M.Dancer Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 I find it funny when so many here chide others for relying on the government handouts...that when you do it yourself they get all huffy.......... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Jerry J. Fortin Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 If you are a political party and want the support of the public you could take the fight to the streets and seek the single issue that would unite Canadians, that is taxation. I don't know of a single citizen that likes income tax. In fact over the last few years I must have asked a thousand citizens if they had the opportunity to vote on legislation to ELIMINATE income tax would they do so? Guess what, 100% of them said yes, provided that there would be no detrimental impact to government programs and services. Yet not a single partisan group advocates the elimination of income taxes. Income taxes can be removed without impact to the revenue stream the government needs to provide programs and service by REPLACING income tax with a transaction tax. In fact if you look at the math, you can design a revenue stream sufficient to cover present expenses while paying down the debt. A transaction tax is completely blind to income and therefore serves as a "fair tax". Creating this tax would eliminate a large portion of the bureaucracy in Revenue Canada, it could be collected the same way the GST is collected. In other words it would serve to reduce government spending to a degree. Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 See...getting a free $200 dinner is cool.....but passing on the steak and pocketing the $$ is bad..... pardon me for laughing........ Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Charles Anthony Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 People shopuld not depend of the gov't to cut taxes...they should do it themselves.......Is that your way of saying that you evade taxes?I have a better suggestion on how to avoid taxes: stop working. I applaud any government that magages to lower spending, and increase efficiency of goevernment, pay down debt and cut taxes all at the same time. It is then and only then that I can start to have faith that a government is on the right track.The problem is that not everybody in Canada votes that way. Some people's parasitism -- I mean, livelihood -- depends on government waste. I know people are probably tired of hearing this from me but Canada needs to dissolve. That is the only way we will see smaller government and less waste. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
Renegade Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 I find it funny when so many here chide others for relying on the government handouts...that when you do it yourself they get all huffy.......... Who's huffy? I did not read your statement as one which "chide others for relying on government handouts". I read it as as statement which advocated illegally evading taxes. Was I wrong? I'm not sure there is a moral difference between evading and avoiding taxes, but there is a legal one. At least you've stopped defending that what you are doing is tax evasion. That's a start. Quote “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” - Thomas Jefferson
Charles Anthony Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 I'm not sure there is a moral difference between evading and avoiding taxes, but there is a legal one. At least you've stopped defending that what you are doing is tax evasion. That's a start. That is a start of what?I jay-walk all of the time and people ride their bikes on the side-walk all of the time. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
Renegade Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 If you are a political party and want the support of the public you could take the fight to the streets and seek the single issue that would unite Canadians, that is taxation. I don't know of a single citizen that likes income tax. In fact over the last few years I must have asked a thousand citizens if they had the opportunity to vote on legislation to ELIMINATE income tax would they do so? Guess what, 100% of them said yes, provided that there would be no detrimental impact to government programs and services. Yet not a single partisan group advocates the elimination of income taxes. Income taxes can be removed without impact to the revenue stream the government needs to provide programs and service by REPLACING income tax with a transaction tax. In fact if you look at the math, you can design a revenue stream sufficient to cover present expenses while paying down the debt. A transaction tax is completely blind to income and therefore serves as a "fair tax". Creating this tax would eliminate a large portion of the bureaucracy in Revenue Canada, it could be collected the same way the GST is collected. In other words it would serve to reduce government spending to a degree. I don't see a difference between a transaction tax and the GST. I agree that a sales tax is preferable than an income tax. I doubt your poll of a thousand citizens is valid, as you didn't ask them what they woudl replace an income tax with. (25% GST?) Witness how much disdain there is in the general public for the GST, and you will see it is not that easy to move away from the addiction to income taxes. Quote “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” - Thomas Jefferson
Renegade Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 That is a start of what? It is a start of Dancer's journey toward honesty and unambiguity. Quote “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” - Thomas Jefferson
Renegade Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 See...getting a free $200 dinner is cool.....but passing on the steak and pocketing the $$ is bad..... No, not "bad" - ILLEGAL! Quote “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” - Thomas Jefferson
geoffrey Posted October 19, 2006 Report Posted October 19, 2006 People shopuld not depend of the gov't to cut taxes...they should do it themselves.......Is that your way of saying that you evade taxes?I have a better suggestion on how to avoid taxes: stop working. Your still taxed. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
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