buffycat Posted April 11, 2007 Report Posted April 11, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IfkGrWHHWQ Excellent Quote "An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind" ~ Ghandi
kuzadd Posted April 11, 2007 Report Posted April 11, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IfkGrWHHWQ Excellent Hey B: it crossed my mind soooo many times , listening to the whining, drone on and on. as if the Brits or the Us have the high moral ground, rofl!!!!! I'll pass it on! Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
DogOnPorch Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 What a load of propaganda. Can we say 'staged for the cameras'? I suggest you read up on how the Islamic Republic of Iran actually treats its 'prisoners'. Zahra Kazemi...Iranian/Canadian journalist. Raped and beaten...died while being trortured. http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/kazemi/ http://www.thinkandask.com/2005/20050430kazemi.html Other links...other victims. http://jebhemelli.net/news/2002/01-jan/torture_tapes.htm http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/next-tim...e-executed/247/ http://www.iricrimes.org/amnesty_davoodi.asp http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/069054.php http://www.vibrani.com/stoning.htm http://www.worldpress.org/Mideast/2443.cfm http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/arti...hp?storyid=2932 http://www.iran-press-service.com/articles...etter_11701.htm http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/jan2000/iran-j11.shtml It just goes on for pages. But, I'm sure you'd both be treated well... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Many hundred thousand good-nights, dearly beloved daughter Veronica. Innocent have I come into prison, innocent have I been tortured, innocent must I die. ---Johannes Junius: Bamberg Witch Trials, 1628 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
ScottSA Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 What a load of propaganda. Can we say 'staged for the cameras'? I suggest you read up on how the Islamic Republic of Iran actually treats its 'prisoners'. Zahra Kazemi...Iranian/Canadian journalist. Raped and beaten...died while being trortured. http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/kazemi/ http://www.thinkandask.com/2005/20050430kazemi.html Other links...other victims. http://jebhemelli.net/news/2002/01-jan/torture_tapes.htm http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/next-tim...e-executed/247/ http://www.iricrimes.org/amnesty_davoodi.asp http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/069054.php http://www.vibrani.com/stoning.htm http://www.worldpress.org/Mideast/2443.cfm http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/arti...hp?storyid=2932 http://www.iran-press-service.com/articles...etter_11701.htm http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/jan2000/iran-j11.shtml It just goes on for pages. But, I'm sure you'd both be treated well... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Many hundred thousand good-nights, dearly beloved daughter Veronica. Innocent have I come into prison, innocent have I been tortured, innocent must I die. ---Johannes Junius: Bamberg Witch Trials, 1628 Too bad they didn't juxtapose Nick Berg's prisonerhood with Abu Griab. Gawd...how some people hate their own side so much that they'll play propaganda films by the other side, even knowing full well that they're nonsense. It's stunning to me that people who live in the very best society in the world can be so spoiled that they turn on it in the name of some non-existent notion of social "justice". Quote
buffycat Posted April 12, 2007 Author Report Posted April 12, 2007 What a load of propaganda. Can we say 'staged for the cameras'? I suggest you read up on how the Islamic Republic of Iran actually treats its 'prisoners'. Zahra Kazemi...Iranian/Canadian journalist. Raped and beaten...died while being trortured. http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/kazemi/ http://www.thinkandask.com/2005/20050430kazemi.html Other links...other victims. http://jebhemelli.net/news/2002/01-jan/torture_tapes.htm http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/next-tim...e-executed/247/ http://www.iricrimes.org/amnesty_davoodi.asp http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/069054.php http://www.vibrani.com/stoning.htm http://www.worldpress.org/Mideast/2443.cfm http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/arti...hp?storyid=2932 http://www.iran-press-service.com/articles...etter_11701.htm http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/jan2000/iran-j11.shtml It just goes on for pages. But, I'm sure you'd both be treated well... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Many hundred thousand good-nights, dearly beloved daughter Veronica. Innocent have I come into prison, innocent have I been tortured, innocent must I die. ---Johannes Junius: Bamberg Witch Trials, 1628 Too bad they didn't juxtapose Nick Berg's prisonerhood with Abu Griab. Gawd...how some people hate their own side so much that they'll play propaganda films by the other side, even knowing full well that they're nonsense. It's stunning to me that people who live in the very best society in the world can be so spoiled that they turn on it in the name of some non-existent notion of social "justice". Congratulations Doggie! You can cut and paste! Try googling prisoner treatment in the West, the US especially and you won't find any different doggie. I see a gate that needs keeping... Quote "An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind" ~ Ghandi
scribblet Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 What a load of propaganda. Can we say 'staged for the cameras'? I suggest you read up on how the Islamic Republic of Iran actually treats its 'prisoners'. Zahra Kazemi...Iranian/Canadian journalist. Raped and beaten...died while being trortured. http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/kazemi/ http://www.thinkandask.com/2005/20050430kazemi.html Other links...other victims. It just goes on for pages. But, I'm sure you'd both be treated well... You really think Bcat will read anything other than terrorist propaganda Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
DogOnPorch Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 Congratulations Doggie! You can cut and paste! Try googling prisoner treatment in the West, the US especially and you won't find any different doggie. I see a gate that needs keeping... You really think Bcat will read anything other than terrorist propaganda It would be best that we never meet.... ----------------------------------------------- No monument stands over Babi Yar. A steep cliff only, like the rudest headstone. I am afraid. Today, I am as old As the entire Jewish race itself. ---Yevgeni Yevtushenko Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
buffycat Posted April 13, 2007 Author Report Posted April 13, 2007 As usual, neither of you want to discuss a topic. Prisoner treatment. It is quite clear in the case of the British soldiers that they were quite well treated in comparison to the way the US UK have treated captured persons. But of course both DOP (finally showing his true colours - with a threat too! ohhh scary!) and scribblet resort to silly ridiculous remarks! Well done! Your gate is well guarded Doggie. Quote "An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind" ~ Ghandi
DogOnPorch Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 As usual, neither of you want to discuss a topic. Prisoner treatment. It is quite clear in the case of the British soldiers that they were quite well treated in comparison to the way the US UK have treated captured persons Enlighten us. But of course both DOP (finally showing his true colours - with a threat too! ohhh scary!) and scribblet resort to silly ridiculous remarks! Do tell what my true colours are. Don't leave out the details. -------------------------------------------------------------------- The Jews are trying to destroy all other cultures...as a survival mechanism...the only Nazi country in the world is Israel. ---David Duke Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kuzadd Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 LOL; the last resort of the weak is to use name calling/smear tactics. scriblett always excelled at that. Propaganda runs both ways, wake up people. You really think the US and Britian haven't engaged in massive propaganda campaigns?? How is it soo many, myself NOT included bought into the WMD's in iraq story. Or the 9/11 /Iraq connection, or the iraq/yellow cake, or the brit dossier BS??? Massive Propoganda! All who did, demonstrate propoganda works and critical thinking skills are lax. ( I am not inclding myself, in this assessement, as I did my homework) Even if, the Iranians put that footage out as propoganda, which, I can't say either way> W What was the whole Jessica Lynch story, the Pat Tillman story, the pulling down of the statue, how about the incubator story, GW1, lots of propaganda courtesy of PR firms in the US. wake up people! What's going on in Guantanamo, what's going on in US prisons?????? denial, denial, denial............................................ Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
kuzadd Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 suggested reading up: the US incarcerates more people, then any other country in the world, and then engages them in slave labour for corporations, no rehabilitation necessary. land of the free..........................home of the slave Published on Saturday, December 9, 2006 by Reuters US Has the Most Prisoners in the World by James Vicini According to the International Centre for Prison Studies at King's College in London, more people are behind bars in the United States than in any other country. China ranks second with 1.5 million prisoners, followed by Russia with 870,000.The U.S. incarceration rate of 737 per 100,000 people in the highest, followed by 611 in Russia and 547 for St. Kitts and Nevis. In contrast, the incarceration rates in many Western industrial nations range around 100 per 100,000 people. "The United States has 5 percent of the world's population and 25 percent of the world's incarcerated population. We rank first in the world in locking up our fellow citizens," said Ethan Nadelmann of the Drug Policy Alliance, which supports alternatives in the war on drugs. we should inform ourselves on the reality of the US prison system, before we point fingers elsewhere. Oh , sorry, that requires thinking. Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
kuzadd Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 for scribbs and dop. watch this little documentary done by the brits, on the US prisons system http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8451.htm Torture inc. Savaged by dogs, Electrocuted With Cattle Prods, Burned By Toxic Chemicals, Does such barbaric abuse inside U.S. jails explain the horrors that were committed in Iraq? By Deborah Davies They are just some of the victims of wholesale torture taking place inside the U.S. prison system that we uncovered during a four-month investigation for Channel 4 . It’s terrible to watch some of the videos and realise that you’re not only seeing torture in action but, in the most extreme cases, you are witnessing young men dying. it's brutal, but, you can take it! It's just the truth. But the Us holds the moral high ground on prisoner treatment, ???? yea right. Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
PolyNewbie Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 The idea of going to prison brings rape to mind with me, it should even to little kids when they think of jeuvenile hall. I wonder if the Iranians turn their juvenile delinquent prisons into kiddie brothels the way the US does. (Gonzales is implicated in this cover up) I did a thread on this about Gonzales. Quote Support the troops. Bring them home. Let the bankers fight their own wars. www.infowars.com Watch 911 Mysteries at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871 "By the time the people wake up to see the bars around them, the door will have already slammed shut." Texx Mars
ScottSA Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 I wonder if the Iranians turn their juvenile delinquent prisons into kiddie brothels the way the US does. (Gonzales is implicated in this cover up) You're insane. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 Savaged by dogs, Electrocuted With Cattle Prods, Burned By Toxic Chemicals, Does such barbaric abuse inside U.S. jails explain the horrors that were committed in Iraq? Pretty nasty. It sure sucks to murder someone in the US. I guess one shouldn't conduct violent crimes if one wishes to avoid such treatment. But that's not the issue. B_Cat posts that stupid staged video showing how wonderful it is to be a prisoner in Iran. Even you know this is bullsh*t. I'm surprised they didn't have an X-Box360 to play around with...maybe the latest movies. But the flowers on the tables and the new suits were a nice touch. Awwww...it makes me want to get captured myself...lol. The idea of going to prison brings rape to mind with me, it should even to little kids when they think of jeuvenile hall. I wonder if the Iranians turn their juvenile delinquent prisons into kiddie brothels the way the US does. (Gonzales is implicated in this cover up) I did a thread on this about Gonzales. How many sex slaves per guard Poly? Does the warden get extras?? --------------------------------------------------------------- Do I know what a rhetorical question is?? ---Homer Simpson Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
PolyNewbie Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 ScottsA:You're insane. Pedophile / Jeuvenile prisons This article contains links to letters that circled around the state legal authorities inTexas regarding the state run brothels inside the juvenile detentions centers. Essentially the cases will not be prosecuted unless it can be shown that physical pain was part of the child rape process. They are photo copied versions of the actual letters. This makes the US government position on state run juvenile delinquency facilities being used as kiddie brothels quite clear. As long as the kids don't get physically hurt no one will bother looking into it or looking at the evidence. Quote Support the troops. Bring them home. Let the bankers fight their own wars. www.infowars.com Watch 911 Mysteries at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871 "By the time the people wake up to see the bars around them, the door will have already slammed shut." Texx Mars
ScottSA Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 You're insane. Reported. It wasn't an insult. It's a diagnosis. Quote
Figleaf Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 You're insane. Reported. It wasn't an insult. It's a diagnosis. Your pathetic evasion is insulting. Quote
Argus Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 You're insane. Reported. It wasn't an insult. It's a diagnosis. Maybe, but you can see why Figleaf would be offended. He shares most of Polynewbie's political, social and wierdass conspiracy views. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Figleaf Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 Maybe, but you can see why Figleaf would be offended. He shares most of Polynewbie's political, social and wierdass conspiracy views. I doubt it. Why don't you stick to things you actually know, rather than making yourself look silly by spouting inanities ... OH, wait, if you did that, you'd never get to post at all. Quote
ScottSA Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 Maybe, but you can see why Figleaf would be offended. He shares most of Polynewbie's political, social and wierdass conspiracy views. I doubt it. Why don't you stick to things you actually know, rather than making yourself look silly by spouting inanities ... OH, wait, if you did that, you'd never get to post at all. Reported. Quote
Figleaf Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 Maybe, but you can see why Figleaf would be offended. He shares most of Polynewbie's political, social and wierdass conspiracy views. I doubt it. Why don't you stick to things you actually know, rather than making yourself look silly by spouting inanities ... OH, wait, if you did that, you'd never get to post at all. Reported. Oh yeah? Quote
kuzadd Posted April 15, 2007 Report Posted April 15, 2007 Savaged by dogs, Electrocuted With Cattle Prods, Burned By Toxic Chemicals, Does such barbaric abuse inside U.S. jails explain the horrors that were committed in Iraq?Pretty nasty. It sure sucks to murder someone in the US. I guess one shouldn't conduct violent crimes if one wishes to avoid such treatment. But that's not the issue. B_Cat posts that stupid staged video showing how wonderful it is to be a prisoner in Iran. Even you know this is bullsh*t. I'm surprised they didn't have an X-Box360 to play around with...maybe the latest movies. But the flowers on the tables and the new suits were a nice touch. Awwww...it makes me want to get captured myself...lol. The idea of going to prison brings rape to mind with me, it should even to little kids when they think of jeuvenile hall. I wonder if the Iranians turn their juvenile delinquent prisons into kiddie brothels the way the US does. (Gonzales is implicated in this cover up) I did a thread on this about Gonzales. How many sex slaves per guard Poly? Does the warden get extras?? --------------------------------------------------------------- Do I know what a rhetorical question is?? ---Homer Simpson actually most american incarcerated are not murder's many of them are petty drug possessors. waste of jail time, and taxpayers dollars. The point is the US holds no higher moral ground on prisoner incarceration rates nor treatment! Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
Figleaf Posted April 15, 2007 Report Posted April 15, 2007 Savaged by dogs, Electrocuted With Cattle Prods, Burned By Toxic Chemicals, Does such barbaric abuse inside U.S. jails explain the horrors that were committed in Iraq?Pretty nasty. It sure sucks to murder someone in the US. I guess one shouldn't conduct violent crimes if one wishes to avoid such treatment. ... ... I wonder if the Iranians turn their juvenile delinquent prisons into kiddie brothels the way the US does. (Gonzales is implicated in this cover up)... How many sex slaves per guard Poly? Does the warden get extras?? It's really great how you can joke about extra-judicial torture of U.S. citizens and the sexual abuse of minors. Class. That's what you've got -- Real class. Quote
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