M.Dancer Posted April 11, 2007 Report Posted April 11, 2007 Hey Woody.... you poor whiney bast**ds need to get over yourselves - argue legitimate points or shut up - this kind of semantic drivel is not a discussion RESEARCH YOUR POST If you are stating a fact, be prepared to back it up with some official sources (websites, links etc). It is also important to structure your post in a way that everyone can understand. That means writing complete sentences and paragraphs with the appropriate grammar. If for some reason, you enjoy writing long confusing sentences and paragraphs riddled with poor grammar and spelling mistakes, your post, and therefore your opinions, will likely be discarded. Therefore, it is in your best interest to make sure that your post includes sufficient sources and contains a well-researched and well-organized argument. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/index.p...&CODE=01&HID=17 You're welcome. Now time to pony up or admit you were wrong. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Jerry Galinda Posted April 11, 2007 Report Posted April 11, 2007 First of all - you should to apologize some of this nationalities (Brazilian, Chilean, Spanish, Polish, Serbian, Turk, Italian) – because even small groups nazist’s didn’t exist in some of this countries or in some cases it was only a political folklore. Quote
Catchme Posted April 11, 2007 Report Posted April 11, 2007 Oh my yes, the surge is working, not! The International Committee of the Red Cross says the situation for ordinary Iraqis is getting steadily worse. Four years after the US-led invasion, the ICRC says the conflict is inflicting immense suffering, and calls for greater protection of civilians. An Iraqi woman quoted in the report said;"If there's anything that anybody could do that would really help us today would be to help us collect the bodies that line the streets in front of our homes every morning and that we find nobody dares to touch or remove after security reasons," Women found it "simply unbearable" to confront their children with them morning after morning as they tried to take them to school, the woman added. The Red Cross says every aspect of life in Iraq is getting worse - a trip to the market has become a matter of life and death. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
Jerry Galinda Posted April 11, 2007 Report Posted April 11, 2007 But it requires a moral courage. Rabbit is rabbit or rather Guthrie is rabbit. Quote
Guthrie Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 First of all - you should to apologize some of this nationalities (Brazilian, Chilean, Spanish, Polish, Serbian, Turk, Italian) – because even small groups nazist’s didn’t exist in some of this countries or in some cases it was only a political folklore. first, you should learn to read the dictionary Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
ScottSA Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 Oh my yes, the surge is working, not! Try to hide your glee at the suffering...lest someone think your need to be right is mall you care about. Quote
Jerry Galinda Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 Your “knowledge” is based on dictionaries . It’s not enough. Check your dictionaries – and find response for - why so many – e.g. Russians, Bosnians , Ukranians , Estonians, Letonians , Muslims of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Albanians supported Nazism. Why muslims supported Nazis (e.g. in Egypt) ? Quote
Guthrie Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 Your “knowledge” is based on dictionaries . It’s not enough.Check your dictionaries – and find response for - why so many – e.g. Russians, Bosnians , Ukranians , Estonians, Letonians , Muslims of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Albanians supported Nazism. Why muslims supported Nazis (e.g. in Egypt) ? Why have Bulgarians supported Naziism? they were forced into it? they were under the influence of the Imperius Curse? Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
ScottSA Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 Your “knowledge” is based on dictionaries . It’s not enough. Check your dictionaries – and find response for - why so many – e.g. Russians, Bosnians , Ukranians , Estonians, Letonians , Muslims of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Albanians supported Nazism. Why muslims supported Nazis (e.g. in Egypt) ? Why have Bulgarians supported Naziism? they were forced into it? they were under the influence of the Imperius Curse? Well, Woody, it's like this: when a big bad country invades an itsy bitsy country, they install friendly regimes in those countries. This shouldn't be hard for you to understand, since you've been arguing it for years about Iraq. Unless of course you are going to argue that there are more Republican Party Iraqis than there are American... Quote
Jerry Galinda Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 Why have Bulgarians supported Naziism? they were forced into it? they were under the influence of the Imperius Curse? Your request show that you know only what it is in "dictionaries". No one bulgarian volunteer was in Waffen SS. No one bulgarian volunteer fight (as a Nazis ally) with Red Army. Are you sure that - Bulgarians supported Naziism ?????? Russians, Bosnians , Ukranians , Estonians, Letonians , Muslims of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Albanians - were volunteers in Waffen SS ! Why ? Were they Nazis ?????????? Quote
Guthrie Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 your next „inteligent” request “Bulgarian Nazi's” should be looking for – archeologist – because they disappeared without any visible achievements. maybe you should scrub a little of the whitewash away ...In early March 1941, Bulgaria joined the Axis alliance and, in April 1941, participated in the German-led attack on Yugoslavia and Greece. In return, Bulgaria received most of Thrace from Greece, and Macedonia as well as parts of eastern Serbia from Yugoslavia. Though Bulgaria participated in the Balkan Campaign, it refused to enter the war against the Soviet Union in June 1941. PERSECUTION OF JEWS IN BULGARIA Beginning in July 1940, Bulgaria instituted anti-Jewish legislation. Jews were excluded from public service, discriminated against in their choice of places of residence, and restricted economically. Marriage between Jews and non-Jews was prohibited. ... Link Bulgaria was an ally of Adolf Hitler. There is nothing questionable about it and it doesn't require Waffen SS military rolls to support the fact. Any pathetic denial of this alliance is about the ones attempting to make the denial. The truth is right there. Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
ScottSA Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 Bulgaria was an ally of Adolf Hitler. There is nothing questionable about it and it doesn't require Waffen SS military rolls to support the fact. Any pathetic denial of this alliance is about the ones attempting to make the denial. The truth is right there. Woody, this is pathetic. Bulgaria was forced, on pain of invasion, to allow German forces free access into the country. How much choice do you imagine it had? As it was, it tried to stay as neutral as possible throughout the war. This is a lame attempt to pull your irons out of the fire. Quote
M.Dancer Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 From Woody's link Although Bulgaria was allied with Nazi Germany, for most of the war the Soviet Union maintained diplomatic relations with the Balkan nation. As Soviet forces approached in late summer 1944, however, the Soviet Union declared war on Bulgaria. In October 1944, Bulgaria switched allegiances and declared war on Germany. Bulgaria retained the Dobruja region, which it had acquired from Romania in 1940. After the war, Yugoslavia and Greece took back the territories annexed by Bulgaria in 1941. Which makes no mention of how many North Ameican Nazis there were..... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Jerry Galinda Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 "Bulgaria was an ally of Adolf Hitler" Shocking "knowledge" - from primary school ! Quote
Guthrie Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 so why do you try so hard to deny it??? Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
Jerry Galinda Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 [ Which makes no mention of how many North Ameican Nazis there were..... I try to force Gutrie to prove that "even in the 30's and 40's there were German, Brazilian, Chilean, Spanish, Polish, Serbian, Turk, Italian ... even French Nazi's -- read your history" He should to apologize some of this nationalities (Brazilian, Chilean, Spanish, Polish, Serbian, Turk, Italian) – because even small groups nazist’s didn’t exist in some of this countries or in some cases it was only a political folklore. But it's a snotnose without a honour. Quote
Guthrie Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 [ Which makes no mention of how many North Ameican Nazis there were..... I try to force Gutrie to prove that "even in the 30's and 40's there were German, Brazilian, Chilean, Spanish, Polish, Serbian, Turk, Italian ... even French Nazi's -- read your history" He should to apologize some of this nationalities (Brazilian, Chilean, Spanish, Polish, Serbian, Turk, Italian) – because even small groups nazist’s didn’t exist in some of this countries or in some cases it was only a political folklore. But it's a snotnose without a honour. But you're wrong Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
M.Dancer Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 [ Which makes no mention of how many North Ameican Nazis there were..... I try to force Gutrie to prove that "even in the 30's and 40's there were German, Brazilian, Chilean, Spanish, Polish, Serbian, Turk, Italian ... even French Nazi's -- read your history" He should to apologize some of this nationalities (Brazilian, Chilean, Spanish, Polish, Serbian, Turk, Italian) – because even small groups nazist’s didn’t exist in some of this countries or in some cases it was only a political folklore. But it's a snotnose without a honour. But you're wrong RESEARCH YOUR POST If you are stating a fact, be prepared to back it up with some official sources (websites, links etc). It is also important to structure your post in a way that everyone can understand. That means writing complete sentences and paragraphs with the appropriate grammar. If for some reason, you enjoy writing long confusing sentences and paragraphs riddled with poor grammar and spelling mistakes, your post, and therefore your opinions, will likely be discarded. Therefore, it is in your best interest to make sure that your post includes sufficient sources and contains a well-researched and well-organized argument. So far woody, you have fired volley after volley of blanks..... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
ScottSA Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 So far woody, you have fired volley after volley of blanks..... No, I think he grazed himself in the foot a couple times, and once scored a direct hit on one of his body parts. Fortunately it was his head, so all he did was rearrange the log pile a bit. Quote
Jerry Galinda Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 [ But you're wrong prove it !! Quote
Guthrie Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 But you're wrong prove it !! Sure, easy : Wikipedia ...With center-left tenentes out of the coalition and the left crushed, Vargas turned to the only mobilized base of support on the right, elated by the atrocious, fascist-style crackdown against the ANL. As his coalition moved to the right after 1934, Vargas' ideological character and association with a global ideological orbit remained ambiguous. Integralism, claiming a rapidly growing membership throughout Brazil by 1935, especially among the approximately one million Brazilians of German descent, began filling this ideological void. Founded in early 1933, and led by Plínio Salgado - a minor literary figure, who adapted Fascist and Nazi symbolism and the Roman salute, Integralism had all the visible elements of European fascism. With a green-shirt-uniformed paramilitary organization, street demonstrations, and aggressive rhetoric directly financed in part by the Italian embassy, the Integralists borrowed their propaganda campaigns directly from Nazi materials—including the usual traditionalist excoriations of Marxism, liberalism, and Jews and espousals of fanatical nationalism (out of context in the heterogeneous and tolerant nation) and "Christian virtues." Like the European fascists, they were essentially petit bourgeois. In particular, they drew support from military officers, especially in the navy. ... Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
Jerry Galinda Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 As I said before – you don’t know what is difference between – nationalism, fascism, Nazism and so on. Brasilia during WWII was an ally of America and United Kingdom. Quote
Guthrie Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 As I said before – you don’t know what is difference between – nationalism, fascism, Nazism and so on.Brasilia during WWII was an ally of America and United Kingdom. You are claiming a difference where none exists. and BTW - during WWII there was no, 'Brazilia' - try and get at least something right, eh??? Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
Jerry Galinda Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 [ "You are claiming a difference where none exists." Nationalism = nazism ?? According your “knowledge” – everybody who didn’t “like” a Jews and Soviet Union – was a Nazi. Quote
M.Dancer Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 Well, I'm an opponent of Nationalism, being from Quebec.....but I'm aghast that the Parti Quebecois is a Nazi party...... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
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