lictor616 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) Meditation techniques of Buddhism arrive at much the same results (about the "emptiness" of matter) than Western super colliders. oh sorry I did'nt know Hottentots and Ubangis where Buddhists .. and what in the WORLD does "emptiness of matter" have to do with this conversation? Edited April 23, 2009 by lictor616 Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
benny Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 My culture...based on various ethics, I do feel is far superior to some others. Certainly better than those with no woman's rights, et al. Rights are external crutches useful only for those with a weak superego. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 Rights are external crutches useful only for those with a weak superego. Tell that to a woman buried up to her neck surrounded by bearded men holding rocks. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
lictor616 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) Tell that to a woman buried up to her neck surrounded by bearded men holding rocks. why even try dogonporch... benny is afflicted with a liberal hatred of our civilization... no point in reasoning with such a diseased mind... Edited April 23, 2009 by lictor616 Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
benny Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) oh sorry I did'nt know Hottentots and Ubangis where Buddhists .. and what in the WORLD does "emptiness of matter" have to do with this conversation? The more restrictive a comparison, the lesser value it has. Anyway, comparisons will never be appropriate evaluations. Edited April 23, 2009 by benny Quote
DogOnPorch Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 why even try dogonporch... benny is afflicted with a liberal hatred of our civilization... no point in reasoning with such a diseased mind... Many have this 'hatred'. I figure it's the same drive that makes folks question Moon Landings and such. Another purely random event that we 'lucked' onto. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
lictor616 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 You're dealing with some cultural relativists. We're all the same, etc. While I agree with them on some points, I agree with you that some cultures do promote more question asking than others. My culture...based on various ethics, I do feel is far superior to some others. Certainly better than those with no woman's rights, et al.Race has nothing to do with this, btw. It is purely a cultural 'thang'. All colours of humans excell under the freedom of Western Civilization. cultural relativists to the extent that the culture is not WESTERN... no: they HATE the West and Europe in general... and see it as an inferior one to the others (being all equal)... I disagree with you though that our Civilization is compatible with all people... Different people and ethnicities or "clines" produce DIFFERENT civilizations and cultures... I don't think that left to themselves Australian aboriginals would have ever risen to Western standards of technology .. ever... as we know from the fact that they were in south east asia and Australia for 64 000 years ... and with this all they could produce is the "didgeridoo" and some spears... lets agree to disagree on some issues.. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
benny Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 Tell that to a woman buried up to her neck surrounded by bearded men holding rocks. In the Western World, in similar situations, men are rather holding guns at women. Quote
lictor616 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 Many have this 'hatred'. I figure it's the same drive that makes folks question Moon Landings and such. Another purely random event that we 'lucked' onto. or the recent academic fraudulence of "Black Athens" or "Black Rome" ... or Black mozart... their purpose is to defile, deride, defame and destroy... if a theory puts down Europeans, or mocks our civilization... then it is a good theory... that's how these creatures think ... We've all seen what diseased hatreds fester under the skull of these people.. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
lictor616 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 "Race" as a genetic description is practically meaningless. For a geneticist, traditional views of race hold little explanatory power. For instance, the highest degree of genetic diversity in human populations is in sub-Saharan Africa. Compared to that, just about everyone else can pretty much be lumped into one big category, that is "non-Sub-Saharan African".The idea that people of a certain skin color have somehow lower IQs on average, when, in fact, those people come from populations far more genetically diverse than, say, anything you'd find between a European and a New World Indian is lunacy. The Victorian racial model failed because it did not explain actual molecular and phenotypic observations. Genes are not static, nor do they stay within any group, unless that group is completely cut off from the rest of the world (and the only time that that has happened for any substantial period was the Tasmanian Aborigines, cut off from Australia around 10,000 years ago by rising sea levels). It's true that different populations will have different percentages of certain genes, but trying to map individual genes to major and complex properties like "IQ" or "eye sight" is lunacy. What your espousing was the last attempt to uphold failed racial theories by incorporating overly simplified genetic models. It was rejected by the scientific community many years ago simply because it holds no explanatory power. If there is some mapping between genes and semi-arbitrary testing like IQ, it's considerably more complex than "Eurasians are smarter than Africans", which, as I point out, is a pretty questionable statement anyways, considering, as I said, that the highest degree of genetic dissimilarity between populations is in Africa. The reality is that humans, even the most diverse groups in Sub-Saharan Africa, are far more closely related than even some neighboring wild chimp populations. Just as importantly, the intelligence tests so often used to "prove" things like the Bell Curve are socio-economically and culturally biased that it's difficult to say whether they represent any kind of reality at all. every assertion made here is either a conscious fraud or a barefaced brazen lie... every single one. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
DogOnPorch Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 In the Western World, in similar situations, men are rather holding guns at women. Never run for office. Not that you'd get votes from women, anyways. their purpose is to defile, deride, defame and destroy... if a theory puts down Europeans, or mocks our civilization... then it is a good theory... See above. This fellow thinks women don't have rights in my country. Oooopsss...gotta run. There's a mass shooting of female adulterers in the town square...don't want be late or I can't buy ammo on site. It sounds wrong because, in my culture, it is wrong. The men don't meet to shoot wicked temptresses for showing an ankle in public, et al. Sounds like things might be a tad different over in "benny's" neck of the woods. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
benny Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 every assertion made here is either a conscious fraud or a barefaced brazen lie... every single one. An anger management program could help you accept that truth can be liberating. Quote
lictor616 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 An anger management program could help you accept that truth can be liberating. I,d probably need 3 weeks in a gulag and the oak table leg or chinese water drop torture technique to accept these absolutely outrageous fabrications.. (which a few posts earlier are completely refuted by a few citations of eminent biologists and studies asking all biologists and anthropologists their opinion on race) its a safe bet that you will never accept reality (if it contradicts your religion of egalitarianism)... like the fundamentalist christian, you'll come up with your own "creation science" to explain away the gross errors of your beleif system... Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
CANADIEN Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 Just how many times are you going to replay this racist canard? I've already explained why this notion that somehow certain groups can be genetically more likely to have some better intelligence is simply not substantiated by the evidence. You may have heard of the Crab Nebula, July 4, 1054. Reported in Chinese manuscripts of the time. Drawings found in New mexico. Not a word in any European texts. The first universities, the first hospitals were in the Arab world. Polynesians developed sea-faring techniques that allowed to populate most of the pacific, centuries before the Vikings Just three examples of why I agree with you about the notion that race or skin color is related to intellectual capacity or technological level. it's stupid at best, and just plain racist at worst. If the Australian Aborigenes had been living for 40000 years on the banks of the Rhine and the Thames, and if the Indo-Eeuropeans had been living on a certain island-continent, likelihood is that the Colomb, Galileo, Newton, Darwin, Hawkins and... alas, the Hitler, Stalin, Napoleon, Torquemada would have been Aborigenes. Quote
benny Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 I,d probably need 3 weeks in a gulag and the oak table leg or chinese water drop torture technique to accept these absolutely outrageous fabrications.. (which a few posts earlier are completely refuted by a few citations of eminent biologists and studies asking all biologists and anthropologists their opinion on race) its a safe bet that you will never accept reality (if it contradicts your religion of egalitarianism)... like the fundamentalist christian, you'll come up with your own "creation science" to explain away the gross errors of your beleif system... The uglier other people's shoes are, the easier for you to try to put them on you. Quote
CANADIEN Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 every assertion made here is either a conscious fraud or a barefaced brazen lie... every single one. Somehow, you got off my ignore list. You got something right for once. Which begs the question... since they are frauds and lies, why do you keep making those assertions? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 I,d probably need 3 weeks in a gulag and the oak table leg or chinese water drop torture technique to accept these absolutely outrageous fabrications.. (which a few posts earlier are completely refuted by a few citations of eminent biologists and studies asking all biologists and anthropologists their opinion on race)its a safe bet that you will never accept reality (if it contradicts your religion of egalitarianism)... like the fundamentalist christian, you'll come up with your own "creation science" to explain away the gross errors of your beleif system... Western Civilization has its own parasites and cancers, though. "Creation Science" certainly being one of them. One of these days, though, real scientists are going to find an Earth-like planet around another star. Maybe not with 'intelligent' life...that'd be quite rare...but one having some chemical evidence of life being present. I'm willing to bet in our lifetimes. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
benny Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 Somehow, you got off my ignore list.You got something right for once. Which begs the question... since they are frauds and lies, why do you keep making those assertions? Because behind his manifest superiority complex hides poorly, a latent inferiority complex. Quote
CANADIEN Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 Because behind his manifest superiority complex hides poorly, a latent inferiority complex. He reminds me of someone on another forum a few years back. The exact same garbage, Was banned when he claimed that torture of girls to turn into sex slaves was a characterist of the Jews. Quote
lictor616 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 Somehow, you got off my ignore list.You got something right for once. Which begs the question... since they are frauds and lies, why do you keep making those assertions? try to follow... I was responding to another members post ( i quoted his post ) and told him every assertion made "therein" was fraudulant Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
lictor616 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 Because behind his manifest superiority complex hides poorly, a latent inferiority complex. more ad hominem.. the trademark of the person without a valid argument... howabout answering previous posts of mine asking bioloigcal questions.. or the citations of the various studies denying your silly myth that races are figments of the imagination... you don't win the argument by attacking me personally... Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
benny Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 try to follow... I was responding to another members post ( i quoted his post ) and told him every assertion made "therein" was fraudulant How come you are able to look more easily into the consciousness of others than in your own conscience? Quote
CANADIEN Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 try to follow... I was responding to another members post ( i quoted his post ) and told him every assertion made "therein" was fraudulant That's because I followed that I know that the sum of what you write is a fraud and a lie. Not the part about human races. People with a life don't care about the existence of races (except scientists, and I bet most of them would be apalled at the way you use their works to spread hatres). Not even the bit about who did or didn't do what. The lie is the assumption that the intelligence, the dignity, the value and the rights of human beings is a function of race, regardless of how the term can be defined. Ultimately, though, you're not a liar. The whole of you is a lie. But a very funny and entertaining one, I must admit. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 How come you are able to look more easily into the consciousness of others than in your own conscience? When does a stopped clock tell the correct time twice a day? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
benny Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 more ad hominem.. the trademark of the person without a valid argument... howabout answering previous posts of mine asking bioloigcal questions.. or the citations of the various studies denying your silly myth that races are figments of the imagination... you don't win the argument by attacking me personally... I'm not here to answer questions, I'm here to moralize politics. Quote
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