Several New Polls: Hillary is Fading

[sharkman]

I realized after making my post that you did make a distinction between NY and Cali, but I didn't bother editing it because it really didn't affect the point I was making. Whether the "simple minded Clinton supporters" were in NY or Cali or other states really makes no difference. But at least you got my point regarding the South vs Clinton supporters. Now perhaps you could explain to me why people supporting Clinton would be "simple minded groupies" as opposed to non-Clinton supporters supporting the candidate of their choice.

Again you are looking at something that isn't there, simpleminded groupies for one candidate only. I only mentioned the simple minded Clinton groupies since the topic is hillary.

[Guest American Woman]

Again you are looking at something that isn't there, simpleminded groupies for one candidate only. I only mentioned the simple minded Clinton groupies since the topic is hillary.

Ok, help me see what is there. Outside of NY and Cali, is anyone who supports any candidate a simpleminded groupie? Are Bush supporters simpleminded groupies, for example?

[Guest American Woman]

Because, AW, don't you see? It's a case of inverse elitism -- Republican voters are the true guardians of all that is good and American and people who live in Blue America or who would vote for any Clinton is to be looked down on, demeaned, their patriotism is to be insulted, they have no values, heck, they are barely entitled to live under the system Republicans guard for "real Americans".

It's been some time since I've been a real American according to the stardards too many vocal (and that's putting it nicely) Americans have been judging us by. Of course as more and more Americans look down on Bush and the war in Iraq, my patriotism must be rising.

[sharkman]

Again you are looking at something that isn't there, simpleminded groupies for one candidate only. I only mentioned the simple minded Clinton groupies since the topic is hillary.

Ok, help me see what is there. Outside of NY and Cali, is anyone who supports any candidate a simpleminded groupie? Are Bush supporters simpleminded groupies, for example?

Look again at my most recent post. Concentrate on the part that says, 'you are looking for something that isn't there, simpleminded groupies for one candidate only.'

[Guest American Woman]

Look again at my most recent post. Concentrate on the part that says, 'you are looking for something that isn't there, simpleminded groupies for one candidate only.'

I did look at your most recent post. And I'm asking for you to expand on it. Since you seem to be saying that Clinton supporters aren't the only ones who are simpleminded groupies, I'm wondering which supporters of what other candidates are also simpleminded groupies. So I'll ask again. Are Bush supporters simpleminded groupies?

[sharkman]

Since my previous comment said there wasn't just one type of simple minded voter, you can go ahead and assume I am asserting that every candidate could have simple minded voters. Of course Bush is in that group. The evidence of this is overwhelming.

But you seem to be missing the main part of my comments. Your comment, 'are bush supporters simpleminded groupies', infers that you are asking are all of his supporters simpleminded groupies. This further infers that you may think my previous comments on Clinton simpleminded groupies meant that all of her supporters are simpleminded. On both counts this is, of course, incorrect.

There are smart and dumb supporters of every candidate under the sun. But since this thread is about Hillary, her supporters are closer to the topic. She has liberal followers in areas of the U.S. that are strongholds of liberal thought, such as NY and California, to name a couple. She also has kool aid drinker simpleminded groupie followers in all parts of the country who would follow her anywhere. The point of this thread is to point out that recent polls have shown her support declining, and one reason is the Obama juggernaut, who she has been making snide remarks about, showing that she is concerned about him.

Her trip to Iraq is at least partly a strategy to shore up her numbers, but I think she may have waited too long to enter the presidential race, 2004 may have been a better option for her.

The other thing is as a woman, her chances of actually winning the office are pretty slim.

[frogs]

"If it comes to it, and although I hope for a better choice, I will hold my nose and vote for Hillary in a heartbeat over ANY republican candidate .. and I'm sure that most of America shares that sentiment."

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If Hillary gets some real nice breast implants, and a bunch of slots on Oprah, and The View, I think she could still pull it off. And it may help for her to get a minor handicap, but nothing to hurt her make-up.

[August1991]

This guy makes avery convincing argument:

I’ll stick my neck out some more: Sen. Clinton will get the Democratic nomination and beat her Republican opponent.

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Here’s how I see the race unfolding and ending. Hillary – and she is Hillary until she becomes Madam President – will go to the White House on a gender vote.

She will nail down the nomination by Christmas, if not earlier, in all but the small matter of voting. This prediction rests on a few, as yet little noticed, changes. The most important among them is the forward push of California’s primary. America’s political super state is getting into the process earlier – and so are Nevada, New Jersey, Florida and Illinois.

The effects are already visible, close to two years before the Nov. 4, 2008, presidential election. Contenders in both the Democratic and the Republican camps are paying hired campaign guns nearly a year sooner than in the last presidential election of 2004, according to a Washington Post front-page story yesterday.

The same is true of fundraising for the expected billion-dollar contest. Hillary had 70 billionaires and mere millionaires at her Washington home Tuesday night. "Bundlers," they are called – in case you really wanted to know.

Halifax Chronicle Herald

She's in this to win it and she knows how to do it.

Go rent Primary Colors and watch an intelligent woman (Emma Thompson) portray another intelligent woman (Hillary Clinton).

[margrace]

"If it comes to it, and although I hope for a better choice, I will hold my nose and vote for Hillary in a heartbeat over ANY republican candidate .. and I'm sure that most of America shares that sentiment."

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If Hillary gets some real nice breast implants, and a bunch of slots on Oprah, and The View, I think she could still pull it off. And it may help for her to get a minor handicap, but nothing to hurt her make-up.

There you go just read the posts on here of Dions wanting more women in government. This kinda says it all doesn't it?