Democratic Lies 2001-2003

[Derek]

Democratic Lies

By John Kanelous 8/5/2003

"In 50 years New York City is going to be underwater from global warming," – 2002, former president Bill Clinton.

Democratic leaders, who profess the importance of education, are constantly lying to the American people, and particularly to their base, the ignorant and ill-informed who are eating this stuff up and spreading it like wild-fire. How do I know? I pay attention. Watch C-Span, and you will get the picture too.

Lie #1: Global Warming, caused by the emission of greenhouse gasses, will melt the ice caps and cause massive global flooding.

Truth: In 400 years of measuring global temperatures, the temperature has only increased 3/4 of one Degree.

Truth: Ice expands when it freezes, that’s why ice floats above the water’s surface, and contracts when it melts. Thus, any floating ice (like the entire North Pole) when it melts, will not add any volume whatsoever to the oceans.

Truth: Only land-based ice can add to the volume of water in the oceans.

Truth: The overwhelming majority of land based ice is on the continent of Antarctica, where the average year around temperature is more than 60 degrees below zero. The average temperature would have to rise by more than 60 degrees to melt the Antarctic ice cap. Hardly something we need to worry about in the near future.

Truth: Natural Global Warming, and Global Cooling, has been documented by scientists over millions of years. In general it runs in 10,000-year cycles. We are currently at the end of one of those cycles. We are soon, within a hundred to a thousand years, to enter a period of thousands of years of Global Cooling, a far more dangerous prospect to life on Earth than Global Warming.

Lie #2: Bush stole the election through the Supreme Court. Gore had more votes, and should have won. Bush is an illegitimate president.

Truth: Gore, not Bush, contested the results of the election in Florida, filing a complaint to be settled in the courts, not the ballot box, where George Bush won the vote count.

Truth: It was Gore, not Bush, who placed the fate of the election into the courts. Bush had already won Florida.

Truth: Two subsequent state-wide recounts, after the election, one by the left wing St. Petersburg Times, proved that George Bush won the popular vote in Florida.

Truth: Under our system of electing our leaders, the popular vote is not the determining factor. Each state gets allotted electoral votes loosely based on state populations. Then whoever wins the popular vote in the state, gets all of the electoral votes.

Lie #3: The only reason for Bush going to war with Iraq is to get their oil, and line his own pockets.

Truth: This slanderous Democratic allegation was totally un-American, bordering on treason, and was never backed up by any evidence or supporting facts. It insinuated the President of the United States was a liar and a criminal.

Lie #4: Bush wants to abolish Social Security

Truth: Another slanderous Democratic lie designed to scare senior citizens.

Truth: Bush wants to help make Social Security more efficient by allowing people some control over the money that is deducted from their pay.

Truth: The Democrats don’t want this because the payroll taxes currently go into the general fund and are used, at least partially, for discretionary spending. If enacted, Democrat’s will have to either raise taxes, or reduce spending, to maintain their spending habits.

Lie #5: Bush is dumb. He is not smart enough to be President.

Truth: Bush has an Undergraduate and Master’s Degree from Yale, an Ivy League college. He is only the second President in the history of our country to have such a degree.

Truth: It is impossible to be dumb, and be elected President of the United States. Even an idiot should know that.

Lie #6: Bush is a liar.

Truth: Bush is one of the most honest, forthright Presidents in history.

Truth: Democrats can’t recognize Bush’s sincerity because they think lying is what all Presidents do to stay in power.

Truth: Democrat’s have to lie to the American People. If Democrat’s told the truth about what they really want the people would throw them out on their ear.

Truth: Democrat’s want to raise taxes, but they won’t admit it. Democrat’s want to scale back our military superiority, but they won’t admit it. Democrat’s are against developing an anti-ballistic missile shield, but they won’t admit it. Democrat’s are against getting tough with our enemies, but they won’t admit it. Democrat’s are agnostics, but they won’t admit it. Democrat’s are against civilian ownership of guns, but they won’t admit it. Democrat’s fear patriotism, but they won’t admit it. Democrat’s prefer socialism, but they won’t admit it. Democrat’s think the American people are dumb, but they won’t admit it. Democrat’s are hoping the economy goes into the tank, but they won’t admit it. Democrat’s are hoping things in Iraq go badly, but they won’t admit it. They have to lie, they know they will never get back the power they lost, if they tell the truth to a now right-leaning public.

Lie #7: Bush tax cut was only for the rich.

Truth: To a Democrat, rich is anyone making a decent living.

Truth: Everyone who pays taxes, got a tax cut.

Truth: The rich are the only ones who can afford to hire employees.

Truth: The rich are the only ones able to afford new technologies, providing a test market for new products. Products such as Television, Cell-phones, Computers, Fax Machines, etc., etc., were all made possible by the rich.

Truth: The rich form companies and provide employment.

Truth: The rich are the backbone of our economic and military strength.

Truth: The rich provide the majority of funds for charities and foundations.

Truth: The rich provide an incentive to become rich, a possibility and a dream of every American.

Truth: Democrats are constantly demonizing the rich, but they are the goose that laid the golden egg. Kill the goose, and that’s the end of the eggs.

Truth: Democrats would rather have no tax cut than one that would help the rich, but since the rich pay 90% of all U.S. taxes, it’s pretty hard to design a tax bill that would not help them. Therefore, with Democrats in power, there were never any tax cuts for anybody.

Lie #8: This is the worst economy since Herbert Hoover – John Kerry, 8/6/03, Presidential Candidate and current U.S. Senator. An outrageous lie, that is reiterated on a daily basis, by the Democratic Leadership.

Truth: The stock market is up 23% this year.

Truth: The recession that started in the last year of the Clinton Administration has been declared over by the think tank that keeps track of these things.

Truth: The GDP (gross domestic product), the leading indicator of economic activity in the U.S. is higher than it has ever been.

Truth: The economy is effected by consumer confidence.

Truth: Frightening the Americans about the state of the economy could, in itself, create an economic downturn.

Truth: Democrat’s are not only hoping the economy falters, but are trying their best to make it happen.

Truth: Democrat’s are only interested in their return to power, and will say or do anything to get it back.

Lie #9: Bush lied about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction. (His only reason for going to war with Iraq.)

Truth: Everyone thought Iraq had biological and chemical WMDs, and were seeking nuclear weapons, including former President Clinton, and still presumably Prime Minister Tony Blair.

Truth: It was not only WMDs, but the fear that a man of Saddam Hussein’s character and hatred for the United States, would not hesitate to assist terrorist determined to hurt the United States.

Truth: Other reasons were cited by the President, included the tortures to Iraqi citizens, like throwing screaming people into tree shredders, sometimes feet first to prolonging the inhumanity. And Saddam Hussein’s support of Hamas, a known terrorist group, by paying the families of suicide bombers a bonus of $25,000.

Lie #10: Bush squandered a 300 billion dollar surplus.

Truth: The event of 9/11, the collapse of Enron, the collapse of .com companies, Gore challenging the election in the courts, and the subsequent war on terrorism all contributed to the deficit we now face.

Truth: Bush had no control over the devastating economic loss caused by 9/11.

Truth: Bush had no control over Al Gore’s challenge to the election causing an immediate 20% drop in the stock market.

Truth: Bush had nothing to do with the collapse of Enron and other corporate giants.

Truth: Bush had nothing to do with the collapse of .com companies.

Truth: 9/11, an act of war against the United States, required a military response.

Truth: Even Democrat’s know, but won’t admit, that tax cuts stimulate the economy and represent only a small portion of the current deficit.

Lie #11: Bush's Tax Cuts haven't worked.

Note: The lies keep piling up, so now there is more than 10.

Truth: Thank's to Democratic action in the U.S. Senate, Bush's first round of tax cuts to the "rich" were set to begin in the year 2005. (How could they work if they were not in effect?) His second round of tax cuts changed the effective date retroactive to 2003, and did not take effect until May of 2003. We are now in August, and to the Democrat's dismay, in this short period of time, the economy is starting to react to these cuts. The stock market is up, the housing market is at an all-time high, inflation is under control, the GDP is at record levels, and consumer confidence and spending is on the upswing. The only thing left, is for the Democrat's to prey for higher unemployment – an unlikely scenerio under the circumstances.

Lie #12: "Bush turned a 5 trillion dollar surplus into a 5 trillion dollar defecit."

Wesley Clark 9/17/03

Truth: The projected defecit for 2003 is 450 billion dollars. Evidentally, the general has trouble with billions and trillions, or he knows the difference, but believes Democrat's don't.

Truth: There never was a 5 trillion dollar surplus.

Lie #13: "Bush's failed policies has caused a 2.7 million job loss"

Wesley Clark 9/17/03

Truth: 9/11 caused the job loss, along with a downturn in the economy that started in the last year of the Clinton administration. 9/11 also caused a 370 billion loss to the economy, plus a three trillion dollar capital loss in the stock market crash that immediately followed this disaster.

Truth: Bush's policies since 9/11 has caused a rebound in the economy which eventually will result in more jobs for people.

Truth: At the peak of Clinton's administration the unemployment rate was 3.7 percent. Our unemplyment rate is 6.1 percent and dropping. The difference is only 2.4 percent. During the Hoover administration the rate was 35 percent unemployed. This is hardly a good comparison, but the Democrats keep using it anyway. Either they are ignorant, or they think we are.

[nova_satori]

Every president has their problems. Bush has more. Here's his evil scorecard!

Democratic leaders, who profess the importance of education, are constantly lying to the American people

Every leader lies. Are you saying that NO republican has lied to the American public? Regean anyone?

Lie #1: Global Warming, caused by the emission of greenhouse gasses, will melt the ice caps and cause massive global flooding.

Truth: In 400 years of measuring global temperatures, the temperature has only increased 3/4 of one Degree.

Only in the past 60-70 years has the world seen a massive influx of trillions of tons of airborne waste being released. If you are going to try average a thousand 1s, and a million, then divide by 1001, it's gonna be skewed.

HOwever, NO ONE knows if it's true or not. There is NO definite truth yet.

Truth: The overwhelming majority of land based ice is on the continent of Antarctica, where the average year around temperature is more than 60 degrees below zero. The average temperature would have to rise by more than 60 degrees to melt the Antarctic ice cap. Hardly something we need to worry about in the near future.

You mean like THIS?

Truth: It was Gore, not Bush, who placed the fate of the election into the courts. Bush had already won Florida.

Then what happened to the thousands of black voters that just "disappeared?"

Lie #3: The only reason for Bush going to war with Iraq is to get their oil, and line his own pockets.

I've already disproved your lie.

Truth: Democrat’s want to raise taxes, but they won’t admit it....

Right....so....um....I say I'm the smarteest person alive, but i won't admit it?

Lie #7: Bush tax cut was only for the rich.

It;s the truth, the rich get richer

More proof you're an idiot

You're an idiot and you know it!

Idiocy 101, you're enrolled!

Truth: The GDP (gross domestic product), the leading indicator of economic activity in the U.S. is higher than it has ever been.

Tell that to the thousands of people that are losing their jobs EVERY DAY.

Lie #9: Bush lied about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction. (His only reason for going to war with Iraq.)

This already has been accepted that he lied. Craig said that bush said it would take 6 months to find WMD. It's been 7 months. Nothing even CLOSE has been found. Bush lied straight out.

[Simmerinn]

YOU TELL EM!!! EVERBODY KNOWS REPUBLICANS DON'T LIE!!! BUSH IS CHRIST REBORN!!! HORRAAAA!!!

Questioning politicians is what america was founded on.

and of course they want to raise taxes. We had 3,000,000,000,000 bucks in the bank before bush took over, now we've owe somewhere around 4 trillian. I don't understand how bush can cut taxes, hand out hundreds of dollars to every tax payer, fund a "war" against terrorism and all that iraq business(i just heard about this in passing) and expect to come out ahead. Not that i blame just G.W. our country is lead entirely buy money hungry scabs (of course i mean television networks, oil companies and disney)

[Simmerinn]

yay capitalism!!!

[Craig Read]

Derek, Love it. Great post.

Lie-beralism. I am accumulating Lie-beral myths - so this is perfect. Thanks mate.

Read Ann Coulter as well - she outlines the Dumbocrud mis-information campaigns.

As I always state, these clowns have been wrong on most if not all major issues.

So if you want a policy, do the opposite of what the Dumbocruds and NY Times op-eds state.

[Mr Farrius]

Lie #5: Bush is dumb. He is not smart enough to be President.

Truth: Bush has an Undergraduate and Master’s Degree from Yale, an Ivy League college. He is only the second President in the history of our country to have such a degree.

Bush IS dumb. The only reason he even got into Yale was because his father was an alumni. He also got a 600 on

the Scholastic Aptitude Test.

Truth: It is impossible to be dumb, and be elected President of the United States. Even an idiot should know that

.

Not it's not. That's why dumb presidents get really smart people to advise them (National Security Council). Of course, presidents can be so stupid as to ignore smart advice, like Bush.

Truth: Bush is one of the most honest, forthright Presidents in history.

He lies about everything. About Iraq, about intelligence (or fabrication of intelligence), and about the economy. Give me a break, do not tell me that Bush has never lied.

Lie #9: Bush lied about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction. (His only reason for going to war with Iraq.)

Truth: Everyone thought Iraq had biological and chemical WMDs, and were seeking nuclear weapons, including former President Clinton, and still presumably Prime Minister Tony Blair.

Truth: It was not only WMDs, but the fear that a man of Saddam Hussein’s character and hatred for the United States, would not hesitate to assist terrorist determined to hurt the United States.

Regardless, it's not like Bush doesn't have access to special intelligence. He chose to ignore it. He lied.

Lie #11: Bush's Tax Cuts haven't worked.

They haven't. Sure, give a tax break of $600 more a year, and soon everyone will be paying $15,000 to pay it all back!

[Hugo]

That was a great post, Derek. Let me just add some items, not lies per se, but nevertheless illustrations of the shining examples that the Democrats set:

The Clinton administration holds the records for:

- Most convictions and guilty pleas within the administration

- Most Cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation

- Most witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify

- Most witnesses to die suddenly

- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions

- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad

Some additional facts:

- Total cost of the Starr investigation (3/00) $52 million

- Total cost of the Iran-Contra investigation: $48.5 million

(Who wastes money?)

- FBI files misappropriated by the White House: c. 900

- Estimated number of witnesses quoted in FBI files misappropriated by the White House: 18,000

- Number of witnesses who developed medical problems at critical points in Clinton scandals investigation (Tucker, Hale, both McDougals, Lindsey): 5

- Number of names placed in a White House secret database without the knowledge of those named: c. 200,000

- Number of persons involved with Clinton who have been beaten up: 2

- Number of women involved with Clinton who claim to have been physically threatened: 5 (Sally Perdue, Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Willey, Linda Tripp, Elizabeth Ward Gracen)

- Number of men involved in the Clinton scandals who have been beaten up or claimed to have been intimidated: 9

- Number of persons in the Clinton orbit who are alleged to have committed suicide: 7

- Number known to have been murdered: 2

- Number who died in plane crashes: 11

- Number who died in automobile accidents: 3

- Number killed during Waco massacre: 4

- Number of key witnesses who have died of heart attacks while in federal custody under questionable circumstances: 1

- Number of medications being taken by Jim McDougal at the time he was placed in solitary confinement shortly before his death: 12

- Number of unexplained deaths: 3

- Number of times Hillary Clinton said "I don't recall" or its equivalent in a statement to a House investigating committee: 50

- Number of paragraphs in this statement: 42

- Number of times Bill Clinton said "I don't recall" or its equivalent in the released portions of the his testimony on Paula Jones: 271

- Total number of facts or events not recalled before official bodies by Bill Kennedy, Harold Ickes, Ricki Seidman, Bruce Lindsey, Bill Burton, Mark Gearan, Mack McLarty, Neil Eggleston, John Podesta, Jennifer O'Connor, Dwight Holton, Patsy Thomasson, Jeff Eller, Beth Nolan, Cliff Sloan, Bernard Nussbaum, George Stephanopoulous, Roy Neel, Rahm Emanuel, Maggie Williams, David Tarbell, Susan Thomases, Webster Hubbell, Roger Altman, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton: 6,125

- Average occurrence of memory lapse by top administration figures while before official bodies: 235

- Amount of an alleged electronic transfer from the Arkansas Development Financial Authority to a bank in the Cayman Islands during 1980s: $50 million

- Grand Cayman's population: 18,000

- Number of commercial banks: 570

- Number of bank regulators: 1

- Amount Arkansas state pension fund invested in high-risk repos in the mid-1980s in one purchase in April 1985: $52 million through the Worthen Bank.

- Number of days thereafter that the state's brokerage firm went belly up: 3

- Amount Arkansas pension fund dropped overnight as a result: 15 percent

- Percent of Worthen Bank that Mochtar Riady bought over the next four months to bail out the bank and the then-governor, Bill Clinton: 40 percent.

- Percent of purchasers from the Clintons and McDougals of resort lots who lost the land because of the sleazy financing provisions: more than 50 percent

- Democrat officeholders who have become Republicans since Clinton became president: 439

- Republican officeholders who have become Democrats since Clinton became president: 3

Not to mention:

According to the New York Times, Clinton removed $2 billion in trade with China from national security scrutiny. Among the results: 77 supercomputers – capable of 13 billion calculations per second – that could scramble and unscramble secret data and design nuclear weapons. These were purchased by the Chinese without a peep stateside. At least some of them would be used by the Chinese military.

With the transfer of the Panama Canal, four of Panama's ports ended up being controlled by a company partially owned by Hutchison-Whampoa Ltd., which in turn was owned by Li Ka-Shing, a billionaire so close to the Chinese power structure that he was offered the governorship of Hong Kong.

President Clinton signed national security waivers to allow four U.S. commercial satellites to be launched in China, despite evidence that China was exporting nuclear and missile technology to Pakistan and Iran, among other nations. One of these satellites belonged to Loral. Nine days later a Chinese Long March rocket carrying a $200 million satellite belonging to Loral failed in mid- flight.

President Clinton approved a waiver allowing the launch of another satellite on board a Chinese rocket, despite a recommendation by the Department of Justice that the waiver would have a significant adverse impact on any prosecution arising from its pending investigation of Loral.

Softwar newsletter reported that that some of the radios and cell phones being used by Chinese police in their campaign against dissidents were those sold to the Chinese by Motorola after Clinton overrode human rights objections by the State Department.

From www.newsmax.com

[Bushmustgo]

Is Clinton still President??

It's funny how bad the current president is doing right now so you have people trying their very hardest to change to focus towards past Democratic Presidents, a two term President at that...........FUNNY POST!

[Craig Read]

Clinton is an idiot. It is about time that view was expressed and aired fully.

Lie-berals hide behind the roaring 90s - which had nothing to do with 'on your knees' Billy.

[Luigi71585]

Id like to know where you get your figures Mr Farrius. A 600 on the SATs. That sounds pretty measly doesnt it? Well thats because its A LIE. If you can prove me wrong ill be glad to accept it, but i have this LEGIT figure that says he got a 1206 on the SATs (verbal: 566; math: 640). This is by no means top of the liter, but it a'int bad at all. Its more than twice as much as what youre posting. I usually hate whining about lies this and lies that, but thats insane! A 600!? You cant just make up figures man, especially when trying to prove that youre NOT LYING!

Salon Politics Figures

[Derek]

You mean like THIS?

This already has been accepted that he lied. Craig said that bush said it would take 6 months to find WMD. It's been 7 months. Nothing even CLOSE has been found. Bush lied straight out.

Notice that the address says, and i qoute

"However, ice separating from the ice shelf is not unusual in itself," said Mr Young.

"There has been carving of icebergs from ice shelves for eternity."

Also, Nothing even close to the WMD's except for those

ammunitions built for containing chemical weapons. The Scuds. Also built for chemical weapons.

[nova_satori]

Notice that the address says, and i qoute

"However, ice separating from the ice shelf is not unusual in itself," said Mr Young.

Not when the sheet is over 100 miles in length and 50+ in width?

Also, Nothing even close to the WMD's except for those

ammunitions built for containing chemical weapons. The Scuds. Also built for chemical weapons.

Scuds weren't built for chemical weapons. They are cheap mobile alternatives to fixed missile batteries. You minus well say that shaving cream canisters were designed to carry anthrax.

[nova_satori]

Ok, it is bigger. And there are lot of them,

Ice anyone?

[nova_satori]

What? Bush = Good healthcare? What a lie....

Bush is not dumb. He can speak. He is not an idiot, he does vote.

Bush is AVERAGE. However, the average person cannot run their own life much less 280 millon others.

A 1206 will NEVER get you into Yale unless you cure cancer before applying, or get some former president to get you in. There's No other way.

[Mr Farrius]

Quite right. I wasn't lying about Bush getting a 600. There was the rumor that he got a pretty dang low SAT score. I also wouldn't trust any media, considering Bush wouldn't want the general public knowing how low he's gotten. The ONLY reason he got into Yale was because his father was an alumni. Period.

[Hugo]

Maybe I'm missing something here. You're saying that President Bush is stupid, or certainly of no more than average intelligence, but you're also saying that he managed to rig the Florida election, fiddled with records to eliminate certain voters, cooked the recount books, and did this all under the very noses of the Supreme Court and all the investigative bodies in the US?

He can't have been that dumb, then.

[Black Dog]

Maybe I'm missing something here. You're saying that President Bush is stupid, or certainly of no more than average intelligence, but you're also saying that he managed to rig the Florida election, fiddled with records to eliminate certain voters, cooked the recount books, and did this all under the very noses of the Supreme Court and all the investigative bodies in the US?

He can't have been that dumb, then.

Oh, come now, it's not as though he didn't have help. Karl Rove (aka "Bush's Brain"), brother Jeb, Katherine Harris and the blatantly partisan Supreme Court justices all played an important role in pulling the scam of 2000. No one's saying Bush single-handedly pulled one over on us. Quite the contrary. The fix was in from the top down and it's there for anyone and everyone to see. You just choose not to is all.

As for Bush's intellegence (or lack thereof), "Shrub" by Molly Ivins gives a good background into the man's consistent record of mediocrity, from school through his military "service" through his days as governor of Texas.

[Hugo]

No one's saying Bush single-handedly pulled one over on us. Quite the contrary. The fix was in from the top down and it's there for anyone and everyone to see. You just choose not to is all.

I see. And why, pray tell, do the Democrats also choose not to? Are they just good sports, too polite to say anything, or do they actually prefer Bush to Gore?

[Black Dog]

I see. And why, pray tell, do the Democrats also choose not to? Are they just good sports, too polite to say anything, or do they actually prefer Bush to Gore?

Of course, the Democrats did try, by launching the court challenge (which they ultimately lost on the partisan and uinprecedented decision by the SC). Kinda a moot point now, though. Besides there's plenty of other ammunition they can use against Bush since he became president rather than dredghing up the circumstances of his appointment to the post.

As for prefering Bush to Gore, Gore would have been only slightly better. There's not really much difference between the Dems and the G.O.P: they both serve the same paymasters.

[nova_satori]

Hey derek, here's more proof that he lied.

You're recieving the idiocy award! Congrads!

[Hugo]

Besides there's plenty of other ammunition they can use against Bush since he became president... As for prefering Bush to Gore, Gore would have been only slightly better. There's not really much difference between the Dems and the G.O.P

You're saying that the Democrats weren't too bothered that a Republican was going to be President, and that they felt that they stood to gain more with a Republican in the White House?

Of course, the Democrats did try, by launching the court challenge (which they ultimately lost on the partisan and uinprecedented decision by the SC).

OK, so the Republicans and the Supreme Court are in cahoots to forge an election and make a complete mockery of justice by ignoring all evidence and making a partisan ruling. And once again, of course, the Democrats feel their interests are best served by rolling over and taking this.

[Black Dog]

You're saying that the Democrats weren't too bothered that a Republican was going to be President, and that they felt that they stood to gain more with a Republican in the White House?

What?? The Dems were robbed (and they know it), but the SC decision made the whole thing moot. Get it?

OK, so the Republicans and the Supreme Court are in cahoots to forge an election and make a complete mockery of justice by ignoring all evidence and making a partisan ruling. And once again, of course, the Democrats feel their interests are best served by rolling over and taking this.

As to your first point: yes, now you're starting to get it.

I don't know where your getting this about the Dems being A-OK with the results, but, as I've already said, there's not much they can do at this point now is there?

[Hugo]

as I've already said, there's not much they can do at this point now is there?

How about doing anything? They are not even making their cause known, if they have one. What would have happened if the Civil Rights movement said, "well, the law says we have to sit at the back of the bus, so that's that, I guess"?

While seven of the nine justices were appointed by Republicans, you should note that the split was 5-4 on what should be done. Included amongst those who dissented with the action that would favour Bush was David Souter, himself appointed by Bush Sr. I don't think that the Supreme Court is so easily bought as you think. It's also interesting that if you google on "us supreme court democrat", a lot of links you get that support your theory come from openly socialist websites (World Socialist Web Site, Youth for International Socialism etc).

Basically, to satisfy you, the only answer the SC could have returned would be to have a recount, since anything else just "proves their bias", regardless of which is actually right.

Furthermore, we are not talking about a rigged election here, we are talking about a decision on whether or not to have a recount. That's a second count of votes already made. Normally you don't have recounts in an election, and by that method, Bush won. Gore demanded a recount, and the Supreme Court said no. Even if there had been a recount, Gore could very conceivably have lost again. The recount decision was not going to decide anything. That's basically it. Gore was a sore loser. The reason why the Democrats aren't pushing it or haven't pushed it is because they know that they lost.

[Black Dog]

Even if there had been a recount, Gore could very conceivably have lost again. The recount decision was not going to decide anything. That's basically it. Gore was a sore loser. The reason why the Democrats aren't pushing it or haven't pushed it is because they know that they lost.

Or he could have won. Or maybe he would have won if thousands of voters had not been struck from the rolls. Or id the recounts hadn't been impeded. Or any other of the crooked goings-on that made the whole affair stink to high heaven. It says a lot that, despite the numerous and disturbing irregularities in the 2000 election, Republicans are content to shrug their shoulders and declare that folks should "get over it."

Partisanship: 1.

Democracy: 0.

[Derek]

Hey derek, here's more proof that he lied.

You're recieving the idiocy award! Congrads!

How many times are you going to reiterate this point that Bush Lied about WMDs? He didn't what do you think Saddam was doing those months The UN was debating about sending inspectors in? Wanking it. Surely not, he got smart and got the weapons out of there. Clinton, the idiot that he was, stood by and watch them block the inspectors when they sent them in there, unable to walk into the Presidential palaces. and Other Military Complexes. Surely saddam wouldn't let them sit there again and let the Inspectors discover them would you? that would definitely mean the US. and other Nations of the UN would have gone in. Idiocy award. You libs are just mad you found out the truth.