insidiously ??? Hitler is so venomous but he is finally killed , why not such a Chinese wolve group ??? I hope the foreigners can come immediately and kill all the Chinese government wolves !!! And I'm sure MOST OF the Chinese people won't protect the WOLVES !!! Why the Chinese government never thought of treating the people FAIRLY ??? Could their cheating , locking , intrigue , and forcing make China Safe and Peacefull forever ??? I'm still asking for help from the Chinese government , but 24 days passed with everything coming worse and worse only !!! Anndy from www.firstsing.com I feel sorry for your brothers and for you and family...for what you must be going through right now. Hopefully everything will turn out right in the end. As for killing the governments, I guess it's not as simple as that. First of all, if ever Bush and other democratic western leaders do decide to take bold actions...I'm sure that a lot of those same people bemoaning the violations of human rights would be the first ones to bash Bush and company for going in there. All the more if China happens to have oil. No immediate liberation for you, because western governments have to take the shrill protesters into grave consideration(whether they be illogical or unreasonable), not to mention other consequences that might be detrimental to everyone. Remember, this side of the world dragged its heels in tackling Hitler. Your best bet would be to have a Democrat sitting as president....and pray for another Lewinski. Distractions seem to be quite an acceptable and fair reason for bombing cities, and perhaps, going into war. AND most importantly, get Hollywood to get in on the act. That definitely ought to do it, if nothing else! At least, it seems there has been some improvements in your country's condition. I'm basing my opinion from the documentary I've seen about China on tv recently (in their preparation for the Olympics)....although I don't know how much of it is true since it was aired on the CBC. Anyway, welcome to the forum. Quote
betsy Posted June 14, 2007 Report Posted June 14, 2007 Another option is to encourage everyone to come to Canada. The best timing will be when a Liberal Prime Minister is in power. Immigration will be so open. From here, they can easily find their way into the USA should they want. A Democrat president and a Liberal Prime Minister is a dream come true. Tell everyone to leave China. Use the magic word "refugee" or "asylum". Hey, the government cannot just send you back. There is a long legal process to go through, and in the meantime, it's easy to go underground and be lost among the population. Just the sheer numbers alone of your population...the same numbers that causes governments to gape in awe at the possibilities of doing commerce with you....can, and will work for you. Hordes of Chinese refugees/asylum seekers pouring in will frighten everyone. Then, most likely the world will scramble to do something to stop the flow. They'll be more likely to tackle the evil governments of China. Quote
BC_chick Posted June 14, 2007 Report Posted June 14, 2007 August, first, I was talking about an Iraq-style liberation. Second, you took that post way too seriously. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
jbg Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Sorry, no oil in China. No liberation for you.Huh? I think you are dead wrong. Many Chinese are now "liberated" because of Chinese leadership, and what America has always stood for: the freedom to choose.I'll now turn my argument over to a famous Liberal: Ignatieff praised China for improving the economic and social rights of their citizens over the last decade."You have to give them credit for a fact not enough Canadians, I think, recognize which is over the last 10 years, the most important human-rights advance in the world has been the hundreds of millions of Chinese lifted out of absolute poverty," Ignatieff said. CBCMany more people suffered under Mao Tse-Tung than under Deng Tsiao-Ping. There are fewer tragic injustices now than in the past, and if things continue, there will be fewer in the future. Many millions now have choices that their parents never had. For better or worse, mainland China has chosen the Confucious path of Lee Kuan Yew. Yes, they've made a "great leap forward" in their "cultural revolution". Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Another option is to encourage everyone to come to Canada. The best timing will be when a Liberal Prime Minister is in power. Immigration will be so open. From here, they can easily find their way into the USA should they want. A Democrat president and a Liberal Prime Minister is a dream come true.Tell everyone to leave China. Use the magic word "refugee" or "asylum". Hey, the government cannot just send you back. There is a long legal process to go through, and in the meantime, it's easy to go underground and be lost among the population. Just the sheer numbers alone of your population...the same numbers that causes governments to gape in awe at the possibilities of doing commerce with you....can, and will work for you. Hordes of Chinese refugees/asylum seekers pouring in will frighten everyone. Then, most likely the world will scramble to do something to stop the flow. They'll be more likely to tackle the evil governments of China. No no no. The Liberals want a far more malicious group of immigrants than Chinese. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
ScottSA Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Another option is to encourage everyone to come to Canada. The best timing will be when a Liberal Prime Minister is in power. Immigration will be so open. From here, they can easily find their way into the USA should they want. A Democrat president and a Liberal Prime Minister is a dream come true. Tell everyone to leave China. Use the magic word "refugee" or "asylum". Hey, the government cannot just send you back. There is a long legal process to go through, and in the meantime, it's easy to go underground and be lost among the population. Just the sheer numbers alone of your population...the same numbers that causes governments to gape in awe at the possibilities of doing commerce with you....can, and will work for you. Hordes of Chinese refugees/asylum seekers pouring in will frighten everyone. Then, most likely the world will scramble to do something to stop the flow. They'll be more likely to tackle the evil governments of China. No no no. The Liberals want a far more malicious group of immigrants than Chinese. Yes, I hear some New Guinea tribes are being persecuted for their religious beliefs, which happen to involve head hunting. They have been moved to near the top of the list, just under persecuted Congolese AIDS ridden homosexuals. Quote
jbg Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 Yes, I hear some New Guinea tribes are being persecuted for their religious beliefs, which happen to involve head hunting. They have been moved to near the top of the list, just under persecuted Congolese AIDS ridden homosexuals.No, different kind of head cutters. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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