Liberal Party of Canada Policy Resolution:

Cameron · November 23, 2006

OTTAWA, November 22, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In what is likely a Canadian first for a major political party, the Liberal Party of Canada is proposing lowering the age of consent for "anal intercourse" in their publicly-released book of policy resolutions.
On Monday, the Liberal Party of Canada made available the text of the policy resolutions put forth by the Party's Provincial and Territorial Associations, commissions, and National Caucus. The policy resolutions are to be debated and voted upon at the Liberal Leadership and Biennial Convention to be held from November 28 to December 2, 2006, in Montréal.

While still resolutions, the policies which have made it into the book have already been carefully considered by party faithful. "The policy resolutions represent the culmination of a nine-month grassroots policy process that began at the riding level and has worked its way up to the national Convention," says a release on the resolutions.

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"I know we're supposed to comment on topics, but I'm almost speachless."

First the NDP and calling our troops terrorists, now the Liberals and this....common guys...This is just sick and degrading. Does anyone edit these resolutions before they are published? And who the hell thinks up this suff?

jdobbin · November 23, 2006

"I know we're supposed to comment on topics, but I'm almost speachless."
First the NDP and calling our troops terrorists, now the Liberals and this....common guys...This is just sick and degrading. Does anyone edit these resolutions before they are published? And who the hell thinks up this suff?

What is the age of consent for sex between young people now?

apollo19 · November 23, 2006

As far as I could tell, the age of consent is 14, yet this requires people (who would likely be gay) to be 18. It is discrimination, and should be streamlined along with all the other sex laws/ages.

gerryhatrick · November 23, 2006

What a disgusting topic. LifeSiteNews? Sure-thing.

Are the Conservatives against anal intercourse for close-in-age relationships?

No.

OH MY GOD, THE CONSERVATIVES WANT TO ALLOW "ANAL INTERCOURSE" WITH 14 YEAR OLDS!!!

LifeSiteNews is into gay-bashing, nothing less. And thus this topic is a gay-bashing, flame-inducing topic.

geoffrey · November 23, 2006

There is a bit of a special case of sexual exploitation of especially vunerable gay people (they struggle to find others in their age group). As a special protective measure, I can see the justification to remain at 18. Wouldn't want some 40 year old exploiting an especially vunerable 14 year old, which would be legal under that situation. It distresses me that both homosexual and heterosexual teens will be still open to such abuse from those much much older. I don't know if this a gay, non-gay issue.

The overall move is to 16, and I think the new legislation will balance both, no? I think that's highly reasonable.

Divide by two and add 7 also works fairly well up to a point.

jdobbin · November 23, 2006

There is a bit of a special case of sexual exploitation of especially vunerable gay people (they struggle to find others in their age group). As a special protective measure, I can see the justification to remain at 18. Wouldn't want some 40 year old exploiting an especially vunerable 14 year old, which would be legal under that situation. It distresses me that both homosexual and heterosexual teens will be still open to such abuse from those much much older. I don't know if this a gay, non-gay issue.
The overall move is to 16, and I think the new legislation will balance both, no? I think that's highly reasonable.

Divide by two and add 7 also works fairly well up to a point.

Age of consent should be a universal age that much is certain.

normanchateau · November 23, 2006

LifeSiteNews is into gay-bashing, nothing less. And thus this topic is a gay-bashing, flame-inducing topic.

LifeSite maintains a list of all MPs who voted for and against the legislation which made it a hate crime to promote or advocate the killing of homosexuals. All NDP MPs, all BQ MPs, most Liberal MPs and 50% of PC MPs voted for the legislation. Harper and all Canadian Alliance MPs voted against it.

hiti · November 23, 2006

The Liberal BILL C-2 made it illegal for 40 year olds to have sex with 14 year olds.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/common/Bills_ls.asp?...Ses=1&ls=C2

Warwick Green · November 23, 2006

The tories want to increase the age of consent to 16 from 14 for heterosexuals. It should be the same for gay sex as well. I can't think of any reason why it would be different.

scribblet · November 23, 2006

Increasing the age of consent to 16 across the board should solve the problem of equality, assuming the CPC bill rightly passes.

Not all resolutions will make it to the final vote at the convention, if the CPC bill passes it will be a moot point (the Liberal resolution).

watching&waiting · November 23, 2006

Personally I think that there are still many things to be considered when it comes to sodomy. In many cases for criminal rape there is a high benefit toward the vitim in cases where they were sodomized and the sentences are that much more harsh. So since we already have in law diffeneces between certain sexual acts, I then see no problem with making age of consent higher for these acts. It would not only be for gays but for hetrosexuals who also experiment with that as well.

It does though seem that it is the gay community that has the toughest time with that, and it then poses the question of is sex with minors so crucial to the gay way of life? Does this mean that Gays are more likely to prey on the young then those within their own age bracket? I would like to think that gays have no more pedophile leans then the rest of the population, but their preoccupation with all this age of consent and their vocal opposition to it, makes me think that we have an even bigger problem going on here, and one that needs to be addressed. Why is it that gay men seem to seek out young lovers, more then hetrosexuals. Is this part of the make up of being gay. Is it that it is riskier for them, therefore excites them more?

I personally think that the close in age is the right thing to have and the age of consent should be 16. It is time we let our young experiment among themselves, without adults being in their roles. There should be a law that prohibits any adult from sexually leading a person until they are 18 years old. I know the gays will scream murder but I am not liking what I see from them so far, as they always appear to be wanting to have the age lower and lower. There has to be a reason for that, and I am pretty sure it is not a good one.

Charles Anthony · November 23, 2006

It is time we let our young experiment among themselves, without adults being in their roles.

Huh???

Other than their parents scorn, what exactly limits them now?

Age of consent should be a universal age that much is certain.

Why? What makes that so certain?

The concept of "age of consent" is difficult and not so cut and dried.

Mentally retarded teenage women are occasionally preyed upon by twisted youth -- and they get pregnant. Where do these people fit into our concept of "age of consent" laws?

jbg · November 23, 2006

OTTAWA, November 22, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In what is likely a Canadian first for a major political party, the Liberal Party of Canada is proposing lowering the age of consent for "anal intercourse" in their publicly-released book of policy resolutions.
On Monday, the Liberal Party of Canada made available the text of the policy resolutions put forth by the Party's Provincial and Territorial Associations, commissions, and National Caucus. The policy resolutions are to be debated and voted upon at the Liberal Leadership and Biennial Convention to be held from November 28 to December 2, 2006, in Montréal.

While still resolutions, the policies which have made it into the book have already been carefully considered by party faithful. "The policy resolutions represent the culmination of a nine-month grassroots policy process that began at the riding level and has worked its way up to the national Convention," says a release on the resolutions.

[...]

Linky

"I know we're supposed to comment on topics, but I'm almost speachless."

First the NDP and calling our troops terrorists, now the Liberals and this....common guys...This is just sick and degrading. Does anyone edit these resolutions before they are published? And who the hell thinks up this suff?

This is great if the Liberals like being in the opposition. This shows how out of touch they are with the concerns of the common man.

I don't think the average voter treasures the right to have anal sex.

normanchateau · November 23, 2006

I don't think the average voter treasures the right to have anal sex.

Probably the average voter does not. But the average voter probably does not need to be reminded how so-cons, given the opportunity, would be peeping through keyholes into people's bedrooms to regulate sex.

State regulation of sex is common in Islamic countries but not too popular in Canada.

Figleaf · November 23, 2006

Personally I think that there are still many things to be considered when it comes to sodomy. In many cases for criminal rape there is a high benefit toward the vitim in cases where they were sodomized and the sentences are that much more harsh. So since we already have in law diffeneces between certain sexual acts, I then see no problem with making age of consent higher for these acts. It would not only be for gays but for hetrosexuals who also experiment with that as well.
It does though seem that it is the gay community that has the toughest time with that, and it then poses the question of is sex with minors so crucial to the gay way of life? Does this mean that Gays are more likely to prey on the young then those within their own age bracket? I would like to think that gays have no more pedophile leans then the rest of the population, but their preoccupation with all this age of consent and their vocal opposition to it, makes me think that we have an even bigger problem going on here, and one that needs to be addressed. Why is it that gay men seem to seek out young lovers, more then hetrosexuals. Is this part of the make up of being gay. Is it that it is riskier for them, therefore excites them more?

I personally think that the close in age is the right thing to have and the age of consent should be 16. It is time we let our young experiment among themselves, without adults being in their roles. There should be a law that prohibits any adult from sexually leading a person until they are 18 years old. I know the gays will scream murder but I am not liking what I see from them so far, as they always appear to be wanting to have the age lower and lower. There has to be a reason for that, and I am pretty sure it is not a good one.

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Figleaf · November 23, 2006

I don't think the average voter treasures the right to have anal sex.

If the average voter starts to care more about preventing categories of sexual activity between consenting adults than it does about liberty then our claim to be a free society will evaporate.

watching&waiting · November 23, 2006

I don't think the average voter treasures the right to have anal sex.

Probably the average voter does not. But the average voter probably does not need to be reminded how so-cons, given the opportunity, would be peeping through keyholes into people's bedrooms to regulate sex.

State regulation of sex is common in Islamic countries but not too popular in Canada.

This is only in your own mind. You see social conservatives around every corner it seems. There needs to be laws that have teeth to protect the young from sexual predators while allowing them the freedom to grow through that period of time without being made to feel chaep or freakish. Of course the parents will be able to teachtheir children and that would never be an issue and you know that.

scribblet · November 23, 2006

This is only in your own mind. You see social conservatives around every corner it seems. There needs to be laws that have teeth to protect the young from sexual predators while allowing them the freedom to grow through that period of time without being made to feel chaep or freakish. Of course the parents will be able to teachtheir children and that would never be an issue and you know that.

And under the bed it seems LOL could this be classed as a an OCD ?

The left wing agenda around keeping the age of consent low thereby allowing adults easier access to minors for sexual reasons, is testament to their lack of committment to protecting youth against adult sexual predators.

Cameron · November 23, 2006

What a disgusting topic.

I know Gerry...it is...and why would those g-damn Liberals print it....wow, blows my mind.

PS- I was hoping for a better response from you Gerry....this one just seems like bull-horn politics.

MightyAC · November 23, 2006

This is a non-issue. The Libs simply want to remove an old law that is not even used anymore. Once the law is taken off the books the legal age of consent for anal sex will be the same as the legal age of consent for any other sex act. Right now that age is 14, thanks to Mr. Mulroney who lowered it in 87, and soon it will lbe changed back to 16.

Canadian Blue · November 23, 2006

Probably the average voter does not. But the average voter probably does not need to be reminded how so-cons, given the opportunity, would be peeping through keyholes into people's bedrooms to regulate sex.
State regulation of sex is common in Islamic countries but not too popular in Canada.

This ain't Alabama, and their are no policies that give the government that right.

As for peeping through keyholes, are you talking about how the state has no right to regulate what goes on between adults, or adults and children?

scribblet · November 23, 2006

Probably the average voter does not. But the average voter probably does not need to be reminded how so-cons, given the opportunity, would be peeping through keyholes into people's bedrooms to regulate sex.
State regulation of sex is common in Islamic countries but not too popular in Canada.

This ain't Alabama, and their are no policies that give the government that right.

As for peeping through keyholes, are you talking about how the state has no right to regulate what goes on between adults, or adults and children?

Good question as this topic is about protecting children from adults. You are right, no party has a policy to do that.

Canadian Blue · November 23, 2006

As much as I want liberties and our privacy protected, I think that we should allow some regulation in order for the vulnerable of society to be protected.

Mad_Michael · November 23, 2006

There is so much mis-information posted in this thread that one hardly knows where to start to address any of it.

Suffice it to say that the present standing age of consent for anal sex (specifically) between consenting males is 21 in Canada.

The present initiative will only lower the age to 18 to make it in line with other statutory age limits and reduce the exposure of the Government to a charge of sex-discrimination.

Similarly, the Province of Ontario is trying to raise the age of consent for sexual relations (generally) from 14 up to 16.

scribblet · November 23, 2006

It is 18, if you have a source to back up that it is 21 I would like to see it.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/crime/ag...onsent-faq.html try section 159 of the criminal code

Does Canada have a different age of consent for homosexual sex?

In Canada, the age of consent for female-female sex is 14. The age of consent for anal sex between unmarried couples, regardless of sexual orientation, is 18.