LinkSoul60 Posted Friday at 02:40 AM Report Posted Friday at 02:40 AM 3 hours ago, Army Guy said: first off NB does not rely on handouts, which is not much to start with the majority of hands outs goes to Quebec...They do more harm than good, every level of government should live within it's means....that's not complaining that basic advice...most people follow in their homes... Pipeline would be good, it would mean we would not have to buy foreign oil like NB does...As for the rest of your post your reaching puling sh!t out your a$$.... Liberals numbers have been dropping it seem not all his cabinet members like being yelled at they are soft liberals not used to some with a voice...that and people are getting tired of the empty promises with no results...even CBC is beginning to question them about all of it... NB absolutely gets equalization payments, so you benefit. I'm not sure why Quebec receives more, but will assume it has to do with the fact they have far more people than NB. I'm in BC which receives none. My life is still the same...but maybe now I can separate on my property because I haven't been treated fairly? Doing more harm than good is a matter of opinion. Some provinces in Canada don't have the ability to generate as much revenue as others. That said.... I've never put too much thought into it. You're talking about a West East pipeline. Quebecs the problem aren't they? Nothing pulled out of my áss with the AB stats. The stats I saw was ~27% for the smaller group of unhappy fools who wanted to separate because their choice of party didn't get elected federally. The large majority may be unhappy with past or current governments, but they're still Canadian and prefer to stay that way. Whatever, can't please everyone. But f you saw it on CBC, how do you know it's true? Quote
Army Guy Posted Friday at 10:45 PM Report Posted Friday at 10:45 PM 23 hours ago, John Johnston said: What fool would think that a Governing Party will fix "Everything"? Liberal voters....Carney promises.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted Friday at 11:22 PM Report Posted Friday at 11:22 PM 20 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: If you look at Carney's approval ratings, it appears that it's more than just liberals who have moved on. Do what you got to do though if complaining about Trudeau makes you feel better. I don't think I was 'complaining' about job losses and tariffs, but was definitely complaining about the guy most responsible for those job losses and tariffs. Huh... what does this mean? "job losses are the direct result of liberal inaction on the tariff file". Not following that...what liberal inaction leant itself to 25% - 50% tariffs? We've beat this one to death. You're of the opinion we should turtle and give Trump what he wants because 'we haven't carried our weight'. I'm in the camp that we don't agree to a deal unless it benefits us, regardless of how long it takes. We agree to disagree... I'm wondering though if you ever see or listen to Trump. Anyone with an ounce of common sense has figured out Carney is dealing with a petulant man child who has no idea what he wants, and generally influence by the last person he talks to. It is what it is... wait him out if that's what it takes. You say recruitment is not at a 30 year high but send me a link saying it is. What is the problem... the more recruitments you get the more will fail, and the more will pass. I'll assume it's always been that way. Why is recruits not being able to get through basic training a liberal problem? Seems to me that's more on the individual and parents rather than any political party. There's a few choices... lower the basic training standard, train the basic training applicants, or keep the same standards and better market the military as a top of mind choice for a younger persons career path. Yes i makes me feel better, it also reminds liberals voters that they suck at making good thought out decision when voting... Ya you were, and yes continued job losses are on the liberals inaction to solve the problem....but hey lets wait trump out see of that strategy actually works...none of the others have. sure, you can call it what ever you want, but to negotiate anything you have to be at the table, and the liberals have been absent for 8 months....Stop crying about tariffs and job losses and get the liberals back to the table....I have listened to trump, this is hois second term, so nothing he says or does is new to anyone....if Carney was so smart he'd should have figured that out, and know how to handle him....instead he insults him constantly, provokes him regularly, does not want to sit at the table to talk....Carney has done nothing....of any value towards the topic...and mean time your waiting him out is costing us jobs.... that on the liberals.... I take it you did not read the article, it explains that anyone can take a bunch of names and say recruitment is up when the military training system is collapsed onto itself....due to lack of instructors and funding....these young kids are not going to wait forever until the military gets it's shit in a knot....the military falls under the Liberal government they hold the power to make changes in command or policies.....the Current CDS is a DEI hire, kick her to the curb and get someone in there that can make changes.... one more time they have not trained the amount of recruits the media is claiming....those are the intake numbers, the problem is not enough instructors at basic training level , trades training level, and advanced courses level....see a pattern here....young people are not going to wait more than 2 years for the military to call them...they move on to do something else... To get more intact numbers they have lower the standards, both medically, and mentally....so a 300 lb person with mental issues can be accepted but can't meet any of the standards, is given a pass to meet quotas ....Quotas set by the government, see where the liberal come into all of this...and to top all of off, you no longer have to be a citizen , "anyone" can serve in the Canadian military....which set up a whole new set of problems, evident by problems with the first new batch of recruits from multiply backgrounds and countries...I guess it depends what you want....warriors, or a 300 lber that can not run across the parking lot, who is not even a citizen....it is bad enough Liberal government has made changes to dress and deportment, you can have nose rings, purple hair, man buns, beards, tampons in men's washrooms are a priority over simple and common sense things like training for combat...what the liberals don't get is this is people lives they are playing with.....lives like my son and daughter who are serving now.... Good soldiers are getting out because all these DEI policies and practices...being replaced by regular Canadians who could not walk across the parking lot....and yet not so long ago in Afghanistan the Average soldier had a ruck sack weighing in over a 100 Lbs, in 55 degree heat, in the mountains...and it strained harden soldiers....All of this is a result of liberal government and liberal direction....and if your good with that then sure but it is your son or daughter or other relative that is going to be forced into service and fight within this policies....don't worry funerals are paid for, so is a small contingent of soldiers if you qualify....plus as an added bonus you'll get to keep the flag that was draped over the aluminum coffin... 1 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted Friday at 11:33 PM Report Posted Friday at 11:33 PM 20 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: NB absolutely gets equalization payments, so you benefit. I'm not sure why Quebec receives more, but will assume it has to do with the fact they have far more people than NB. I'm in BC which receives none. My life is still the same...but maybe now I can separate on my property because I haven't been treated fairly? Doing more harm than good is a matter of opinion. Some provinces in Canada don't have the ability to generate as much revenue as others. That said.... I've never put too much thought into it. You're talking about a West East pipeline. Quebecs the problem aren't they? Nothing pulled out of my áss with the AB stats. The stats I saw was ~27% for the smaller group of unhappy fools who wanted to separate because their choice of party didn't get elected federally. The large majority may be unhappy with past or current governments, but they're still Canadian and prefer to stay that way. Whatever, can't please everyone. But f you saw it on CBC, how do you know it's true? Yes it got 3.1 bil in equalization payments in 2025....WOW i mean we are all eating steak now....instead of kraft dinner...My life will never be the same thanks for the welfare....NB can survive without 3.1 bil which is my point and several other past NB premiers... It does not matter what pipeline it is, liberals have made it almost impossible to build oner, not much point in discussing it...Carney has made some promises but it is all talk....the west east pipeline is a pipe dream...not going to happen... And i'm pretty sure Alberta's problems are more than just not getting their party elected.... CBC = liberal party media company....got to be true....i mean CBC is not bias right ?... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
LinkSoul60 Posted 22 hours ago Report Posted 22 hours ago On 6/12/2026 at 4:22 PM, Army Guy said: Yes i makes me feel better, it also reminds liberals voters that they suck at making good thought out decision when voting... Ya you were, and yes continued job losses are on the liberals inaction to solve the problem....but hey lets wait trump out see of that strategy actually works...none of the others have. sure, you can call it what ever you want, but to negotiate anything you have to be at the table, and the liberals have been absent for 8 months....Stop crying about tariffs and job losses and get the liberals back to the table....I have listened to trump, this is hois second term, so nothing he says or does is new to anyone....if Carney was so smart he'd should have figured that out, and know how to handle him....instead he insults him constantly, provokes him regularly, does not want to sit at the table to talk....Carney has done nothing....of any value towards the topic...and mean time your waiting him out is costing us jobs.... that on the liberals.... I take it you did not read the article, it explains that anyone can take a bunch of names and say recruitment is up when the military training system is collapsed onto itself....due to lack of instructors and funding....these young kids are not going to wait forever until the military gets it's shit in a knot....the military falls under the Liberal government they hold the power to make changes in command or policies.....the Current CDS is a DEI hire, kick her to the curb and get someone in there that can make changes.... one more time they have not trained the amount of recruits the media is claiming....those are the intake numbers, the problem is not enough instructors at basic training level , trades training level, and advanced courses level....see a pattern here....young people are not going to wait more than 2 years for the military to call them...they move on to do something else... To get more intact numbers they have lower the standards, both medically, and mentally....so a 300 lb person with mental issues can be accepted but can't meet any of the standards, is given a pass to meet quotas ....Quotas set by the government, see where the liberal come into all of this...and to top all of off, you no longer have to be a citizen , "anyone" can serve in the Canadian military....which set up a whole new set of problems, evident by problems with the first new batch of recruits from multiply backgrounds and countries...I guess it depends what you want....warriors, or a 300 lber that can not run across the parking lot, who is not even a citizen....it is bad enough Liberal government has made changes to dress and deportment, you can have nose rings, purple hair, man buns, beards, tampons in men's washrooms are a priority over simple and common sense things like training for combat...what the liberals don't get is this is people lives they are playing with.....lives like my son and daughter who are serving now.... Good soldiers are getting out because all these DEI policies and practices...being replaced by regular Canadians who could not walk across the parking lot....and yet not so long ago in Afghanistan the Average soldier had a ruck sack weighing in over a 100 Lbs, in 55 degree heat, in the mountains...and it strained harden soldiers....All of this is a result of liberal government and liberal direction....and if your good with that then sure but it is your son or daughter or other relative that is going to be forced into service and fight within this policies....don't worry funerals are paid for, so is a small contingent of soldiers if you qualify....plus as an added bonus you'll get to keep the flag that was draped over the aluminum coffin... That's a lot of liberal complaining, again... and pretty dramatic with the usual nonsensical talking points. Must be a conservative thing... You must have lively conversations with your children you say are in the military. They serve and you complain about it... Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted 22 hours ago Report Posted 22 hours ago On 6/12/2026 at 4:33 PM, Army Guy said: Yes it got 3.1 bil in equalization payments in 2025....WOW i mean we are all eating steak now....instead of kraft dinner...My life will never be the same thanks for the welfare....NB can survive without 3.1 bil which is my point and several other past NB premiers... It does not matter what pipeline it is, liberals have made it almost impossible to build oner, not much point in discussing it...Carney has made some promises but it is all talk....the west east pipeline is a pipe dream...not going to happen... And i'm pretty sure Alberta's problems are more than just not getting their party elected.... CBC = liberal party media company....got to be true....i mean CBC is not bias right ?... Those payments have nothing to do with you eating steak, or hot dogs. They have everything to do though with you having comparable public services like healthcare, education and social programs just like the 'have' provinces. Alberta's problem is Smith, and her small group of crying separatists. I'd even offer her a first class one-way ticket out of town with the others, who can sit in coach... Quote
Army Guy Posted 19 hours ago Report Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Those payments have nothing to do with you eating steak, or hot dogs. They have everything to do though with you having comparable public services like healthcare, education and social programs just like the 'have' provinces. Alberta's problem is Smith, and her small group of crying separatists. I'd even offer her a first class one-way ticket out of town with the others, who can sit in coach... My point is 3.1 bil does not enrich the province, and that the province could stand alone if it wanted to....it is welfare, free money that we don't need....lice within our means or raise taxes....it really that simple....i mean in the grand scheme of things 3.1 is peanuts... Not sure how you got Smith dragged into this thing she does not want to separate... and has said so many time in the media...Thew point of all this is things are not honky dory in Canada if we have 2 separatist groups in Canada, how about we sit down and listen for a second why is it they don't want to be part of the union....and maybe start doing something about it....instead of this retarded notion of keeping our resources in the ground, or just saying there is no business case for any of it....Liberal policy is keeping this nation from being the power house carney wants... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted 19 hours ago Report Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: That's a lot of liberal complaining, again... and pretty dramatic with the usual nonsensical talking points. Must be a conservative thing... You must have lively conversations with your children you say are in the military. They serve and you complain about it... It's all nonsensical because you have not taken the time to do some research, most Canadians have no idea how bad of shape our military is really in....because they really don't care....proof of that is it's current status....not nonsensical but facts.... You would think that peoples lives would have a greater impact on regular Canadians, but all of it is outside their little bubble, so they don't give a rats a$$...Carney cares because he is being forced to care by the US...he understands money, and that's what trump has got his hands around our trade....you and other don't like it because someone is forcing us to do what really should be doing all by ourselves.....one of governments prime functions the safety of Canadians...that includes our military members.... Perhaps you should talk to other military people and get their take, I'm sure they all have the same take as i do.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
LinkSoul60 Posted 19 hours ago Report Posted 19 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Army Guy said: My point is 3.1 bil does not enrich the province, and that the province could stand alone if it wanted to....it is welfare, free money that we don't need....lice within our means or raise taxes....it really that simple....i mean in the grand scheme of things 3.1 is peanuts... Not sure how you got Smith dragged into this thing she does not want to separate... and has said so many time in the media...Thew point of all this is things are not honky dory in Canada if we have 2 separatist groups in Canada, how about we sit down and listen for a second why is it they don't want to be part of the union....and maybe start doing something about it....instead of this retarded notion of keeping our resources in the ground, or just saying there is no business case for any of it....Liberal policy is keeping this nation from being the power house carney wants... The government's bottom line would look a lot better if we all said 'just raise our taxes' don't you think... Doesn't work that way though. Seems to me that Smith has been complimentary of Carney/Ottawa's change of position who is taking some heat from the environmentalist side of the caucus for what he's doing for those resources you say he wants to keep in the ground, or have you missed that? 'Not sure how Smith got dragged into this thing'....huh? She is the sole reason the fools are getting a voice in a referendum. Call it what you want but it's a relatively small group of complaining rural idi0ts that are a large part of hers and the Conservatives voting base that she needs to appease. Same with Quebec...there is nowhere near a majority that want to separate. You've lost and complain so much that you think any minority voice for separation is valid and should be catered to. It's simple for you and anyone else.... if you don't like Canada, leave. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted 19 hours ago Report Posted 19 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Army Guy said: It's all nonsensical because you have not taken the time to do some research, most Canadians have no idea how bad of shape our military is really in....because they really don't care....proof of that is it's current status....not nonsensical but facts.... You would think that peoples lives would have a greater impact on regular Canadians, but all of it is outside their little bubble, so they don't give a rats a$$...Carney cares because he is being forced to care by the US...he understands money, and that's what trump has got his hands around our trade....you and other don't like it because someone is forcing us to do what really should be doing all by ourselves.....one of governments prime functions the safety of Canadians...that includes our military members.... Perhaps you should talk to other military people and get their take, I'm sure they all have the same take as i do.... I've read enough about our military priorities, or past lack of, and funding that has us where we are today. I'm not as passionate about the military as you are though, nor am I as biased to not know that it was the Harper government who spent record lows in this area. So what if we're being forced into it. We're doing it and you're still bîtching.... what if anything would ever make you happy? If our military personnel is all like you and complaining about our liberals governments, god help us if we ever needed them... Quote
Army Guy Posted 19 hours ago Report Posted 19 hours ago 1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said: I've read enough about our military priorities, or past lack of, and funding that has us where we are today. I'm not as passionate about the military as you are though, nor am I as biased to not know that it was the Harper government who spent record lows in this area. So what if we're being forced into it. We're doing it and you're still bîtching.... what if anything would ever make you happy? If our military personnel is all like you and complaining about our liberals governments, god help us if we ever needed them... Well you can't really tell by your responses.....I guess that's because your life was not on the line, or you had to watched good friends pay the price for our governments bad decisions...And now i have my son and daughter lives to worry about....that may be a foreign concept to you, but to me not so much.... Well it's a good thing we can blame harper for something....and yet liberals had a chance to fix all of that and did nothing.. or very little....funny they don't call it the decade of darkness...oh the liberals had that honor.... I love the fact we are being force to act on something that we should have been doing all along....And the liberals have done very little as of today....lots of promises , but not so much action....kind of like everything carney touches... Ya that's funny, "god help you if you ever need them", I've meet lots of grateful Canadians fire fighting, floods, ice storms, they are very grateful when your doing something for them, and not once have the military refused to answer a CALL FROM CANADIANS....and get this most military personal are conservatives....Go figure... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
LinkSoul60 Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Well you can't really tell by your responses.....I guess that's because your life was not on the line, or you had to watched good friends pay the price for our governments bad decisions...And now i have my son and daughter lives to worry about....that may be a foreign concept to you, but to me not so much.... Well it's a good thing we can blame harper for something....and yet liberals had a chance to fix all of that and did nothing.. or very little....funny they don't call it the decade of darkness...oh the liberals had that honor.... I love the fact we are being force to act on something that we should have been doing all along....And the liberals have done very little as of today....lots of promises , but not so much action....kind of like everything carney touches... Ya that's funny, "god help you if you ever need them", I've meet lots of grateful Canadians fire fighting, floods, ice storms, they are very grateful when your doing something for them, and not once have the military refused to answer a CALL FROM CANADIANS....and get this most military personal are conservatives....Go figure... No, fortunately I chose a career path where my life wasn't on the line every day, and am glad my kids did too. I get you served which is appreciated and I can most certainly understand your concern for your children as they're serving, but don't be overly dramatic. Actually, we can blame Harper for a lot more but as far as military spending was concerned, he spent the least. I only point that out because all you do is say it's because of the liberals that our military is antiquated and undermanned. It didn't matter which party was in government, we didn't spend on our military as we should have. We're spending now so there you go. Do you think that the pressure from the US for our lack of military spending would be any different if Poilievre had won the election? They think he's Mitt Romney with a French accent. We'd be getting hammered... Not following though.... you're complaining at the lack of spending and now you're complaining of the spending.... odd. Yes, most people are appreciative of our military supporting distasters and providing that assistance. I wasn't aware that the majority of personnel are conservatives though... Is that a fact, or just the people you hung with? Quote
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