Province wide amber alert in the middle the night for this? Give your head a shake!

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On 5/11/2026 at 1:21 AM, blackbird said:

Two children were abducted in Terrace BC, 2000 km by road from Vancouver and they woke up everyone they could in BC at 1 AM.

I’ve seen some stupid crap to complain about… this certainly takes the cake.

 

[blackbird]

14 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You're making the assumption that only local phones/residents were in the area when it's just as likely phones/people from outside the area were there driving trucks, travelling, or for any other number of reasons.  Amber alerts are not about you. 

As I said the amber alert should have been issued for the northwest area, not the whole province.  It turns out I was correct.

They found them in Burns Lake because of a tip from the public.  That is a distance of 349 KM from Terrace and is on highway 16 and about 3 hrs 49 minutes drive along Highway 16 from Terrace.  Highway 16 is the only route out of the northwest to get to Vancouver or other places via Prince George and that is the area the amber alert should have been given to, which it was, and not far distant areas a thousand or more km outside the northwest.  Surely the telephone company has the ability to issue it to specific areas if requested to do so.

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The short-lived BC Amber Alert issued early Monday is being credited with the safe return of two children.

RCMP said Terrace RCMP were informed May 10 that two children had been taken by an individual and the children may be in danger.

"Within 1.5 hours of the BC Amber Alert, tips were received; the children were located in the Burns Lake area within the suspect vehicle, and two individuals were ultimately taken into custody in relation to this incident," RCMP said in a media release.  unquote

Children found in Burns Lake due to successful use of Amber Alert - Castanet.net

Edited May 12 by blackbird

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, blackbird said:

As I said the amber alert should have been issued for the northwest area, not the whole province.  It turns out I was correct.

They found them in Burns Lake because of a tip from the public.  That is a distance of 349 KM from Terrace and is on highway 16 and about 3 hrs 49 minutes drive along Highway 16 from Terrace.  Highway 16 is the only route out of the northwest to get to Vancouver or other places via Prince George and that is the area the amber alert should have been given to, which it was, and not far distant areas a thousand or more km outside the northwest.  Surely the telephone company has the ability to issue it to specific areas if requested to do so.

"

The short-lived BC Amber Alert issued early Monday is being credited with the safe return of two children.

RCMP said Terrace RCMP were informed May 10 that two children had been taken by an individual and the children may be in danger.

"Within 1.5 hours of the BC Amber Alert, tips were received; the children were located in the Burns Lake area within the suspect vehicle, and two individuals were ultimately taken into custody in relation to this incident," RCMP said in a media release.  unquote

Children found in Burns Lake due to successful use of Amber Alert - Castanet.net

It should have been issued for the whole province, it's been explained to you why, you're basically complaining and whining because you lost 5 minutes of sleep because the police were making an effort to save children.

Never pretend to be a christian again

[LinkSoul60]

6 hours ago, blackbird said:

They didn't tell the public but it looks like they found them right in Terrace.  On the report I read they didn't say where they found them or give any details for some reason.  Withholding the  the details from the public?  Why?  Is it because they don't want us to know a province wide alert was a mistake.  They found the children and cancelled the amber alert at 3:30AM, 2-1/2 hours after it was issued.  That proves there was no need to send it out to whole province and wake everyone up 2,000 km away, including the millions of people in the lower Mainland and Vancouver Island who could have contributed absolutely nothing to help.  How is that helping in any way?  Common sense man is what is needed.

They found the children near Burns Lake, which is 4 hours away.  They said two people are in custody and can withhold as long as they like if it helps whatever it is they're looking at, besides the abduction. We'll hear about it when we're supposed to.  

The only things it proves is that the amber alert system works, and just how self-centred some people are because of an amber alert disrupting their sleep.  The concern is for the child/children, not the 'inconvenience' it may cause for some.

 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/article/there-has-to-be-a-better-way-some-bc-residents-want-the-amber-alert-system-to-change/

“The B.C. Amber Alert system worked exactly as intended, and because of that, these children were located quickly and safely,” Staff Sgt. Michael Bourguignon said in a news release.  

While Amber Alerts can be geographically targeted, a B.C. RCMP spokesperson said they’re usually sent province-wide in the interest of maximizing the chances of a “rapid and safe recovery” of abduction victims. 

“In all Amber Alert activations, the paramount consideration is the child’s immediate safety, and as such, the system emphasizes broad and rapid distribution rather than narrowly targeted geographic alerts,” Cpl. Brett Urano told CTV News in an email.

“Notifications include border crossings, ferries, airports, and activates highway signage. This wider distribution significantly increases the chances that someone will recognize key details and notify police, which is critical in time-sensitive investigations.”

The B.C. RCMP is authorized to send emergency alerts both independently and at the request of local police during Amber Alerts or civil emergencies. They serve not only as a means of spreading information, but also as a deterrent to prevent abductions in the first place, according to the RCMP.

[LinkSoul60]

6 hours ago, blackbird said:

You are making the foolish assumption.  I never said there should be no amber alert in the northwest area.  Of course there should be in the areas along highway 16 between Prince Rupert and Prince George and even down south of Prince George  perhaps as far as Williams Lake.  But putting out an alert farther than the woman could possibly travel doesn't make much sense.  You simply calculate the time she would have left Terrace in case she was planning to leave and calculate the possible places she could reach and alert those areas along the highway.  The RCMP probably alerted other forces in the towns along highway 16 so they would have been watching for her vehicle.  This whole thing had nothing to do with the cities and towns in southern BC and Vancouver Island or southeast BC.   Simple.  Not rocket science. 

You have no common sense if you don't believe that people/phones travel. Truck drivers, buses, and normal travellers  ware away from their local area codes all the time and certainly were in the area at the time the alert was issued.  Whether they happened to be driving then isn't known but who cares, send it to everyone.

“In all Amber Alert activations, the paramount consideration is the child’s immediate safety, and as such, the system emphasizes broad and rapid distribution rather than narrowly targeted geographic alerts,” Cpl. Brett Urano told CTV News in an email.

“Notifications include border crossings, ferries, airports, and activates highway signage. This wider distribution significantly increases the chances that someone will recognize key details and notify police, which is critical in time-sensitive investigations.”

 

You're trying to somehow justify why you're being self-centred. This wasn't about you or the other fools who complained because they were woken up, it was about abducted children and I'd bet my last nickel you wouldn't be complaining if those children happened to be near and dear to you, would you...  

[LinkSoul60]

6 hours ago, blackbird said:

Surely the telephone company has the ability to issue it to specific areas if requested to do so.

Seriously...  was it that much of an inconvenience to you?  If you were tired yesterday I trust you went to bed earlier last night to catch up and that 10 minutes you missed the night before.  

I understand that it takes all kinds to make the world go around but the complaining from you and others I saw in the media blows me away...   There are self-centred people everywhere but to complain about being inconvenienced by something as serious as an amber alert is down right selfish, in my humble opinion. 

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You have no common sense if you don't believe that people/phones travel. Truck drivers, buses, and normal travellers  ware away from their local area codes all the time and certainly were in the area at the time the alert was issued.  

I never said they shouldn't send it to truck drivers, buses, and travelers in the area.  Of course they should and likely did.  You are confused.  An amber alert should go out to everyone in a given area through the cell phone towers in that area.  It should reach everyone in the area regardless of where they came from.  The telecommunications system should be capable of doing that.

Edited May 13 by blackbird

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You have no common sense if you don't believe that people/phones travel. Truck drivers, buses, and normal travellers  ware away from their local area codes all the time and certainly were in the area at the time the alert was issued.  Whether they happened to be driving then isn't known but who cares, send it to everyone.

 

“In all Amber Alert activations, the paramount consideration is the child’s immediate safety, and as such, the system emphasizes broad and rapid distribution rather than narrowly targeted geographic alerts,” Cpl. Brett Urano told CTV News in an email.

“Notifications include border crossings, ferries, airports, and activates highway signage. This wider distribution significantly increases the chances that someone will recognize key details and notify police, which is critical in time-sensitive investigations.”

 

You're trying to somehow justify why you're being self-centred. This wasn't about you or the other fools who complained because they were woken up, it was about abducted children and I'd bet my last nickel you wouldn't be complaining if those children happened to be near and dear to you, would you...  

No I'm not self centred.  I just have common sense that you can't cope with. 

When fire fighters drop water on a forest fire, they don't go everywhere where there is no fire and drop the water.  The concentrate on the fire area.  But if throwing out false accusations makes you feel better somehow, go for it.

[LinkSoul60]

3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I never said they shouldn't send it to truck drivers, buses, and travelers in the area.  Of course they should and likely did.  You are confused.  An amber alert should go out to everyone in a given area through the cell phone towers in that area.  It should reach everyone in the area regardless of where they came from.  The telecommunications system should be capable of doing that.

That is there point of sending the alert to everyone with a cell phone number.  Sorry but I don't see an argument for doing otherwise, regardless if it's an inconvenience to some.

[LinkSoul60]

3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

No I'm not self centred.  I just have common sense that you can't cope with. 

When fire fighters drop water on a forest fire, they don't go everywhere where there is no fire and drop the water.  The concentrate on the fire area.  But if throwing out false accusations makes you feel better somehow, go for it.

So we got this straight....  You're complaining about being woken up at 1:00 AM for an alert of an abduction 1,300 km's away, and I can't cope?  With what...  my only problem is understanding why anyone would have issues with it.  

I can probably think of a dozen other analogies but an amber alert is for an abducted child/children that are/may be at risk.  It's not a fire, tree's grow back. I have no issues at all, but do think it's self-centred of someone to be more worried about their sleep than being inconvenienced by a mass amber alerts.

[blackbird]

21 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

So we got this straight....  You're complaining about being woken up at 1:00 AM for an alert of an abduction 1,300 km's away, and I can't cope?  With what...  my only problem is understanding why anyone would have issues with it.  

I can probably think of a dozen other analogies but an amber alert is for an abducted child/children that are/may be at risk.  It's not a fire, tree's grow back. I have no issues at all, but do think it's self-centred of someone to be more worried about their sleep than being inconvenienced by a mass amber alerts.

You're not capable of rational thinking.  Time to move along and accept the fact someone has a different opinion than you, which you can't understand.  You have to learn to respect other people's opinions without being insulting.  That's your big problem.  A difference in opinion is one thing, but when you can't take it without insulting, then you disqualified yourself from the discussion, much like some others on here who've been blocked for good reason.

[LinkSoul60]

25 minutes ago, blackbird said:

You're not capable of rational thinking.  Time to move along and accept the fact someone has a different opinion than you, which you can't understand.  You have to learn to respect other people's opinions without being insulting.  That's your big problem.  A difference in opinion is one thing, but when you can't take it without insulting, then you disqualified yourself from the discussion, much like some others on here who've been blocked for good reason.

Seriously....  I'm not capable of rationale thinking when you're put off because you receive one amber alert in the last how many years that went off at 1:00 AM. Be serious...  I respect yours, and others opinions but like I said, I think it's self-centred. That's my opinion, which you obviously don't respect. I won't block you though...

[blackbird]

26 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Seriously....  I'm not capable of rationale thinking when you're put off because you receive one amber alert in the last how many years that went off at 1:00 AM. Be serious...  I respect yours, and others opinions but like I said, I think it's self-centred. That's my opinion, which you obviously don't respect. I won't block you though...

 

Your insults show a flaw in your character. My opinion has nothing to do with self centeredness.  You feel superior.  Tough. 

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

They found the children near Burns Lake, which is 4 hours away.  They said two people are in custody and can withhold as long as they like if it helps whatever it is they're looking at, besides the abduction. We'll hear about it when we're supposed to.  

The only things it proves is that the amber alert system works, and just how self-centred some people are because of an amber alert disrupting their sleep.  The concern is for the child/children, not the 'inconvenience' it may cause for some.

 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/article/there-has-to-be-a-better-way-some-bc-residents-want-the-amber-alert-system-to-change/

“The B.C. Amber Alert system worked exactly as intended, and because of that, these children were located quickly and safely,” Staff Sgt. Michael Bourguignon said in a news release.  

While Amber Alerts can be geographically targeted, a B.C. RCMP spokesperson said they’re usually sent province-wide in the interest of maximizing the chances of a “rapid and safe recovery” of abduction victims. 

“In all Amber Alert activations, the paramount consideration is the child’s immediate safety, and as such, the system emphasizes broad and rapid distribution rather than narrowly targeted geographic alerts,” Cpl. Brett Urano told CTV News in an email.

“Notifications include border crossings, ferries, airports, and activates highway signage. This wider distribution significantly increases the chances that someone will recognize key details and notify police, which is critical in time-sensitive investigations.”

The B.C. RCMP is authorized to send emergency alerts both independently and at the request of local police during Amber Alerts or civil emergencies. They serve not only as a means of spreading information, but also as a deterrent to prevent abductions in the first place, according to the RCMP.

And this highlights a point.  4 hours away - now what if someone was heading to burns lake from  aruond 100 mile coming from vancouver.  They would have been 8 hours away from where the abduction happened, but would have been exactly where the kids were when they were found.  If they'd been excluded from the amber alert, they'd have been in the right place but unaware there was an issue. 

The kids come first , period

[LinkSoul60]

11 hours ago, blackbird said:

 

Your insults show a flaw in your character. My opinion has nothing to do with self centeredness.  You feel superior.  Tough. 

I've never professed to be a person of impeccable character. I have my flaws like everyone else, including you.  

Your opinion has everything to do with being self-centred. If it wasn't you'd have commented another way other than 'it woke everyone up at 1:00 AM'.  

This has nothing to do with feeling superior or being tough.  It's first and foremost about the measures taken to find child/children who have been abducted, but in this back and forth now, about how self-centred people can be when they're supposedly inconvenienced.