New Round of Tory Attack Ads

[Who's Doing What?]

You posted this within 43 minutes of the link going up on Yahoo.

Are you being paid to monitor Web sites for any news about the Conservatives and post it with the most negative headline possible on MLW?

You know the exact time the link went up on the internet. Are you being paid to monitor Websites?

[Who's Doing What?]

Well, beer and popcorn is how we spend our tory daycare stipend..(actually, veal shank and chianti)...with one under 4 and not in daycare....why not?

My buddy is banking his portion of OUR TAXES so his son can buy a pickup truck in 16 years.

I just hope Junior will do a few chores for me with his new set of wheels.

[Guest coot]

My buddy is banking his portion of OUR TAXES so his son can buy a pickup truck in 16 years.

Is that the hillbilly equivalent to a college education?

[Who's Doing What?]

My buddy is banking his portion of OUR TAXES so his son can buy a pickup truck in 16 years.

Is that the hillbilly equivalent to a college education?

lmao Hillbilly is an understatement.

[Topaz]

Harper will NEVER get a majority government and he knows that. IF it wasn't for him joining up with the PC's, he NEVER be PM now!! He's done too many things to peeve off the majority of Canadians and the elections in PEI this past week proves it! He has the worst government as far as acting and leading the govt in Parliament. He always the first to come out with smart-as remarks about the opposition, which starts all the nastiness!!! I watched Duffy the other day and there was Van Loon saying that it was the Libs fault for not getting this one bill through the house and then Goodale sitting beside himself said that was an alright lie. Van Loon is there smiling his as off because he knew it wasn't true, but was trying to spin it!!

[jdobbin]

When will we see some of the same in Harper? The last time I got a flyer in the mail with his achievements was months before the convention.... since then I've seen nothing but Dion-bashing accounting for Harper "achievements.'

They even bash questions on behalf of soldiers' funerals by attacking Liberals for even asking the question of families coming forward cap in hand.

[M.Dancer]

My buddy is banking his portion of OUR TAXES so his son can buy a pickup truck in 16 years.

Is that the hillbilly equivalent to a college education?

You know, the 100 per month in an RESP would be smart for most people.....

[diablo]

With the present polls it looks like a minority. Once Dion starts campaigning it will be a majority.

Rae would have been handed a safe seat in Toronto. If he still wants the job he should ask for it. Bennet isn't doing anything particularly useful with hers......

I'll let Rae know he has your vote.

I still don't believe that Harper has it yet to win and if he thought so himself, he would have called an election this spring.

I think Afghanistan is going to continue to make Canadians hesitate in giving Harper a majority.

[runningdog]

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/070529/national/tory_ads

It looks like the Tories have their new talking points.

A couple of bad weeks followed by a lawsuit - what to do, what to do? Oh yeah, the obvious - hop on a plane for a non-photo op and start kicking the opposition before anyone gets any funny ideas.

Truly sad when a government can't speak on its own merit and resorts simply to belittling the opposition to make themselves seem good. Even with all the "scary scary scary" campaign allegations against the Liberals in 06 they still did spend a lot of time on their own achievements, job creations, reducing debts, etc etc.

When will we see some of the same in Harper? The last time I got a flyer in the mail with his achievements was months before the convention.... since then I've seen nothing but Dion-bashing accounting for Harper "achievements.'

Well said.

[diablo]

Strange how conservatives like to jump the gun.All opinion polls taken in May 2007 show the Liberals with a slim lead.Only Conservative polls differ.If those polls ring true Harper has yet to win another minority before he thinks of a majority.

I have a question to you about this man Harper who claims to govern for all Canadians.According to my Conservative MP,they are discussing the lowering of buisness tax.They will get the money for that by passing it along in personal income tax hikes to low and middle income groups.

Personaly,I don`t want my buisness tax reduced by 1 or 2% if those groups have to make up the difference.

I voted for change in 2006 but decisions like this can swing me back to Liberal.

[jdobbin]

Canwest story about the ads and an opinion of an analyst at the University of Calgary.

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news...90-c484b550d50a

But David Taras, an expert in political communication at the University of Calgary, doubts whether the ads will have much impact on Canadians as they fire up their barbecues for the summer.

"It's not like people go to bed at night thinking about Senate reform," he said. "I get the sense they're barking up the wrong tree."

Even worse, the ads could elicit a backlash from Canadians, who have become accustomed to U.S.-style attack ads but might recoil from a relentlessly negative strategy, said Taras.

I haven't seen the ads. Unless they are showing them during hockey play-offs, many people won't see them. Certainly not as many women will see them if they are on just during hockey. Maybe not many men either if they are headed to the kitchen to get a beer.

[M.Dancer]

I have a question to you about this man Harper who claims to govern for all Canadians.

What? He wasn't elected?

[jdobbin]

Don Martin says that mocking Dion's looks eventually makes the Conservatives looked mean spirited.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/columni...ed-148f30d0cca3

There comes a point where the kick-me fun of mocking Mr. Dion becomes a public confirmation of Conservative mean-spiritedness. The latest attack ad campaign could be the sound of that line being crossed. There was arguably a legitimate political strategy in the initial commercial blitz earlier this year as the Conservatives heaped ridicule on Mr. Dion before he had the chance to create a preferred positive image.

[Michael Bluth]

Don Martin says that mocking Dion's looks eventually makes the Conservatives looked mean spirited.

Hopefully that eventually is after the next election.

Seriously though, the Kyoto the Dog blog on the site is a little weak.

[Vancouver King]

Don Martin says that mocking Dion's looks eventually makes the Conservatives looked mean spirited.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/columni...ed-148f30d0cca3

There comes a point where the kick-me fun of mocking Mr. Dion becomes a public confirmation of Conservative mean-spiritedness. The latest attack ad campaign could be the sound of that line being crossed. There was arguably a legitimate political strategy in the initial commercial blitz earlier this year as the Conservatives heaped ridicule on Mr. Dion before he had the chance to create a preferred positive image.

All the evidence, ie. polling numbers, shows the first round was a waste of Conservative cash. What strange strategy, follow a first round that produced negligible results with another attempt to define Dion that threatens to backfire and paint Tories as just plain mean.

[Michael Bluth]

All the evidence, ie. polling numbers, shows the first round was a waste of Conservative cash. What strange strategy, follow a first round that produced neglible results with another attempt to define Dion that threatens to backfire and paint Tories as just plain mean.

Again with this non-existent evidence?

Say what you will in judging Conservative strategy. But Harper proved in the last election he is a master strategist if nothing else.

Talking about SSM the day after the writ was dropped? At the time everybody thought it was strange strategy, but it worked.

Not attacking the Liberals 24/7 during the campaign on Gomery? At the time everybody thought it was strange strategy, but it worked.

My gut tells me that the negative ads will only take place in the pre-writ period. Once the campaign starts it's going to be all policy again.

As for wasting cash. The Conservatives have gobs of cash, so the idea they aer wasting it needs to be looked at in the light of their comparative financial resources.

[noahbody]

Don Martin says that mocking Dion's looks eventually makes the Conservatives looked mean spirited.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/columni...ed-148f30d0cca3

Calling the Conservative Communications Team "bonehead wizards" is pretty much hitting the nail on the head. Terrible advertising strategy. Not because they're mean-spirited, but because the Tories are leading a minority government where cooperation is essential.

A good advertising strategy would have asked those who are unhappy to the crime bill is being held up to write their MP or senator.

[Shakeyhands]

Say what you will in judging Conservative strategy. But Harper proved in the last election he is a master strategist if nothing else.

Michael, come on, seriously now. The CPC could have run a half legged deaf mute leper and he/she would have won the last election, the minority win had nothing to do with anything Harper did or didn't do, all he had to do was say sponsership or culture of entitlement and the electorate was his, well 30 something percent anyway..

Even the staunchest CPC supporter can see this, can' they?????

[M.Dancer]

Say what you will in judging Conservative strategy. But Harper proved in the last election he is a master strategist if nothing else.

Michael, come on, seriously now. The CPC could have run a half legged deaf mute leper and he/she would have won the last election, the minority win had nothing to do with anything Harper did or didn't do, all he had to do was say sponsership or culture of entitlement and the electorate was his, well 30 something percent anyway..

Even the staunchest CPC supporter can see this, can' they?????

Really...their ads were attrocious and they failed to capitilize on the income trust fiasco that had the hint of scandal....In my opinion winning only a minority (given that they finally made a beachhead in Quebec) was tantamount to a failed campaign.

[Michael Bluth]

Michael, come on, seriously now. The CPC could have run a half legged deaf mute leper and he/she would have won the last election, the minority win had nothing to do with anything Harper did or didn't do, all he had to do was say sponsership or culture of entitlement and the electorate was his, well 30 something percent anyway..

Even the staunchest CPC supporter can see this, can' they?????

Really...their ads were attrocious and they failed to capitilize on the income trust fiasco that had the hint of scandal....In my opinion winning only a minority (given that they finally made a beachhead in Quebec) was tantamount to a failed campaign.

Very much revisionist history?

The Liberals lead throughout the first six weeks of the campaign.

The Conservatives will continue to have to overcome obstacles in any election.

They won the last election because of shrewd choices made by Harper and Liberal gaffes.

Income trust investigation?

Beer and pocorn?

Choice in Childcare?

GST cut?

Take away any of those four issues and, sadly, Paul Martin would probably have squeaked out another minority.

[Higgly]

When I see the word attack, I have to ask myself - is this poster referring to the whine ads I see on TV? I see a lot of whine ads where John Tory or Stevie Harper whine about the Liberals. I'm not sure I would call them attack ads. Really, they are just....

....sniffle....

....whine ads....

Hey John. Can your mommy let you have the car today?

[runningdog]

Don Martin says that mocking Dion's looks eventually makes the Conservatives looked mean spirited.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/columni...ed-148f30d0cca3

There comes a point where the kick-me fun of mocking Mr. Dion becomes a public confirmation of Conservative mean-spiritedness. The latest attack ad campaign could be the sound of that line being crossed. There was arguably a legitimate political strategy in the initial commercial blitz earlier this year as the Conservatives heaped ridicule on Mr. Dion before he had the chance to create a preferred positive image.

All the evidence, ie. polling numbers, shows the first round was a waste of Conservative cash. What strange strategy, follow a first round that produced negligible results with another attempt to define Dion that threatens to backfire and paint Tories as just plain mean.

very Karl Rovian, isn't it? What works down in the States might not work so well in Canada. PMSH would do well to stop calling on this man (Rove) for advice. Then again, when reality is your enemy, why not just bash the opposition? Low class approach from the Cons.

[jdobbin]

A good advertising strategy would have asked those who are unhappy to the crime bill is being held up to write their MP or senator.

They should probably ask the Conservatives why they rejected fast track for the crime bills that was offered by the Liberals.

[Michael Bluth]

very Karl Rovian, isn't it? What works down in the States might not work so well in Canada. PMSH would do well to stop calling on this man (Rove) for advice. Then again, when reality is your enemy, why not just bash the opposition? Low class approach from the Cons.

Any proof Rove was involved in these last ads?

Why is reality the Conservatives enemy?

Low class? Kinda like "we're not making this up"? Or "beer and popcorn?" Or "Barney the Dinosaur? or....

[jdobbin]

The Young Liberals have been posting ads this week. Pretty dumb but that's what it is about it seems.

http://hi.im.a.liberal.ca/video.aspx?ad=crossdressing