Age of Consent Hearings Moving Forward

[geoffrey]

shouldn't the age for consent for anal sex be the same as vaginal sex? why did the CPC choose not to make these two acts equal?

It never was to begin with. There are some compelling arguments (I think) to keep anal sex consent higher... more vunerable people, ect.. I'm not sure if I'm that compelled though to believe all that.

I think they should be equal... I think.

[Shakeyhands]

shouldn't the age for consent for anal sex be the same as vaginal sex? why did the CPC choose not to make these two acts equal?

It never was to begin with. There are some compelling arguments (I think) to keep anal sex consent higher... more vunerable people, ect.. I'm not sure if I'm that compelled though to believe all that.

I think they should be equal... I think.

Interesting. I'm lost as to your more vulnerable people point though.

[guyser]

[As far as health risks go, I don't think itsw any more dangerous, though precautions would need to be taken I suspect.

Some female teenagers think that doing it anally preserves their virginity.

[Shakeyhands]

[As far as health risks go, I don't think itsw any more dangerous, though precautions would need to be taken I suspect.

Some female teenagers think that doing it anally preserves their virginity.

and it does, vaginally anyway. If vaginal virginity is important to them, well I guess thats not a bad choice.

[scribblet]

sounds like you are saying it wouldn't be consensual, if thats the case it wouldn't matter age of consent.

As far as health risks go, I don't think itsw any more dangerous, though precautions would need to be taken I suspect.

I wasn't referring to non consensual, I was just making a comment that to me sodomy is abusing your body. There's nothing in the act referring to other practices.

Personally I'm happy that this is being passed, it is LONG overdue and embarrassing that this has been held back for so long. One has to wonder why anyone would be campaigning to lower the age of consent and not want to protect our most vulnerable from predators.

What's more - the Liberals and NDP LIED through their teeth in their argument against the legislation, claiming it did things it did not in any way do. They should be held to account for opposing this.

[geoffrey]

[As far as health risks go, I don't think itsw any more dangerous, though precautions would need to be taken I suspect.

Some female teenagers think that doing it anally preserves their virginity.

and it does, vaginally anyway. If vaginal virginity is important to them, well I guess thats not a bad choice.

That's a very twisted way of looking at things.

[Shakeyhands]

why Geoffrey? it's factual no?

[Shakeyhands]

sounds like you are saying it wouldn't be consensual, if thats the case it wouldn't matter age of consent.

As far as health risks go, I don't think itsw any more dangerous, though precautions would need to be taken I suspect.

I wasn't referring to non consensual, I was just making a comment that to me sodomy is abusing your body. There's nothing in the act referring to other practices.

Personally I'm happy that this is being passed, it is LONG overdue and embarrassing that this has been held back for so long. One has to wonder why anyone would be campaigning to lower the age of consent and not want to protect our most vulnerable from predators.

What's more - the Liberals and NDP LIED through their teeth in their argument against the legislation, claiming it did things it did not in any way do. They should be held to account for opposing this.

I think its great that you think that consensual anal sex doesn't fit your lifestyle or you way of thinking, to many people however it does, and is in fact really no different that vaginal sex. Why would we discriminate against consenting people of the age of consent being able to one type but not the other?

To me, its like a thinly veiled attack on homosexuals, who as you are no doubt aware, are equipped properly to be the major perveyors of said act.

Trudeau had it right on this one.

I don't necessarily disagree with raising the age of consent, as long as all acts are covered and it does not discriminate against peoples sexual orientation.

I believe we also already have laws in the books to deal with predators. This part of your argument is a straw man.

[geoffrey]

why Geoffrey? it's factual no?

I suppose. I suppose. Sounds like some ridiculous way to coerce someone into doing something they don't want to though. "Let's do this anally so that you can still be a virgin."

Hmmm... sssskeetttcchhy.

[Shakeyhands]

why Geoffrey? it's factual no?

I suppose. I suppose. Sounds like some ridiculous way to coerce someone into doing something they don't want to though. "Let's do this anally so that you can still be a virgin."

Hmmm... sssskeetttcchhy.

Still her choice though right? Thats what it really comes down to, hell when I was a teen I would have said anything to get the chance to 'do it' ....

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[scribblet]

Trudeau had it right on this one.

I don't necessarily disagree with raising the age of consent, as long as all acts are covered and it does not discriminate against peoples sexual orientation.

I believe we also already have laws in the books to deal with predators. This part of your argument is a straw man.

Oh, now we trot out the discrimination card...

Actually I agree whatever consenting adults do is their business, but we are not talking about consenting adults, we are talking protecting our young people, who are the most vulnerable.

[guyser]

but we are not talking about consenting adults, we are talking protecting our young people, who are the most vulnerable.

Protecting them from what ?

[scribblet]

Got this in a forwarded email, the Senate has gone on vacation without passing the bill.

We have created a petition asking Senators to either return to Ottawa and convene a special session of the Senate to pass this important piece of legislation, or alternatively, to make the passage of C-22 their top priority upon returning to Ottawa in September for the Fall Parliamentary session.

This is a non-partisan issue that all Canadians can agree on. Please take a moment to tell our Senators how important it is to you that they protect our children by passing C-22 as early as possible by clicking on the URL below and adding your signature to this petition.

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[scribblet]

but we are not talking about consenting adults, we are talking protecting our young people, who are the most vulnerable.

Protecting them from what ?

Predators

[Shakeyhands]

with this issue part of the CPC's new dare I did some reading and talking about it. I have to say I haved changed my mind on this one. Raising the AoC to 16 really is a good idea.

[M.Dancer]

As long as the Aof C doesn't criminalize sexual behavior between consent minors....I see no problem.

On the otherhand, when a legal adult interferes with a minor (in this case below 16) I think we should consider Islamic law for punishment.

My God-daughter got involved witha 28 year old a couple of years ago. She was 14 at the time. Police said there was nothing they could do......so the parents hired a contractor.....personally I think the fee they paid should be tax deductable.

[old_bold&cold]

Hell if a 28 year old is going after a 14 year old, there should not have been the need to hire a contractor. Society should have been able to have handled it within the law, and if that was not being done, then outside of the law would have been quick and definitive.

The problems I have with people at this young age, are that hormones do act and play a very big part in all of this. Yes we need to protect them, even though they think of themselves as being all knowing and in control of their minds and bodies. The AOC being brought to 16 is one small part of this and it also needs for people to also make it so anyone breaking this or preying on these young people, should be made social outcasts. the people and the neighbourhood can play a major roll in this as well, and I would like to see much more of this being done.