User Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 7 minutes ago, Army Guy said: we need to let the liberals start going to war for the nation, just to show them the realities of war... OK, listen up men, they killed Bob last night in a mortar attack, so we are only allowed to launch mortars randomly their direction all day today until they report we killed one of them. 1 Quote
John Stone Posted May 2 Report Posted May 2 22 hours ago, Army Guy said: we need to let the liberals start going to war for the nation, just to show them the realities of war... ............ hmmmmm..... it was Truman, known for his Fair Deal agenda that green-lighted the dropping of two atomic bombs. Quote
Army Guy Posted May 2 Report Posted May 2 2 hours ago, John Stone said: ............ hmmmmm..... it was Truman, known for his Fair Deal agenda that green-lighted the dropping of two atomic bombs. Wow you managed to find a liberal that served in a military...Most that served in todays Canadian military are conservatives....very few are liberals....why do you think that is ? 2 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
John Stone Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 15 hours ago, Army Guy said: Wow you managed to find a liberal that served in a military...Most that served in todays Canadian military are conservatives....very few are liberals....why do you think that is ? Diploma divide? Quote
User Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 21 hours ago, John Stone said: ............ hmmmmm..... it was Truman, known for his Fair Deal agenda that green-lighted the dropping of two atomic bombs. So you want Israel to nuke Gaza? Quote
Army Guy Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 6 hours ago, John Stone said: Diploma divide? Actually All officers must have a degree , and a large portion of NCM's have degrees in todays military.....Improving upon your existing education will get you more points on your yearly performance review....soldiers can also apply for higher education, attend a civilian school while still getting paid by the military....So the divide is not that great... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
User Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 7 hours ago, John Stone said: Diploma divide? Not really. At the moment where paths diverge no one really has a diploma yet. Quote
John Stone Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 30 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Actually All officers must have a degree , and a large portion of NCM's have degrees in todays military.....Improving upon your existing education will get you more points on your yearly performance review....soldiers can also apply for higher education, attend a civilian school while still getting paid by the military....So the divide is not that great... I do not say as a pejorative that less than ten percent of enlisted U.S. Armed Forces personnel have a college degree ........ and education has little to do with leadership ability. Young people enlist for many reasons that might include patriotism, romantic notions (big screen), escapism, adventure, trade training opportunities, etc. Generally, on enlistment as commissioned, requires at least a BA ....... the higher education proves to a degree that the individual has the proven capacity to learn, better bet(?) ..... says nothing about leadership tho. A fact is that college educated young adults lean liberal /Democrat..............ideology has zero to do with leadership but the chances are that although there are more right-leaning rank/file numerically, those leading them are left leaning / Democrat. In any event ............. a nation definitely desires an apolitical military .......... ideology has no place when ur leading. Quote
Legato Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 1 hour ago, John Stone said: A fact is that college educated young adults lean liberal /Democrat..............ideology has zero to do with leadership but the chances are that although there are more right-leaning rank/file numerically, those leading them are left leaning / Democrat. That's new, fast food servers are now a wartime division. Weapons grade spatulas, here we come!!!! Quote
John Stone Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 13 hours ago, Legato said: That's new, fast food servers are now a wartime division. Weapons grade spatulas, here we come!!!! ............. high unemployment and recruitment have always been a direct relationship. Even more so if physical requirements, age are relaxed. ...... arguably even those with a bone-spur deferment (5x) would be accepted today. 😅 Quote
John Johnston Posted May 4 Author Report Posted May 4 1 hour ago, John Stone said: ............. high unemployment and recruitment have always been a direct relationship. Even more so if physical requirements, age are relaxed. ...... arguably even those with a bone-spur deferment (5x) would be accepted today. 😅 Well as we can see Hegseth has done a remarkable job remaking the Armed Forces. 13 Dead, 415 Injured and no achievable objectives other than a closed straight and really pissed off people around the world. Good Job Pete. Imagine if he was an actual full time day Fox Host? Then we would be cooking with gas.... 😏 Quote
User Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 1 hour ago, John Johnston said: Well as we can see Hegseth has done a remarkable job remaking the Armed Forces. 13 Dead, 415 Injured and no achievable objectives other than a closed straight and really pissed off people around the world. Good Job Pete. Imagine if he was an actual full time day Fox Host? Then we would be cooking with gas.... 😏 Well, when you have to lie about no achievable objectives to make your point… Quote
John Johnston Posted May 4 Author Report Posted May 4 17 minutes ago, User said: Well, when you have to lie about no achievable objectives to make your point… What has been achieved? Thirteen dead serviceman. 415 Servicemen injured. Thousands of civilians including the bombing of a school, with hundreds of dead kids. A closed straight and complete disaster. American Exceptionalism on Long Play. Quote
Legato Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 12 minutes ago, John Johnston said: What has been achieved? Thirteen dead serviceman. 415 Servicemen injured. Thousands of civilians including the bombing of a school, with hundreds of dead kids. A closed straight and complete disaster. American Exceptionalism on Long Play. and Iran's nuclear ambitions tossed into a cocked hat, their ability to arm and fund numerous terrorist groups around the globe destroyed and the evil basterds pushing this twisted ideology all now with their 72 Virginians. So nothing achieved? Eyes wide shut. 1 Quote
Legato Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 3 hours ago, John Stone said: ............. high unemployment and recruitment have always been a direct relationship. Even more so if physical requirements, age are relaxed. ...... arguably even those with a bone-spur deferment (5x) would be accepted today. 😅 That's new, fast food servers are now a wartime division. Weapons grade spatulas, here we come!!!! Quote
User Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 33 minutes ago, John Johnston said: What has been achieved? Thirteen dead serviceman. 415 Servicemen injured. Thousands of civilians including the bombing of a school, with hundreds of dead kids. A closed straight and complete disaster. American Exceptionalism on Long Play. “Complete disaster” You are completely unhinged. Quote
John Stone Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 37 minutes ago, Legato said: and Iran's nuclear ambitions tossed into a cocked hat, their ability to arm and fund numerous terrorist groups around the globe destroyed and the evil basterds pushing this twisted ideology all now with their 72 Virginians. So nothing achieved? Eyes wide shut. ............... tell it to the families, dude. Quote
John Stone Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 2 hours ago, John Johnston said: Well as we can see Hegseth has done a remarkable job remaking the Armed Forces. 13 Dead, 415 Injured and no achievable objectives other than a closed straight and really pissed off people around the world. Good Job Pete. Imagine if he was an actual full time day Fox Host? Then we would be cooking with gas.... 😏 .......... agreed, U.S. global, so-called 'soft power' is on the decline. It was their oxygen. 1.2 Trillion $$ buys a lot of 'soft power' ...................... or health care. Quote
User Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 15 minutes ago, John Stone said: ............... tell it to the families, dude. Tell what to which families? 11 minutes ago, John Stone said: .......... agreed, U.S. global, so-called 'soft power' is on the decline. It was their oxygen. 1.2 Trillion $$ buys a lot of 'soft power' ...................... or health care. You people have no connection to reality or the truth. Quote
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John Stone Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 (edited) 6 minutes ago, User said: Edited May 4 by John Stone Quote
Legato Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 3 hours ago, John Stone said: ............... tell it to the families, dude. nd Iran's nuclear ambitions tossed into a cocked hat, their ability to arm and fund numerous terrorist groups around the globe destroyed and the evil basterds pushing this twisted ideology all now with their 72 Virginians. So nothing achieved? Eyes wide shut. Dude? Lol. 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 On 5/3/2026 at 5:16 PM, John Stone said: I do not say as a pejorative that less than ten percent of enlisted U.S. Armed Forces personnel have a college degree ........ and education has little to do with leadership ability. Young people enlist for many reasons that might include patriotism, romantic notions (big screen), escapism, adventure, trade training opportunities, etc. Generally, on enlistment as commissioned, requires at least a BA ....... the higher education proves to a degree that the individual has the proven capacity to learn, better bet(?) ..... says nothing about leadership tho. A fact is that college educated young adults lean liberal /Democrat..............ideology has zero to do with leadership but the chances are that although there are more right-leaning rank/file numerically, those leading them are left leaning / Democrat. In any event ............. a nation definitely desires an apolitical military .......... ideology has no place when ur leading. There is no data kept to give an exact number of how many Jr NCO have degrees, i was going off my experience in my career... And your right a civilian university degree does not teach leadership as a topic, however in the Canadian military, officer candidates are offer two programs, described below, if you already have your education completed then there is a direct enter plan, do officer basic training and then advanced trades training... How ever if you want to have your education paid for, one could take up the ROTP, this direction allows you to complete your degree, plus receive Leadership training...We call this group Ring knockers....And trust me not to many liberals in any military university, or training school....Not saying there is no liberals in the military they are just few and far between....it is the culture, and the Job that at least in the army does not have to many liberal values, or morals....I would think it is the same for the Navy, Air force but i don't have any experience in those areas... Officer training in the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) begins with the intensive 12-week Basic Military Officer Qualification (BMOQ) at the Canadian Forces Leadership and Recruit School (CFLRS) in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, Quebec. This program focuses on leadership, military law, weapons handling, and physical fitness. Following BMOQ, officers undertake occupation-specific training. [1, 2, 3] Key Aspects of Officer Training Basic Military Officer Qualification (BMOQ): This program, also known as Basic Training for Officers, is designed to transition civilians into military leaders, focusing on discipline, physical resilience, and leadership skills. Entry Plans: Regular Officer Training Plan (ROTP): Candidates attend the Royal Military College of Canada (RMC) or a civilian university, with tuition paid by the CAF, graduating as a Commissioned Officer. Direct Entry Officer (DEO): For those who already possess a university degree, they proceed directly to BMOQ and then occupational training. Training Structure: BMOQ is physically and mentally demanding, with training including field exercises, land navigation, and obstacle courses. Occupation-Specific Training: Following BMOQ, officers are trained in their specific trade (e.g., Pilot, Engineer, Infantry) at various training centres across Canada, such as the Combat Training Centre in Gagetown, NB Which ever path you choose every soldier or officer is required to complete leadership training along the way, for JR NCO's your first step in leadership training is JLC, not sure what they call it now, but it is a prerequisite to getting promoted to Master Corporal, then your next is when promoted to SGT for most Combat arms trades, then WO, MWO, and CWO each rank you must pass this leadership block in order to get promoted... What your forgetting is once you join the military they will give you all the Ideology you can handle, and not much of it reflects liberals moral and values...There is not much room for it....and if you show any of those traits it is normally beat out of you... Trust me, when i say most of the leadership in the Canadian military are not liberal minded, It is the job of every Snr NCO to mentor all Junior officers and they do not tolerate very many liberal traits...it is beaten out of them at an early stage.... The Canadian military use to be Apolitical, ands to a certain point it is, for instance we are not allow to voice any political opinion to the any media, or civilians...one can not volunteer to help with any political campaign, not run for any governmental position, at any level...Can not attend any political protest, of any kind...the is many more but in todays world it is hard to stay neutral politically, or stay silenced about it any way...It is a good way to end a career. Here in Canada Liberals are not military friendly...Unless forced by our neighbors down south... Every job has a ideology attached to it, Military is no exception....One must remember that a lot of jobs in the military one might have to take a life, and are taught a much different set of morals and values than one might find in a liberal mind set. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 8 hours ago, John Johnston said: What has been achieved? Thirteen dead serviceman. 415 Servicemen injured. Thousands of civilians including the bombing of a school, with hundreds of dead kids. A closed straight and complete disaster. American Exceptionalism on Long Play. Here is an example of a victory, for Canadian soldiers on Vimy ridge....look at what it cost the Bristish and french, previously on attacks on the same position....100,000 Casualties now that was a disaster.... 13 dead and 415 wounded while tragic, is not a disaster... The Battle of Vimy Ridge (April 9–12, 1917) resulted in over 10,600 total Canadian casualties, with 3,598 killed and approximately 7,000 wounded. The victory was a defining moment for Canada in World War I, though it came at a high cost, with nearly 75% of casualties occurring on the first day. [1, 2, 3] Key Casualty Figures (Canadian Corps): Total Casualties: ~10,600–11,776 (killed, wounded, missing) Fatalities: 3,598 dead Wounded: ~7,000–7,004 [1, 2, 3, 4] Context and Significance: Four Divisions: For the first time, all four divisions of the Canadian Corps fought together. Previous Failed Attempts: Before the Canadian assault, previous French and British efforts to take the ridge resulted in over 100,000 casualties. Vimy Memorial: The Canadian National Vimy Memorial in France bears the names of 11,285 Canadian soldiers who died in France and have no known grave, representing the broader cost of the war. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
John Johnston Posted May 5 Author Report Posted May 5 8 hours ago, Army Guy said: Here is an example of a victory, for Canadian soldiers on Vimy ridge....look at what it cost the Bristish and french, previously on attacks on the same position....100,000 Casualties now that was a disaster.... 13 dead and 415 wounded while tragic, is not a disaster... The Battle of Vimy Ridge (April 9–12, 1917) resulted in over 10,600 total Canadian casualties, with 3,598 killed and approximately 7,000 wounded. The victory was a defining moment for Canada in World War I, though it came at a high cost, with nearly 75% of casualties occurring on the first day. [1, 2, 3] Key Casualty Figures (Canadian Corps): Total Casualties: ~10,600–11,776 (killed, wounded, missing) Fatalities: 3,598 dead Wounded: ~7,000–7,004 [1, 2, 3, 4] Context and Significance: Four Divisions: For the first time, all four divisions of the Canadian Corps fought together. Previous Failed Attempts: Before the Canadian assault, previous French and British efforts to take the ridge resulted in over 100,000 casualties. Vimy Memorial: The Canadian National Vimy Memorial in France bears the names of 11,285 Canadian soldiers who died in France and have no known grave, representing the broader cost of the war. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] What the F@ck does that have to do with the disaster that is Trump and Hegseth? Quote
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