Iran Freeing British Sailors

[Figleaf]

If it was something Bush and Blair did, fine. If it was something Pelosi did, shame on her,...

Holy incomprehensibly-strange-double-standard, SAman!

[moderateamericain]

Thank god. I thought my brother was gonna be shooting at Iraq and Iran within the next year.

[scribblet]

....One thing I'm interested in sourcing is what U.N. mandated mission the Brits were on as reported in just about every article I read. I've tried searching but no luck. Any help would be appreciated.

The UNSC Resolution of record would be #1723 of November 2006, which re-authorized multinational forces and security provisions for Iraq until terminated by request:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nation...Resolution_1723

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2006/sc8879.doc.htm

Thanks.

[ScottSA]

If it was something Bush and Blair did, fine. If it was something Pelosi did, shame on her,...

Holy incomprehensibly-strange-double-standard, SAman!

Many things are incomprehensible to you, as evidenced by every word you've written for the last month, but I'm surprised that this is. You should think a bit before you type.

[Higgly]

I am still missing where international law has defined the Iran-Iraq border. Anybody?

Don't give me any UN resolutions. The UN has little power to define borders.

[DogOnPorch]

So apparently they were threatened...

I am still missing where international law has defined the Iran-Iraq border. Anybody?

The border has been in dispute since the 1840s. The end of the Iran-Iraq war more or less "set" the current line.

http://www.archiveeditions.co.uk/Leafcopy/160-5.htm#evol3

http://course1.winona.edu/aelafandi/PolSci270/maps.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_waters

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[Higgly]

The border has been in dispute since the 1840s. The end of the Iran-Iraq war more or less "set" the current line.

OK. So who won that war? Anybody?

[DogOnPorch]

Nobody won. It was a mandated cease-fire. In theory, the shooting could start again...

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[Higgly]

Nobody won. It was a mandated cease-fire. In theory, the shooting could start again...

So you agree with me that the Iranians might want to capture foreign military personnel in their waters

I have apparently misjudged you.

[DogOnPorch]

So you agree with me that the Iranians might want to capture foreign military personnel in their waters

I'll agree that Iran wants to look like a big-shot on the World stage and would have put the line over in Alberta had it suited their purposes. The end result of this was a propaganda victory for Iran by standing up to the "Medium Satan" (UK)...I don't think they would have tried the same little trick with Americans...Tehran would be flying US flags in a fortnight.

I have apparently misjudged you.

Careful placing words in my mouth...but other than that I'm sure we'll get along.

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I think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird and not enough the bad luck of the early worm.

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[Higgly]

My guess is that Iran is just trying to draw a line in the sand as to where the border is. If they can kick British butt for wandering in over their heads, I have no doubt they would be happy to do so. What reason would they have to be magnanimous to Blair and his government? More to the point - what do you think might be the fate of a collection of Iranian navvies who wandered into British or American waters? Can you say Gitmo?

Let's get real here.

[DogOnPorch]

More to the point - what do you think might be the fate of a collection of Iranian navvies who wandered into British or American waters? Can you say Gitmo?

Asked to leave. Then told to leave...I'd imagine. Some US sailors might comment that some of their older relatives served on that particular Iranian destroyer escort (DE) when it served in the USN Pacific fleet during WW2.

:D

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Our citizens can now rejoice that a momentous victory is in the making. Perhaps we will be forgiven if we claim we are about midway to our objective.

---Admiral Chester Nimitz - June 1942

[Higgly]

Maybe. More probably they'd be demonized and locked up while CNN conveniently let the whole thing drift out of the collective consciousness in favour of the latest Paris Hilton photo op. Your historical reference is damned good.

[Higgly]

Careful placing words in my mouth...but other than that I'm sure we'll get along.

I believe we just might.

[mcqueen625]

This is indeed good news.

What's that matter Dog? Sorry that the UK can't go and blow up some innocent Iranians? You must be sad about that. Your true colours are certainly showing on this board - far clearer than back at the other forum (from which you were banned).

What I find rather interesting is the treatment of the British soldiers - no matter how one cuts it they were treated far better than anyone in US/UK custody!

Good on Ahmedinejad.

And just how do you know how people are treated in UK or US custody? Unless you have actually been there you know absolutely nothing of how anyone was treated. I can bet that those in UK or US custody are not blindfolded, with nutcases cocking guns in the background, and being threatened with death.

As for the Iranian's, if they are not attempting to build a nuclear weapon, why is it that they will not allow UN Inspectors in to see just what they are up to. Iran keeps saying they want nuclear technology only for peaceful use, and if that is in fact true, let them prove it. Until inspectors verify that fact, they should be treated as if they are developing nuclear weapons capabilities. The big difference between Russia and the U.S. vs North Korea and Iran is that the former knows what the consequences would be to humanity if they detonated a nuclear weapon vs the latter who cares little about human life so detonating a nuclear weapon might seem like the thing to try in hopes that the other side wouldn't have time to launch a counterstrike to wipe them off the face of the earth. The leaders of both of these rogue antions no brains, and therefore may think they might be able to take on the world.

Now that the British have their personnel back they should take this opportunity to give Iran the pay-back they don't want and launch an all out offensive against them. The people of Iran have proven to not be so afterall, as you referred to them, because they are stupid enough to beleive all of teh hot air coming from their respective leaders.