So who is your pick for the Liberals?

[geoffrey]

It doesn't neccessarily have to be sepertist. Just a strict Alberta only party.

I'm too young to lead a party or even be an MP realistically, even Pierre Poilievre has a few years on me. I'd help out if there was a crediable Alberta party on the national stage.

I ran when I was 23. How old are you?

I bet you didn't win at 23. What's the point in running with no chance at winning? I never really understood the mentality of an NDP candidate in Calgary-Southwest or anything like that.

[jdobbin]

I bet you didn't win at 23. What's the point in running with no chance at winning? I never really understood the mentality of an NDP candidate in Calgary-Southwest or anything like that.

I came close to knocking off an NDP cabinet minister. I was also asked to run for city council as well as the next provincial election. I worked for some time in the provincial legislature.

You can win an election the first time. The changes are that it takes you a second or third try. How many times did Harper run before winning? How old was he?

[Hydraboss]

I will be.

And run as a candidate?

I may consider it. The problem is I would have to take a substantial cut in pay, and I'm not sure the wife would approve (we are all slaves to something...she's my thing). I do fit the profile, though. Mid-thirties, non-lawyer professional, two kids (both in elementary), wife is a union nurse, I am anti-union, good-looking (like there was any doubt!).

I may consider it.

[August1991]

I think Dion will suprise you how well he can debate accent or no accent. Here is what is interesting. He is not popular in Quebec given his Trudeau like approach to federalism. That makes the election in Quebec interesting.

I agree.

But gawd is Dion ever boring.

Harper at least knows how to make the bold stroke .

In Quebec, the BQ will have a tough time with Dion because Dion's French is so erudite. They won't be able to make fun of him as they did of Chretien. And Dion does not come off as a snob either.

[geoffrey]

I may consider it. The problem is I would have to take a substantial cut in pay, and I'm not sure the wife would approve (we are all slaves to something...she's my thing). I do fit the profile, though. Mid-thirties, non-lawyer professional, two kids (both in elementary), wife is a union nurse, I am anti-union, good-looking (like there was any doubt!).

I may consider it.

Let me know if you do, I'll help out anyway I can. My youth, despite jdobbins encouragement, I still believe is too much a liability.

By the way jdobbin, Harper was 34 when first elected.

[jdobbin]

I may consider it. The problem is I would have to take a substantial cut in pay, and I'm not sure the wife would approve (we are all slaves to something...she's my thing). I do fit the profile, though. Mid-thirties, non-lawyer professional, two kids (both in elementary), wife is a union nurse, I am anti-union, good-looking (like there was any doubt!).

I may consider it.

The pay cut excuse just doesn't cut it really. If things are as bad as you say in Alberta, it is not enough to say let someone else fight the battle. I fought the fight, still fight it.

[Hydraboss]

As do I. If you ran as you say, then you know that there is a huge difference between giving your all, and giving it all. I am more than willing, but I have a family to think about. It would have to be with their blessing or no go.

But you've run, so you know.

Edit: And believe me, the pay cut is not just an excuse. It's a reality.

[uOttawaMan]

I was expecting in a zippy and unexpected twist, Chretien wins leadership.

[Hydraboss]

He was asked by Robertson when he was going to retire....and he didn't give an answer.

Maybe Dion is just a puppet?

[jdobbin]

Let me know if you do, I'll help out anyway I can. My youth, despite jdobbins encouragement, I still believe is too much a liability.

By the way jdobbin, Harper was 34 when first elected.

He was 29 when he first ran.

[jdobbin]

As do I. If you ran as you say, then you know that there is a huge difference between giving your all, and giving it all. I am more than willing, but I have a family to think about. It would have to be with their blessing or no go.

But you've run, so you know.

Edit: And believe me, the pay cut is not just an excuse. It's a reality.

You can check my name if you like. I have no alias here. 1988. Manitoba election.

Alberta separation will remain just what it is: a fringe element if people don't step up, declare themselves and run full out.

[geoffrey]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manitoba_gene...#Riding_results

Under "Logan"

He's the real deal.

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There is a separtist party in Alberta, but it's mostly crazy hick types. There isn't enough organization right now (like you said) for an urban movement that is more moderate and appealing to all Albertans.

[Hydraboss]

As do I. If you ran as you say, then you know that there is a huge difference between giving your all, and giving it all. I am more than willing, but I have a family to think about. It would have to be with their blessing or no go.

But you've run, so you know.

Edit: And believe me, the pay cut is not just an excuse. It's a reality.

You can check my name if you like. I have no alias here. 1988. Manitoba election.

Alberta separation will remain just what it is: a fringe element if people don't step up, declare themselves and run full out.

Maybe the tone of my last post was incorrect. I meant what I said; you've run so you know. It's not as easy as "screw it, I'll run" when you have a family. What if you won?

[jdobbin]

There is a separtist party in Alberta, but it's mostly crazy hick types. There isn't enough organization right now (like you said) for an urban movement that is more moderate and appealing to all Albertans.

It won't be anything but a separatist party of hick types unless guys with families, real jobs, taking pay cuts, being articulate and laying everything out of the line step up.

It is no easy process to break up a country. I can't think of too many that haven't done so without violence. Is that the type of people you want running a separatist party?

[Hydraboss]

You are correct. The seperatist movement will sit in wait until those people you speak of step up. The question is, who will bell the cat? Maybe me...maybe Geoffrey. We'll have to wait and see. The hicks will never be elected; Albertans in general are hot tempered when it comes to politics, but they are not stupid.

[jdobbin]

Maybe the tone of my last post was incorrect. I meant what I said; you've run so you know. It's not as easy as "screw it, I'll run" when you have a family. What if you won?

I would have served. Might have even lost the next election or the election after that. Perhaps I would have run for city council when I was asked to. Who knows?

I certainly have no regrets about it and I may do it again in the future. There probably never is a good time to run though, no enough money. And as one person said, if you are looking for lover in office, it is better to buy a dog.

[abcon99]

It is hard to achieve separation. I would not spend time or money on it until it had a least 20-30% hardcore support like in Quebec. Alberta is just too rich and satisfied right now. It will take something like NEP to get 30% to really push separation. It would then have a chance of winning. Not until then. Sorry cause if there was a vote to separate, I would say yes. Even now, that we seem to be making changes on the federal scene.