Shakeyhands Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 his logic is, ahhhhhhhhhhh, logical. We sure were proud of those brave Afghans as they fought off the might of the CCCP weren't we. On a side note, it must suck for Americans to realize that they have never won any war of any sort of importance on their own. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
kuzadd Posted May 31, 2007 Author Report Posted May 31, 2007 kuzadd, the general's words are so logical, I can't believe anyone in their right mind would argue otherwise. The same people who proudly boast about their fathers and grandfathers fighting the invasion of the Nazis in WWII are quick to label Iraqis terrorists for doing the exact same thing for their country. I thought he was a pretty logical fellow too, it seems to, just make sense. Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
kuzadd Posted May 31, 2007 Author Report Posted May 31, 2007 his logic is, ahhhhhhhhhhh, logical. We sure were proud of those brave Afghans as they fought off the might of the CCCP weren't we.On a side note, it must suck for Americans to realize that they have never won any war of any sort of importance on their own. not only were they brave Afghans ,at that time, fighting there Invaders,, the West armed and trained them, the mujahadeen to fight USSR, which was ok! BUT, now, they are bad, for fighting against their Invaders what has changed? the 'brand' of occupiers. what of the Afghans? The Afghans are still in their OWN country, fighting the occupiers Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 On a side note, it must suck for Americans to realize that they have never won any war of any sort of importance on their own. Interesting...does it "suck" even more to have never won ANY war on your own (e.g. Canada)? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 not only were they brave Afghans ,at that time, fighting there Invaders,, the West armed and trained them, the mujahadeen to fight USSR, which was ok!BUT, now, they are bad, for fighting against their Invaders what has changed? the 'brand' of occupiers. what of the Afghans? The Afghans are still in their OWN country, fighting the occupiers They are also fighting other Afghans who are not "occupiers". They have fought for thousands of years, invader or not. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
M.Dancer Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 The same people who proudly boast about their fathers and grandfathers fighting the invasion of the Nazis in WWII are quick to label Iraqis terrorists for doing the exact same thing for their country. So the nazi resistance rounded up whom ever and decapitated them, planted bombs in schools, parked car bombs in residential areas......car bombs beside grocery markets......murdered woman and children and such........ So in your mind the nazis were the good guys? Interesting....... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Shakeyhands Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 On a side note, it must suck for Americans to realize that they have never won any war of any sort of importance on their own. Interesting...does it "suck" even more to have never won ANY war on your own (e.g. Canada)? Not really... Doesn't bother me in the least, the reality is we don't go running around picking and getting involved in others fights as much either however. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 Not really... Doesn't bother me in the least, the reality is we don't go running around picking and getting involved in others fights as much either however. Really? Let me count "the reality" just off the top of my head: 1. Boer Wars 2. WW1 3. WW2 4. Korean War 5. Cold War 6. Gulf War I 7. Allied Force (Kosovo) 8. War on Terrorism (Op Apollo, Afghanistan, etc.) 9. Numerous other so called "peacekeeping" missions around the world 10. Canadians serving in US military (Civil War, Vietnam, etc.) Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shakeyhands Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 Not really... Doesn't bother me in the least, the reality is we don't go running around picking and getting involved in others fights as much either however. Really? Let me count "the reality" just off the top of my head: 1. Boer Wars 2. WW1 3. WW2 4. Korean War 5. Cold War 6. Gulf War I 7. Allied Force (Kosovo) 8. War on Terrorism (Op Apollo, Afghanistan, etc.) 9. Numerous other so called "peacekeeping" missions around the world 10. Canadians serving in US military (Civil War, Vietnam, etc.) Sorry? Which one of those did Canada pick? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
BC_chick Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 So in your mind the nazis were the good guys? Interesting....... Nope. Not what I was saying at all. Re-read the post S-L-O-W-L-Y. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 1, 2007 Report Posted June 1, 2007 Sorry? Which one of those did Canada pick? All of them. See definition of sovereign state. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
M.Dancer Posted June 1, 2007 Report Posted June 1, 2007 So in your mind the nazis were the good guys? Interesting....... Nope. Not what I was saying at all. Re-read the post S-L-O-W-L-Y. The same people who proudly boast about their fathers and grandfathers fighting the invasion of the Nazis in WWII are quick to label Iraqis terrorists for doing the exact same thing for their country. Let me get this straight, you feel that the resistence who fought the Nazis are no differnt than the terrorists whgo are fighting the US? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Shakeyhands Posted June 1, 2007 Report Posted June 1, 2007 Sorry? Which one of those did Canada pick? All of them. See definition of sovereign state. Pleeease.... stretching it a little aren't we. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 1, 2007 Report Posted June 1, 2007 Pleeease.... stretching it a little aren't we. No stretching at all....much killing and mayhem in far off lands by choice as a sovereign state after 1867...no? Accordingly, and getting this back on topic, are "insurgents" right to kill Canadian Forces found so far away from home? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
BC_chick Posted June 1, 2007 Report Posted June 1, 2007 Let me get this straight, you feel that the resistence who fought the Nazis are no differnt than the terrorists whgo are fighting the US? Getting closer. I was comparing the Nazi invasion to the American invasion (non-existent threats, grandiose ideologies etc) and the resistance to the invasion to those fighting against American forces. And I'm still not clear how you interpreted that to mean I think the Nazis are the good guys. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Shakeyhands Posted June 1, 2007 Report Posted June 1, 2007 Pleeease.... stretching it a little aren't we. No stretching at all....much killing and mayhem in far off lands by choice as a sovereign state after 1867...no? Accordingly, and getting this back on topic, are "insurgents" right to kill Canadian Forces found so far away from home? Its a stretch. Canada's involvment in ALL of the aforementioned wars or conflicts were a result of siding with Allies who were already involved in a conflict, NONE were started by Canada and Canada alone. I'll repeat, it must SUCK for the Americans knowing that they have never won a war of any significance on their own, given how war like they believe they are. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 Its a stretch. Canada's involvment in ALL of the aforementioned wars or conflicts were a result of siding with Allies who were already involved in a conflict, NONE were started by Canada and Canada alone.I'll repeat, it must SUCK for the Americans knowing that they have never won a war of any significance on their own, given how war like they believe they are. Why would it "SUCK"? None were started by the US and the US alone either. You are destroying your own position even as you try to hide Canada's own "war like" history for the Throne and Empire. Besides, Canada preaches to us that multilateralism is good. Your non-response about insurgents killing Canadian Forces is also noted. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 Getting closer. I was comparing the Nazi invasion to the American invasion (non-existent threats, grandiose ideologies etc) and the resistance to the invasion to those fighting against American forces.And I'm still not clear how you interpreted that to mean I think the Nazis are the good guys. "Nazis" notwithstanding, which "invasions" are you comparing? Did Germany have cease fire covenants from a previous war blessed by the UN, or UN resolutions concerning WMD violations and inspections, or a semi-autonomous state supporting the "invasion" (Kurds), or a coalition of other nations participating in the "invasion"? Gee, other than that, it was identical! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
M.Dancer Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 And I'm still not clear how you interpreted that to mean I think the Nazis are the good guys. Because you compare nazis to americans and terrorists to the resistance. In your bizarro world, the good guys murder woman and children and terrorize the civilian population with death squads and kidnappings while the bad guys are trying to bring peace and security. Your false comparison between the restinense and the terrorists is really offensive. Ergo, you support fascism terrorism and death. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
BC_chick Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 In your bizarro world, the good guys murder woman and children and terrorize the civilian population with death squads and kidnappings...... You seriously need to look in the mirror on that one. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
M.Dancer Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 In your bizarro world, the good guys murder woman and children and terrorize the civilian population with death squads and kidnappings...... You seriously need to look in the mirror on that one. You need to read the news....and not the yinfoil hat news, the real news. In Iraq last month around 2000 peoplemwere killed. 99% were killed by insurgents, the vast majority execution style.... ...at least 4 car bombs in crowded markets.....0% militery impotance. These are your heroes of the resistance? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.