Canadian Political Polls

[jdobbin]

Or we could just as easily assume that the polls today aren't very accurate in predicting who would win the next election. We have seen the polls all over the place in the spring, and in all honesty it really doesn't matter since I highly doubt we'll see an election until next year.

I have questioned Angus Reid online polls for a while now. Some of the pollsters have commented on Reid as well. They were ones that had the Tories at 40% when they were all well short of that in polls taken at the same time.

The phone polls have been fairly accurate. At least one or two of them seem off but that is par for the course according to their own statistics.

[sharkman]

Looks like another stalker post.

What is this shite?

You've been here less than one year, and you have amassed over 7000 posts. You are everywhere on the Canadian Politics board. Everytime I walk into a thread I bump shoulders with you walking out. If anyone needs to get a grip it's you, poster boy.

[Michael Bluth]

What is this shite?

You've been here less than one year, and you have amassed over 7000 posts. You are everywhere on the Canadian Politics board. Everytime I walk into a thread I bump shoulders with you walking out. If anyone needs to get a grip it's you, poster boy.

Thank you.

[jdobbin]

What is this shite?

You've been here less than one year, and you have amassed over 7000 posts. You are everywhere on the Canadian Politics board. Everytime I walk into a thread I bump shoulders with you walking out. If anyone needs to get a grip it's you, poster boy.

I think you are one of the other posters people talk about for their rabid attacks styles. You should learn to relax and stop attacking people personally if you disagree with their politics.

I appreciate the fact that you don't PM people and use intimidation like some other posters have in the past. That type of stalking is a little uncalled for.

I might be partisan but I think I was straight up when I said what I did about statistical tie in polling. Once again today, I have reported two polls and provided the links. I've questioned Angus Reid polls in the past and even though they say the Liberals have risen six points, I don't think they are as accurate as phone polling.

[Who's Doing What?]

What is this shite?

You've been here less than one year, and you have amassed over 7000 posts. You are everywhere on the Canadian Politics board. Everytime I walk into a thread I bump shoulders with you walking out. If anyone needs to get a grip it's you, poster boy.

Atleast the majority of jdobbins posts are relevant to the topic or conversational in nature. Not like the personal attacks and belittling that frequents the majority of some other members posts.

He is not the only one to have been threatened and constantly PM'd by a former (I believe returned) member of this forum.

[Canadian Blue]

I think everybody should just calm down.

[Michael Bluth]

I think you are one of the other posters people talk about for their rabid attacks styles. You should learn to relax and stop attacking people personally if you disagree with their politics.

Better watch out Sharkman people are talking about you.

Here is dobbin's style:

I question his misrepresentations.

He makes up a false claim that I'm stalking him.

You call him on his shrillness and YOU should learn to relax and stop attacking people personally.

Have you seen dobbin deal with valid criticisms? No.

I think everybody should just calm down.

CB, I know it is a school yard response, but jdobbin did start it.

He can't deal with fair criticism so he manufactures claims of stalking? Whatever.

He whines about personal attacks. But he doesn't understand what a "statistical tie" is or what it really represents. He flat out lied about the "misrepresentations" of the budget surplus.

No personal attacks there. Just pointing out the facts. But because I don't share his hatred of Stephen Harper he accuses me of stalking him? Whatever.

This isn't Rabble. Not everybody here hates Stephen Harper. If people can't deal with it. Grow a thicker skin. Don't make up things. Don't be histrionic.

There is a reason multiple posters called dobbin on his "stalker" whine....

[sharkman]

What is this shite?

You've been here less than one year, and you have amassed over 7000 posts. You are everywhere on the Canadian Politics board. Everytime I walk into a thread I bump shoulders with you walking out. If anyone needs to get a grip it's you, poster boy.

I think you are one of the other posters people talk about for their rabid attacks styles. You should learn to relax and stop attacking people personally if you disagree with their politics.

As far as attacking goes, you just attacked Michael with a stalker claim, so why don't you practice your own preaching.

[jbg]

Looks like another stalker post.

What is this shite? You've been here less than one year, and you have amassed over 7000 posts. You are everywhere on the Canadian Politics board. Everytime I walk into a thread I bump shoulders with you walking out. If anyone needs to get a grip it's you, poster boy.

Sharkman, usually I agree with your posts. I have serious issues with the amount that this thread, which is supposed to be a review of various "Canadian Political Polls" is about the supposed personalities of anonymous screen names.

[jdobbin]

As far as attacking goes, you just attacked Michael with a stalker claim, so why don't you practice your own preaching.

I have placed his entire profile on ignore but it isn't difficult to see that he posts after every post I make. Why don't you see for yourself? What exactly would you call it?

[jdobbin]

I think everybody should just calm down.

It will probably calm down when said member implodes just like last time for his behaviour of personal attacks and stalker-like behaviour.

[Michael Bluth]

As far as attacking goes, you just attacked Michael with a stalker claim, so why don't you practice your own preaching.

I have placed his entire profile on ignore but it isn't difficult to see that he posts after every post I make. Why don't you see for yourself? What exactly would you call it?

Sharkman it's obvious dobbin isn't reading my posts.

I call it responding to people's posts. dobbin ignoring me is a joke. Sometimes he'll reply directly on point when responding to my posts. Sometimes he tries to play this little game. whatever

I have been dealing with the gaps in his logic and arguments. That is the purpose of this board. I am doing nothing wrong. Just being smeared with false allegations because I don't hate Stephen Harper.

As you said he's been here for less than 11 months and posted over 7,000 times.

How can people not reply after his posts.

[jdobbin]

I have serious issues with the amount that this thread, which is supposed to be a review of various "Canadian Political Polls" is about the supposed personalities of anonymous screen names.

There is a reason why people like Ricki were banned. He always took things too far by PMing people, using threatening language and by generally attacking and abusing the forums.

[sharkman]

Here's the way I see it. You do post an awful lot on Canadian Political Polls. Even to the point of monopolizing certain threads with your strong pro Liberal or anti Tory commentary. You average 22 posts a day at this, and personally I have found if I ever make a comment on this particular board, I am more than likely to have you disagree with me. It's obvious you do this to others as well. This is not in and of itself wrong, it's just that you do so much of it, it becomes a form of attack in and of itself. So some posters here get a little tired of having you correct them every time they post a pro Tory or Anti liberal comment. It therefore rings a little hollow to hear you complain of a little similar treatment.

You do keep it pretty respectful, and you're probably a nice fella, but in my opinion you do occasionally overdo things. (Like I don't go over the top sometimes!)

[Michael Bluth]

It will probably calm down when said member implodes just like last time for his behaviour of personal attacks and stalker-like behaviour.

So your objective today is to bait me into imploding?

Isn't that the definition of trolling?

Hate to tell you but there was no last time.

[jdobbin]

Here's the way I see it. You do post an awful lot on Canadian Political Polls. Even to the point of monopolizing certain threads with your strong pro Liberal or anti Tory commentary. You average 22 posts a day at this, and personally I have found if I ever make a comment on this particular board, I am more than likely to have you disagree with me. It's obvious you do this to others as well. This is not in and of itself wrong, it's just that you do so much of it, it becomes a form of attack in and of itself. So some posters here get a little tired of having you correct them every time they post a pro Tory or Anti liberal comment. It therefore rings a little hollow to hear you complain of a little similar treatment.

You do keep it pretty respectful, and you're probably a nice fella, but in my opinion you do occasionally overdo things. (Like I don't go over the top sometimes!)

I don't think I have attacked you for having a difference of opinion nor PMed you after every single post you make to harass you as Ricki did. I don't refer to you in my posts disrespectfully even if I disagree. I certainly don't follow all your posts.

I haven't responded directly to the posts attacking me although I often hear about them or see them when someone else responds. I suppose I could the ignore button off and go for a double eviction.

[Michael Bluth]

I haven't responded directly to the posts attacking me although I often hear about them or see them when someone else responds. I suppose I could the ignore button off and go for a double eviction.

They aren't personal attacks. You aren't reading them. You are faulting me for the behaviour of another poster. Seems like trolling to me.

You have attacked me by falsely accusing me of stalking. You can't see the irony in that. Of course, you blind hatred of everything related to the Conservatives is the reason you can't see so many things.

Histrionic: deliberately affected or self-consciously emotional; overly dramatic, in behavior or speech.

[gc1765]

Here's the way I see it. You do post an awful lot on Canadian Political Polls. Even to the point of monopolizing certain threads with your strong pro Liberal or anti Tory commentary. You average 22 posts a day at this, and personally I have found if I ever make a comment on this particular board, I am more than likely to have you disagree with me. It's obvious you do this to others as well. This is not in and of itself wrong, it's just that you do so much of it, it becomes a form of attack in and of itself. So some posters here get a little tired of having you correct them every time they post a pro Tory or Anti liberal comment. It therefore rings a little hollow to hear you complain of a little similar treatment.

What exactly is your criticism here? A lot of people post in federal politics. Some of them are Liberals, and some of them are Conservatives. If anything, the Conservatives outnumber the Liberals. So, if you have no problem with people posting anti-Liberal comments, why should it be a problem to post anti-Conservative comments?

[Michael Bluth]

What exactly is your criticism here? A lot of people post in federal politics. Some of them are Liberals, and some of them are Conservatives. If anything, the Conservatives outnumber the Liberals. So, if you have no problem with people posting anti-Liberal comments, why should it be a problem to post anti-Conservative comments?

What sharkman appears to be saying is that dobbin posts soooo much that it's tough not to follow his posts.

I'm not sure what has set him off today.

His most recent posts seem to mean that he is going after me because he is convinced I am some former poster.

He has admitted the he has been baiting me to get me to "implode".

Don't know what that means, but I don't feel like I am imploding.

[sharkman]

Here's the way I see it. You do post an awful lot on Canadian Political Polls. Even to the point of monopolizing certain threads with your strong pro Liberal or anti Tory commentary. You average 22 posts a day at this, and personally I have found if I ever make a comment on this particular board, I am more than likely to have you disagree with me. It's obvious you do this to others as well. This is not in and of itself wrong, it's just that you do so much of it, it becomes a form of attack in and of itself. So some posters here get a little tired of having you correct them every time they post a pro Tory or Anti liberal comment. It therefore rings a little hollow to hear you complain of a little similar treatment.

What exactly is your criticism here? A lot of people post in federal politics. Some of them are Liberals, and some of them are Conservatives. If anything, the Conservatives outnumber the Liberals. So, if you have no problem with people posting anti-Liberal comments, why should it be a problem to post anti-Conservative comments?

Can you not see what my concern is here? No, it's not that I have a problem with people posting their opinions. If I make 5 posts in this category, 4 times I will be corrected by Jdobbin. He's monopolizing the topic.

[gc1765]

What sharkman appears to be saying is that dobbin posts soooo much that it's tough not to follow his posts.

Sounded to me like he was criticizing jdobbin for having a pro-Liberal/anti-Conservative bias. Perhaps I am misinterpreting here, but it seems strange for someone like sharkman to accuse another poster of bias.

[Michael Bluth]

Can you not see what my concern is here? No, it's not that I have a problem with people posting their opinions. If I make 5 posts in this category, 4 times I will be corrected by Jdobbin. He's monopolizing the topic.

If you disagree with him he shouts you down.

If you prove his assertions and allegations to be false he accuses you of stalking him.

I don't really get why he posts on this board.

It ain't Free Dominion, i.e. a circle jerk for righties.

It ain't Rabble, i.e. a circle jerk for leftists.

There are some good posters here who make some solid contributions. Posters from the left and the right.

That's why I'm here.

Just kinda sucks I'm accused of stalking for not agreeing with a poster's political views.

Sounded to me like he was criticizing jdobbin for having a pro-Liberal/anti-Conservative bias. Perhaps I am misinterpreting here, but it seems strange for someone like sharkman to accuse another poster of bias.

I see where you are coming from. Here's a little background. For whatever reason dobbin has gone full bore with baiting me. Part of the baiting has been accusing me of "stalking him".

sharkman pointed out that dobbin posts so much here it is really difficult for somebody not to follow him with their posts.

There was no attack on the political views expressed in dobbin's posts.

[jbg]

Does any of the last roughly 15-20 posts relate at all to Canadian political polls?

[geoffrey]

No kidding, please take it to private messages, we don't care to hear about your personal squabbles.

[Michael Bluth]

What can I do?

He attacks me publicly. Accuses me of stalking him and sending him harrassing PMs. I haven't PM'd him in over two months.

Gotta defend myself.

I'll take it to PMs if he will.

If he keeps up the personal attacks I'll keep on defending myself.

Any other suggestions?