kimmy Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 Studies from the University of Paris X-Nanterre show that the same effect of walking and talking slowly in front of the elderly that men mimic the "blonde bimbo" stereotype and actually become say less intelligent. Men actually lose their heads when confronted with interaction with blondes. I once heard an audio course on speaking in which the instructor claimed that people subconsciously mimic the people they're speaking to as a means of building rapport. Speakers instinctively match their pace, tone, and volume to that of the person they're conversing with, he claimed. If that's the case, then perhaps "playing dumb" is an attempt to build rapport. (I suspect that women of all hair colours can relate to men acting dumb around them, however.) Whatever the reason behind the change in behaviour, it again shows that people are influenced by the hair. As did the experiment mentioned earlier, where business students evaluated a group of female job applicants and found the women were deemed more competent and more qualified when they had brown hair than the same women when they had blonde hair. If somebody tells me one of those stupid jokes and I tell him or her to get bent, their reaction is invariably-- invariably-- "oh, come on. Everybody knows it's just jokes. Nobody really believes it's true." And yet, there is a ton of anecdotal evidence and at least a few experiments that prove otherwise. I'm curious, RB... earlier you asked "Can women afford not to be blonde? Blondes are more desirable, they get all the help and seem to have more advantage over brunettes." Has this discussion changed that view changed any, or do you still feel like blondes have it better off? -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
RB Posted February 12, 2009 Author Report Posted February 12, 2009 I'm curious, RB... earlier you asked "Can women afford not to be blonde? Blondes are more desirable, they get all the help and seem to have more advantage over brunettes."Has this discussion changed that view changed any, or do you still feel like blondes have it better off? Well, I cannot deny where big commercial value exist. From the discussion what I gathered is that there comes a time when for every age of women they arrive at the "rite of passage" being blonde.. those folks chasing particular anxieties or some sort of dream. What I can also say is the artifice of being blonde incorporates a different mindset, and gets promoted to a different realm, mostly fantasy and lives as an ideology. It helps when we are also world-class makers of these fantasies, L'Oréal's "you're worth it" is borne from hair color. Essentially capturing a woman sensibility. Quote
RB Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Posted February 18, 2009 However from this so recent survey Brunettes are 'better paid and more respected than blondes' Click here to read from the Telgraph Blondes may have more fun but brunettes are better paid, according to a new survey. Quote
kimmy Posted February 21, 2009 Report Posted February 21, 2009 However from this so recent survey Brunettes are 'better paid and more respected than blondes' Click here to read from the Telgraph Blondes may have more fun but brunettes are better paid, according to a new survey. That certainly seems to be indicated by a number of studies and surveys. However, name 2 things that the following women have in common: Margaret Thatcher Angela Merkel Tzipi Livni Yulia Tymoshenko Mary McAleese Hilary Clinton Kim Campbell Golda Meir and Mary Robinson are the only brunette counterparts I can think of. Odd paradox... -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
M.Dancer Posted February 21, 2009 Report Posted February 21, 2009 Nigela Lawson. Brunette, Zaftig. Yummy. There, I said it. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
RB Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Posted February 22, 2009 That certainly seems to be indicated by a number of studies and surveys.However, name 2 things that the following women have in common: Margaret Thatcher Angela Merkel Tzipi Livni Yulia Tymoshenko Mary McAleese Hilary Clinton Kim Campbell Golda Meir and Mary Robinson are the only brunette counterparts I can think of. Odd paradox... -k Those are ladies in power, and I approve In terms of finances - here is how the odds stack up Quote: The Huffington Post reported a few months ago that experts at Lycos analyzed the hair color of wives of the world's top 100 billionaires to determine if there is a predominant hair color wealthy men go for. Turns out 62% of the world's billionaires were married to brunettes, while 22% of billionaires were married to blondes. Unquote. I guess some folks just have to decide when the fun is over. Quote
Topaz Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 I'm French Canadian, medium brown hair. My ex was British, light brown hair. Our two boys had almost white hair until the age of six. Their hair turned blond then gradually darkened. Now they are in their 30s and both have light brown hair. This also happened to all my grandchildren who now have light brown hair.A few years ago, I wanted to dye my hair blond just to see what it was like. Probably a middle-age crisis. Anyway, my hairdresser said it would make me look older. That cured me. I now sport dyed medium brown hair with subtle highlights. Capicorn, you and I have alot in common, I too have to sons in their 30`s, I, too am French on dad side and Irish on mother side. Hubby`s dark-hair blue eyed English and son`s have both dark hair but the oldest has the most beautiful blue eyes while the youngest has my green eyes. I would never go blonde. Quote
kimmy Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 Those are ladies in power, and I approve That was only one of the things they had in common. The other, of course, is opting for a hair color that most people would probably consider blonde. Campbell and Tymoshenko are very light blonde, with the remainder going with a shade that most people would call "sandy blonde". By contrast, Mary Robinson and Golda Meir are the only brunettes I know of who've achieved comparable status (and I think most people think of Meir as "grey" rather than brunette anyway.) I point this out as not a "nyah-nyah, blondes beat brunettes in politics!" jab, but rather to point out the incongruity with the survey results we've seen. Your study and several mentioned earlier on all seem to indicate that people view brunettes as being more capable, more competent, and more respected. And yet, when voters elect women to lead them, they appear to pick blondes far more often than brunettes. Don't you think that's odd? I think that's odd. In terms of finances - here is how the odds stack upQuote: The Huffington Post reported a few months ago that experts at Lycos analyzed the hair color of wives of the world's top 100 billionaires to determine if there is a predominant hair color wealthy men go for. Turns out 62% of the world's billionaires were married to brunettes, while 22% of billionaires were married to blondes. Unquote. Given the portion of the world's women who are blonde, isn't 22% actually a disproportionately high number? So, what brand of watches do billionaires buy? What cars do they drive? What kind of suits do they wear? If one is determined to view themselves as a human equivalent to a Tag-Heuer, a BMW, or an Armani, I guess that's their prerogative. I guess some folks just have to decide when the fun is over. What fun? From reading your posts I get the impression that there's this idea that you can go blonde and suddenly everywhere you go men will be drawn to you and women will want to be your friend and drinks will magically appear at your table, and the most desirable men will be competing for your attention. Being blonde, you said, has "big commercial value." It's "an artifice that incorporates a different mindset". Go blonde and get "promoted to a different realm". A "rite of passage" for women who are chasing "some sort of dream". Cheeeeee... that doesn't sound much like life as a blonde as I've come to know it. Being blonde does not turn your life into Spring Break. The universal blonde experience is not being popular. The universal blonde experience is that somebody will come up to you with some insulting joke that they assume you're going to love then get offended if you don't guffaw along, as if you're the one who has committed a social faux-pas. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
capricorn Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 Capicorn, you and I have alot in common, I too have to sons in their 30`s, I, too am French on dad side and Irish on mother side. Hubby`s dark-hair blue eyed English and son`s have both dark hair but the oldest has the most beautiful blue eyes while the youngest has my green eyes. I would never go blonde. Topaz, if you have medium brown hair, you should try soft copper highlights. It would complement your green eyes. Here I am...trying to be the fashion consultant. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Oleg Bach Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 Topaz, if you have medium brown hair, you should try soft copper highlights. It would complement your green eyes.Here I am...trying to be the fashion consultant. Oh God ----soon they will be singing show tunes...nooooo! Quote
heretoday Posted February 26, 2009 Report Posted February 26, 2009 Those are ladies in power, and I approveIn terms of finances - here is how the odds stack up Quote: The Huffington Post reported a few months ago that experts at Lycos analyzed the hair color of wives of the world's top 100 billionaires to determine if there is a predominant hair color wealthy men go for. Turns out 62% of the world's billionaires were married to brunettes, while 22% of billionaires were married to blondes. Unquote. One also has to consider who these billionaires are; no doubt many of them are Arabic or Asian or Jewish! Many of them (especially those who have inherited their wealth) feel pressured into marrying within their own cultural group, which generally does not produce blondes!!! But how many stories have we heard about blonde 'models' being flown into Dubai or other such places to 'party' with these billionaires? We also have to remember that for many of these people (the ultra rich), marriage is a 'transaction' based on many things that does not nec. include love... Quote
DarkAngel_ Posted February 27, 2009 Report Posted February 27, 2009 Well i could not help looking at this topic with some humor as it adds up a valid point: how can one appear the way they want and not be deceived by others whom change appearances. (hence daddy saying 'those aren't the genes i wanted!') By example the question then leads me to think of early creationism belief, that you should be left the way 'god made you' even if you are ridiculously hideous beyond repair. but with this being put to the extreme think of it as such for a moment: should you keep your obnoxiously huge and ugly face or should you get that nose job and be superficial and materialist like every other American around me... don't worry i love my country (USA all the way) but without flaunting this question around like a new cancer or metabolic disease (me being a pharmaceutical company) i'll gift you you my point, a*) hair color due to race is often an attraction based trait, just as facial and other attractive qualities i'd be sued by the FCC for mentioning and we often mate in our racial circles or similar racial circles showing as how inter racial couples are not as common as most think globally. b*) due to the lack of being in sequence with our naturally occurring 'attractive selection' most don't care what their real hair color is... let alone their childrens. c*) no one wants to be alone in this world so loves a factor and i do think appearance alteration is unnatural, but not wrong. note everyone on this block would live a whole lot happier if the local Wal-mart did not look like a circus (though its nice to have a world with variety). reality is; some like the way they look, others don't care, don't care enough, or are not that rich. so the last thing to actually be answered is: if blond is trendy, is it due to culturalization? does it matter? no. people are people and hoping you can be a blond does not make you stronger, just a moron, or in the least moronic as not to insult. so for tonight i will grant that it is used for beauty often, but it does not matter, i will press toward a more intelligent reason for discussing hair color. (rather then Neo-Nazism... used up that card last poker night ) Quote men of freedom walk with guns in broad daylight, and as the weak are killed freedom becomes nothing but a dream...
RB Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Posted February 28, 2009 blondes beat brunettes in politics Politics is still the "boys" world, and unpopular, and very trying for women. A reason why I guess brunettes stay away if all that is going get mentioned is about legs, clothes size, generally the woman's anatomy e.g. Belinda Stronach. Quote
DarkAngel_ Posted March 1, 2009 Report Posted March 1, 2009 Politics is still the "boys" world, and unpopular, and very trying for women. A reason why I guess brunettes stay away if all that is going get mentioned is about legs, clothes size, generally the woman's anatomy e.g. Belinda Stronach. interestingly, the 'dying hair blond' trend is not common in politics...on contare: they are just blond! well no wonder! Quote men of freedom walk with guns in broad daylight, and as the weak are killed freedom becomes nothing but a dream...
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