Something's Happening To CBC Radio

jdobbin · December 9, 2006

I'm sure that CBC plays all kinds of worldbeat crap if you search their schedule, Norm.
Why, sometimes they even play music that I'd listen to, if I was willing to stay up until 3am to hear it.

-k

That's probably why CBC Radio 3 is popular with the download crowd. They put it on their Ipods.

Canadians are still a little slow when it comes to Sat radio, MPs and the like.

People are listening to CBC programs when they want, where they want and how they want now.

normanchateau · December 9, 2006

...it's begining to feel a lot like Christmas! Even on the CBC!
They've been mentioning the word "Jesus"...and mentioning the word "God"...

and playing some Christian songs!

They should play Muslim songs and Wiccan songs as well. All taxpayers subsidize the CBC, not just those of one particular religious group.

Yeah, I bet there's tons of great Muslim Christmas carols they could play.

-k

When they eat their Muslim Christmas dinner...

http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=732

geoffrey · December 9, 2006

When they eat their Muslim Christmas dinner...
http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=732

Now that is just purely irresponsible provocation.

normanchateau · December 9, 2006

When they eat their Muslim Christmas dinner...

http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=732

Now that is just purely irresponsible provocation.

Irresponsible provocation on this discussion board? Oh no, that's terrible...especially with Christmas approaching.

sharkman · December 9, 2006

It seems to be a real trend this year. Stores are directing their greeters to actually say the C word. No doubt those who hate the thought of this are preparing a backlash of protest at hearing the word Christmas spoken out loud. I say if you don't like it, turn the radio station or go to a different store and try not to whine about it.

gerryhatrick · December 9, 2006

...it's begining to feel a lot like Christmas! Even on the CBC!
They've been mentioning the word "Jesus"...and mentioning the word "God"...

and playing some Christian songs!

This is nothing new betsy.

And neither are CBC threads. :rolleyes:

Remiel · December 9, 2006

I am the only one who sees the irony in how Canada, a country that believes in multiculturalism as a policy, has less problems with " political correctness " and Christmas than the United States, which believes in assimilation?

gerryhatrick · December 9, 2006

I am the only one who sees the irony in how Canada, a country that believes in multiculturalism as a policy, has less problems with " political correctness " and Christmas than the United States, which believes in assimilation?

We have a lot of problems with the rightwing foisting their political correctness on us.

fellowtraveller · December 9, 2006

As an aside, CBC Radio has jumped to number 2 radio station in the Winnipeg market. Quite an achievement considering there is 25 radio stations in the city. If only CBC TV could master that type of climb in the ratings.

I'm sure that CBC plays all kinds of worldbeat crap if you search their schedule, Norm.

Why, sometimes they even play music that I'd listen to, if I was willing to stay up until 3am to hear it.

-k

That's probably why CBC Radio 3 is popular with the download crowd. They put it on their Ipods.

Canadians are still a little slow when it comes to Sat radio, MPs and the like.

People are listening to CBC programs when they want, where they want and how they want now.

Maybe in Winnipeg, but in Edmonton last year they were about 14th overall on radio, and dead last in TV networks. Maybe it is because Manitoba is a socialist heartland, and people there like their pablum pre-chewed? Hard to say.

Whats easy to say is that , defined by numbers of listeners across Canada, is that if CBC was a commercial network it would have closed about 30 years ago because it has few listeners/viewers and no purpose overall.

jdobbin · December 9, 2006

Maybe in Winnipeg, but in Edmonton last year they were about 14th overall on radio, and dead last in TV networks. Maybe it is because Manitoba is a socialist heartland, and people there like their pablum pre-chewed? Hard to say.
Whats easy to say is that , defined by numbers of listeners across Canada, is that if CBC was a commercial network it would have closed about 30 years ago because it has few listeners/viewers and no purpose overall.

Number 8 radio station in Edmonton:

http://www.lastlinkontheleft.com/r020.html#06120

That's out of 18 radio stations.

Maybe this is because they are in the middle of liberal Edmonton, huh?

cybercoma · December 9, 2006

When they eat their Muslim Christmas dinner...

http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=732

Now that is just purely irresponsible provocation.

I'm absolutely furious at the following quote:

Mr MacShane said: “No child should be obliged to eat food that is contrary to their personal convictions or religion."

What Mr MacShane MEANT to say is that, "no child should be obliged to eat food that is contrary to their PARENTS' personal convictions or religion."

To quote Richard Dawkins

sn't it always a form of chid abuse to label children as possessors of beliefs that they are too young to have thought about? Yet the practice persists to this day, almost entirely unquestioned.

These children are being TOLD what their personal convictions are from birth. They were born into their religion and have been told that theirs is the one true way to salvation. Well lucky them for not being the majority of people on this planet who were damned from birth to be born to heathen parents that don't believe in that religion.

It should be stomach-turning to any intellectual person to see adults abusing children by labelling them as having certain beliefs and convictions before they are even old enough to understand what it is they are supposed to be believing. To put iciing on the cake, it is a virtue to have unquestioned faith (belief without reason) in these 'convictions'.

Mr MacShane, should be utterly disgusted with himself for these reprehensible comments. And for what? Over a chicken dinner rather than turkey.

I'll save the diatribe over halal torture of animals for another post.

cybercoma · December 9, 2006

Her 15-year-old daughter, who did not want to be named, added: “I have no objections to including Muslims in celebrating Christmas but it is quite wrong to offer us only halal meat. A lot of my friends feel the same and say there should be a choice and they were thinking of boycotting the Christmas meal.

Amen to this girl in the article.

Only problem is, someone should let her know that religions are not to be mixed. She's Christian, they're Muslim...segregation is the point. Only one faith can be true, the rest of the people are going straight to hell to be burned and tortured for all of eternity.

How traumatizing is this crap to children...I mean seriously, think about it.

jbg · December 9, 2006

I'm Jewish, but I find the annual rhythms of the season, including another religion's celebrations, reassuring.

It's a matter of timing and location. You would have felt differently in Spain 500 years ago, in Germany 70 years ago or in Iran today.

I live in the United States which, like Canada, has never brooked discrimination or violence against Jews. Thus, I find the Christian presence in and basis of both countries to be reassuring, not malignant.

jbg · December 9, 2006

...it's begining to feel a lot like Christmas! Even on the CBC!

They've been mentioning the word "Jesus"...and mentioning the word "God"...

and playing some Christian songs!

This is nothing new betsy.

And neither are CBC threads.

CBC once had a bulletin board. Myself and a realtor from Peterborough, ON had the privilege of taking the board down. Links to the National Post article about this are here (link) and here (other link to article).

So, there are now much fewer CBC threads.

jdobbin · December 9, 2006

CBC once had a bulletin board. Myself and a realtor from Peterborough, ON had the privilege of taking the board down. Links to the National Post article about this are here (link) and here (other link to article).
So, there are now much fewer CBC threads.

CBC was ham-handed for sure with their bulletin board. Filtering software is about the dumbest thing out there for a public board. It is no resubstitute for a live moderator.

betsy · December 9, 2006

CBC once had a bulletin board. Myself and a realtor from Peterborough, ON had the privilege of taking the board down. Links to the National Post article about this are here (link) and here (other link to article).
So, there are now much fewer CBC threads.

Thanks for the links. I didn't know of that.

gerryhatrick · December 9, 2006

CBC once had a bulletin board. Myself and a realtor from Peterborough, ON had the privilege of taking the board down. Links to the National Post article about this are here (link) and here (other link to article).
So, there are now much fewer CBC threads.

Congratulations, but that ranks someplace between "who cares?" and "so what?".

Your effort to make it relevant to the topic was good for a chuckle though!

jbg · December 9, 2006

CBC once had a bulletin board. Myself and a realtor from Peterborough, ON had the privilege of taking the board down. Links to the National Post article about this are here (link) and here (other link to article).

So, there are now much fewer CBC threads.

CBC was ham-handed for sure with their bulletin board. Filtering software is about the dumbest thing out there for a public board. It is no resubstitute for a live moderator.

They had a live moderator also. The point of the article was that when I evaded the filter with an innocuous post, the moderator manually deleted the post. That showed some serious bias.

jdobbin · December 9, 2006

They had a live moderator also. The point of the article was that when I evaded the filter with an innocuous post, the moderator manually deleted the post. That showed some serious bias.

It showed some serious incompetence of the CBC in running a website. The live moderator or whoever set the rules ought to have been brought before committee in Parliament.

gerryhatrick · December 9, 2006

CBC once had a bulletin board. Myself and a realtor from Peterborough, ON had the privilege of taking the board down. Links to the National Post article about this are here (link) and here (other link to article).

So, there are now much fewer CBC threads.

CBC was ham-handed for sure with their bulletin board. Filtering software is about the dumbest thing out there for a public board. It is no resubstitute for a live moderator.

They had a live moderator also. The point of the article was that when I evaded the filter with an innocuous post, the moderator manually deleted the post. That showed some serious bias.

Um.....who cares?

Your antics on a bulletin board 3 years ago are irrelevant to this topic and to 99.999% of the population.

jbg · December 9, 2006

Um.....who cares?
Your antics on a bulletin board 3 years ago are irrelevant to this topic and to 99.999% of the population.

Your antics in commenting on a topic to say you don't care about it is irrelevant to this topic and to 99.999% of the population.

sharkman · December 10, 2006

I care for one. jbg, that was quite a move, standing up to the man(CBC) and winning. I can see how hatrick would not like it though.

cybercoma · December 10, 2006

I live in the United States which, like Canada, has never brooked discrimination or violence against Jews. Thus, I find the Christian presence in and basis of both countries to be reassuring, not malignant.

The Christian presence in the US is most definitly NOT reassuring to the rest of the world, with people like 'presidential hopeful' Pat Buchanan running around.

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia (on the seperation of Church and State) "...did it turn out that, by reason of the separation of church and state, the Jews were safer in Europe than they were in the United States of America? I don't think so."

Former House Majority Leader Tom Delay "I don't believe there is a separation of church and state. I think the Constitution is very clear. The only separation is that there will not be a government church."

Delay also pronounced that "our entire system is built on the Judeo-Christian ethic, but it fell apart when we started denying God. If you stand up today and acknowledge God, they will try to destroy you... My mission is to bring us back to the Constitution and to Absolute Truth that has been manipulated and destroyed by a liberal worldview."

Former Presidential Candidate Pat Robertson (in Dover, Pennsylvania an entire group of fundamentalists whom wanted 'intelligent design' taught in the classroom were democratially voted off the schoolboard) "I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover, if there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God. You just rejected him from your city, and don't wonder why he hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin, and I'm not saying they will. But if they do, just remember you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, then don't askfor his help, because he might no be there."

Here are a few more memorable moments from Mr. Pat Robertson:

"[Homosexuals] want to come into churches and disrupt church services and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers."

"[Planned Parenthood] is teaching kids to fornicate, teaching people to have adultery, every kind of bestiality, homosexuality, lesbianism -- everything that the Bible condemns."

"I know this is painfl for the ladies to hear, but ifyou get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."

These quotes are entirely typical of a man who stood as a serious candidate for the Republican Party nomination for President. This isn't some wingnut off the street. This is a man with millions of supporters in the US.

Sound reassuring? How about Gary Potter, President for Catholics for Christian Political Action?

"When the Christian majority takes over this country, there wil be no satanic churches, no more free distribution of pornography, no more talk of right for homosexuals. After the Christian majority takes control, pluralism will be seen as immoral and evil and the state will not permit anybody the right to practice evil."

Guess what jbg, you're immoral and evil because you were born to Jewish parents. And if these Christians had their way, we'd be looking at a whole new set of autrocities for the new milennium.

What's truly frightening is that these people honestly believe they are doing good. They believe they're doing the right thing by spreading hate, intolerance and segregating people. After all, there can only be ONE truth and of course, it's not that of any of the religions these people deem 'inferior'.

The Christian element in the United States today, perhaps they haven't come right out and said, "KILL ALL THE JEWS, HEIL HITLER," but they've made their intentions clear just the same.

And do you know what allows people like these a******* get away with it? The fact that we (religious moderates) label our children with religion from birth and demand that they have unwavering faith in ideas and convictions (they can't possibly understand), lest they want to suffer eternally for coveting they neighbours religion. Religion is untouchable and does not allow for society to scrutinize it in much the same way we scrutinize politics, science, philosophy and damn near everything else.

Reassuring, the Christian presence is not. It's the most disgusting malignant thing on the planet, along with every other religious label we slap on our children in the name of righteousness and morality.

gerryhatrick · December 10, 2006

I care for one. jbg, that was quite a move, standing up to the man(CBC) and winning. I can see how hatrick would not like it though.

LOL! "the man". Yeah duuuuuude...like, stick it to the man! :lol:

Quite honestly, I could care less. Maybe it is related to this topic, since they're both about as relevant. Not at all, that is.

Figleaf · December 10, 2006

...it's begining to feel a lot like Christmas! Even on the CBC!
They've been mentioning the word "Jesus"...and mentioning the word "God"...

and playing some Christian songs!

Oh golly gee! How exciting. What a thrill!!!