gerryhatrick Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 EU leaders miffed at Harper's summit cancellationUpdated Sat. Nov. 4 2006 11:15 AM ET CTV.ca News Staff Prime Minister Stephen Harper is facing accusations he cancelled meetings with European leaders to avoid facing criticism over his environmental policies. ... EU officials are upset that Harper won't attend the summit even though he'll already be in the region, The Globe and Mail reports. Critics suggest Harper backed out in order to avoid tough criticism he would have faced at the summit. European leaders are upset with the Harper government for abandoning goals set under the Kyoto Protocol in favour of their controversial new Clean Air Act. The Conservative legislation sets no short term targets for reducing emissions, but puts a greater emphasis on cutting down air pollution. http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...1104?hub=Canada Global Warming is supposed to top the agenda at this summit. Is there really any doubt he's skipping it for that reason? It's perfectly in line with the avoidence technique he so often uses (i.e. the media) Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
cybercoma Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 There is already a thread on this topic HERE. Quote
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 There is already a thread on this topic HERE. First anti-Harper thread of the day .... Gerryhatrick! First double-post of a thread topic of the day ... Gerryhatrick! Most annoying Harper hater who needs to get over it ... Gerryhatrick! 3 for 3 buddy. Good work. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
gerryhatrick Posted November 4, 2006 Author Report Posted November 4, 2006 There is already a thread on this topic HERE. First anti-Harper thread of the day .... Gerryhatrick! First double-post of a thread topic of the day ... Gerryhatrick! Most annoying Harper hater who needs to get over it ... Gerryhatrick! 3 for 3 buddy. Good work. Poster most likely to get banned for being a troll ... Ricki Bobbi! The thread is critical of Harper, yes. That is not a crime...it's actually part of something called democracy. It's legitimate critisism. Stop crying like a baby about anything critical of your precious PM and leave me the hell alone. Cyber, thankyou for pointing it out I hadn't seen it. EDIT: Cyber, I don't see that as being the same article or same story, so I'm leaving this up. If you think it's a cross post, there's a topic regarding cross posting in the support and questions forum that greg answers to, or you can report it. thx. Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 Poster most likely to get banned for being a troll ... Ricki Bobbi!The thread is critical of Harper, yes. That is not a crime...it's actually part of something called democracy. It's legitimate critisism. Stop crying like a baby about anything critical of your precious PM and leave me the hell alone. All my criticisms were valid. You insulted me, you did double-post and threatened me. I've probably PM'd Greg five consecutive times about your insults with no response. At some point you get the point he just isn't listening. If the rules don't apply to you they don't apply to me. However, I will let decency guide me. Whereas instability and rudeness guide you. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Who's Doing What? Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 Poster most likely to get banned for being a troll ... Ricki Bobbi!The thread is critical of Harper, yes. That is not a crime...it's actually part of something called democracy. It's legitimate critisism. Stop crying like a baby about anything critical of your precious PM and leave me the hell alone. All my criticisms were valid. You insulted me, you did double-post and threatened me. I've probably PM'd Greg five consecutive times about your insults with no response. At some point you get the point he just isn't listening. If the rules don't apply to you they don't apply to me. However, I will let decency guide me. Whereas instability and rudeness guide you. Greg probably reads your posts and just shakes his head and closes the window. Do you follow Gerry around? Most annoying Harper hater who needs to get over it ... Gerryhatrick! Real mature RB. Yet you are the one crying to the mod. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Canuck E Stan Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 Welcome to another episode of the Ricki and Gerry show. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
Wilber Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 The thread is critical of Harper, yes. That is not a crime...it's actually part of something called democracy. True Gerry but I think it is fair to say that many, if not most of us now look at you as a one trick pony and as a result it's getting more and more difficult to take you seriously. Pity because any of your observations that have merit become victims of your single minded partisanship and your desire to discredit one single person in every topic you start and nearly every post you make. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 True Gerry but I think it is fair to say that many, if not most of us now look at you as a one trick pony and as a result it's getting more and more difficult to take you seriously. Pity because any of your observations that have merit become victims of your single minded partisanship and your desire to discredit one single person in every topic you start and nearly every post you make. I have stood up to Gerry more than others, but I think I am playing a fair role. Look at all my other posts. I post on a variety of topics and even find the time to criticize the Government on occasion. Gerry's are all the same thing. You are correct about that Wilber. Welcome to another episode of the Ricki and Gerry show. Stan, what would you like me to do? Isn't ignoring Gerry just letting him win? Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
gerryhatrick Posted November 4, 2006 Author Report Posted November 4, 2006 The thread is critical of Harper, yes. That is not a crime...it's actually part of something called democracy. True Gerry but I think it is fair to say that many, if not most of us now look at you as a one trick pony and as a result it's getting more and more difficult to take you seriously. And I would expect such a comment from people who support Stephen Harper. I don't support him, and thus I will post any and all legitimate news that emerges regarding him. I also post on Global Warming, which I believe is the #1 issue we face. That ties in to my non-support of Harper, who I beleive thinks of Global Warming as just a political issue he needs to navigate around. Greg has said it before so I'll repeat it: off-topic personal banter is not appreciated on the forum. I am free to post all the news about Harper, with my personal opinion/observations attached (as is the rule). Responding by pointing out that I post on Harper a lot is off-topic personal banter. Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 Greg probably reads your posts and just shakes his head and closes the window. Do you follow Gerry around? Most annoying Harper hater who needs to get over it ... Gerryhatrick! Real mature RB. Yet you are the one crying to the mod. You know what Greg does? Do you want links to many of the repeated examples of Gerry following me around? Gerry accused me of 'crying liek a baby', but it's my maturity in question? Like I have said before, a poster with an agenda to attack the PM at every turn and not listen to or take part in debate is not in the best interest of a publicly-funded message board. I am staying within the rules of the board in questioning Gerry's attacks and will continue to do so as long as he is allowed to spread his hatred. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
gerryhatrick Posted November 4, 2006 Author Report Posted November 4, 2006 Regarding the topic: Harper was supposed to take part in a Canada-EU summit in Finland at the end of November, but cancelled out, citing the need to stay close to home because of his government's fragile minority status.But the PMO announced Harper still plans to attend end-of-the-month trade talks in Hanoi, and NATO meetings in Latvia just two days after the scheduled Canada-EU summit. If the reason for not going to this summit is because of the "fragile minority status" of the Harper government, then why is he going to attend end-of-the-month trade talks in Hanoi at about the same time? Is it hateful to point this out? The media has noticed it, and it's a legitimate point and question. Based upon this evidence, it seems quite apparent that he's avoiding this summit for reasons other than the fragile minority status of his gov't, no? Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 Is it hateful to point this out? The media has noticed it, and it's a legitimate point and question.Based upon this evidence, it seems quite apparent that he's avoiding this summit for reasons other than the fragile minority status of his gov't, no? Yes it does. But that was all brought up in the first thread on the topic. Is there anything new being brought to the board with this thread? Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
betsy Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 So they're miffed. let them pout. Who cares? Do we really have to abide by their dictations? If our PM decided another way that he thinks is good for Canadians...then I stand behind him! Quote
gerryhatrick Posted November 4, 2006 Author Report Posted November 4, 2006 But that was all brought up in the first thread on the topic. I have responded to cyber about that in post 4. Please respect that fact and either question if this is a cross post in the topic related to cross posting or contact the mod privately. thx. Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
Canuck E Stan Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 Welcome to another episode of the Ricki and Gerry show. Stan, what would you like me to do? Isn't ignoring Gerry just letting him win? He's pushing your buttons and you're responding. August 1991 said "Don't play the man,play the ball." Prediction: In time he will be banned. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
gerryhatrick Posted November 4, 2006 Author Report Posted November 4, 2006 So they're miffed. let them pout. Who cares?Do we really have to abide by their dictations? No, of course not. But Canadians should be aware that their PM is cancelling out of a Canada-EU summit and BS'ing about his reasons for doing so. Why not go? He didn't have to "abide by their dictations", as you say, so why not go and be a good ally instead of cancelling a month in advance? Because he's scared of being chided over Kyoto, that's why. Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 I have responded to cyber about that in post 4. Please respect that fact and either question if this is a cross post in the topic related to cross posting or contact the mod privately. thx. Given your views on cross-posting here you wouldn't have considered it a cross post if you had posted it. Let the rules apply fairly. Please and thank you Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 He's pushing your buttons and you're responding.August 1991 said "Don't play the man,play the ball." Prediction: In time he will be banned. You're right to an extent, but there is a method to my madness. By questioning the constant Harper-bashing I accomplish a few things. I stop him from starting endless theads bashing Harper with nobody standing up to him. I expose the intellectual vacuousness of his arguments. I illustrate his never-ending hypocrisy for all to see. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
B. Max Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 Why not go? Because it's a waste of time. Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 I stop him from starting endless theads bashing Harper with nobody standing up to him. No you don't,he's obsessed and you'll never be able to stop someone who's obsessed.Just keep complaining.....to Greg.....we know how you feel. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
Wilber Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 And I would expect such a comment from people who support Stephen Harper. I don't support him, and thus I will post any and all legitimate news that emerges regarding him. No Gerry, it's because you never post anything that doesn't have a built in anti Harper stance. When I see your name on something I don't even have to read it to know where it is going. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
cybercoma Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 Cyber, I don't see that as being the same article or same story, so I'm leaving this up. Like much of the liberal media, [The Globe and Mail] have become obsessed with pilloring the Conservatives for not meeting the Liberal government's Kyoto promises. Today, in a headline which is being rebroadcast throughout the major media, they claim that "europe" is mad at Harper for failing to meet our Kyoto targets, and that Harper is skipping an EU meeting for fear of being criticised openly. From the article you posted Gerry: EU officials are upset that Harper won't attend the summit even though he'll already be in the region, The Globe and Mail reports. Essentially, the article you posted is the same article Argus is talking about. This post would've been better suited as a reply to Argus with a bit of your own commentary rather than a seperate post on the same topic he/she raised. Quote
gerryhatrick Posted November 4, 2006 Author Report Posted November 4, 2006 Essentially, the article you posted is the same article Argus is talking about. Argus posted a topic which was critical of the media. Yes, he mentions that there's a new story out, but he does not link it and it is not the central theme of his topic. The central themes of his topic is to critisize the media, and to critisize Europe and the Liberals over Kyoto. As I've sayd cyber, you can bring this situation up with mods if you wish. Greg has already stated that if a news item is mentioned in a topic then a subsequent posting of that news item as it's own topic is not cross posting. You can see that here: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=6849 thx. Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
Shakeyhands Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 So they're miffed. let them pout. Who cares? Do we really have to abide by their dictations? No, of course not. But Canadians should be aware that their PM is cancelling out of a Canada-EU summit and BS'ing about his reasons for doing so. Why not go? He didn't have to "abide by their dictations", as you say, so why not go and be a good ally instead of cancelling a month in advance? Because he's scared of being chided over Kyoto, that's why. I'd like him or rather the Government to al least be honest about it, sayign that he can't make it because of his need to stick near the House because of the minority status of the Government is just BS, why Vienna and Viet Nam then? What is it about this government? Why can't they be honest with us? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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