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6 hours ago, August1991 said:

Point 2?

Any Canadian politician - has more leverage - than Mark Carney.

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Heck, Trump put a card in the hand of the PQ. 

We are dealing with a Psychopath with Dementia. There is no leverage. Never was. Never will be until he is dust. Period. 

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On 4/23/2026 at 7:34 AM, John Johnston said:

We are dealing with a Psychopath with Dementia. There is no leverage. Never was. Never will be until he is dust. Period. 

 

You hate Trump? OK. You suffer from TDS.

Trump is no psychopath. 

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IMHO, Carney is a typical ambitiious LSE, BMO, GoldmanSachs Harvard PhD guy.

Trump is a typical ambitious Wharton guy.

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Note to Carney: We Canadians get along with our neighbours.

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I don't know why you Cannucks bother, you want to do what was that, elbows up to a economy thirteen times your size and think you have any real leverage? It's an irritation to America sure, but for Canada, it's catastrophic. And its not like America even wants that for Canada, we offered you the best deal in the entire planet; statehood!

So, you can choose to be Americans or you can be third world Americans. Those are the hands you're dealt.

Canadians are their own worse enemy.

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59 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Greatest presidential president ever!

The question is not whether the United States is a great country - it is! 

The question is whether it will remain  a great country. 

The U.S. is being ruled by a leader who sees himself as C-in-C of only  1/2 the country and relishes it, promotes it, grooms it!  

The first 6 months of the second Trump administration have been characterized by a haphazard yet comprehensive evisceration of basic government institutions.  From the mass firing of federal workers to the effective shuttering of entire agencies, Trump and  his billionaire allies have pillaged public-serving institutions while giving themselves cover by claiming to promote 'efficiency'. 

A present  example is the clown-show negotiations with Iran - the Diplomatic Corps is gone - in its stead the country is left with Witkoff and Kushner? 

Supposedly Just-Do-It Vance when  he does show up doesn't realize he's negotiating with the Iranian, coffee boy - arguably Iran is schooling he US  - greatest example of international trolling the World has ever seen.   

Indeed, the question IS whether it will remain  a great country...........no allies, raging inflation and counting China, NK and Russia as it's (only?) allies.................... who will be like tigers at a feast or jackals arguing over a corpse. 

Ottoman empire come lately?

Hope not. 

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23 minutes ago, John Stone said:

Ottoman empire come lately?

This is where most people get it wrong. This isn’t a one off, a Trump issue. The demographic picture has shifted, there is no longer a burgeoning supply of young people to support a consumption based economy in the developed world. That has implication for security as well as economic. Our wealth and security is underpinned by our children and that’s the reason why the western world is in a managed declined. That is other than America since our Baby boomers did have children. Yours didn’t.

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2 hours ago, paxamericana said:

This is where most people get it wrong. This isn’t a one off, a Trump issue. The demographic picture has shifted, there is no longer a burgeoning supply of young people to support a consumption based economy in the developed world. That has implication for security as well as economic. Our wealth and security is underpinned by our children and that’s the reason why the western world is in a managed declined. That is other than America since our Baby boomers did have children. Yours didn’t.

On the contrary, the U.S. fertility rate has significantly declined, reaching a record low of around 1.5 kids / female in recent years ......... which is  far below the 2.1  replacement level needed  to sustain population growth ......... without immigration. 

I believe Canada has the same problem ......... but the 'maw' of requirement is much less (less overall  population)

As far as the U.S. goes tho is that the backfill of immigrants required will likely be a generation of resentment - raised in an  environment  of  persecution, racism, discrimination and violence.

I think  we can agree that DHS (ICE) suffers from Xenophobia to an alarming degree - beginning at the very top.

Oh, yes........... there's going to be trouble in river city........ civil unrest, race riots, weaponized immigration control 

If ur colored in the US, no matter ur official standing re: citizenship or pathway to, there is no protection for ya, and  that's regardless of age. 

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6 hours ago, John Stone said:

the U.S. fertility rate has significantly declined, reaching a record low of around 1.5 kids / female in recent years ......... which is  far below the 2.1  replacement level needed  to sustain population growth ......... without immigration.

Only since 2010, Canada and much of Europe went below replacement fertility in the 70s. That’s the difference.

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13 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Only since 2010, Canada and much of Europe went below replacement fertility in the 70s. That’s the difference.

...........not according to CDC - Robert F. Kennedy jr. (Secretary of Health)

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On 4/25/2026 at 8:37 AM, paxamericana said:

I don't know why you Cannucks bother, you want to do what was that, elbows up to a economy thirteen times your size and think you have any real leverage? It's an irritation to America...

I agree.

I'm a Mulroney/Reagan, Chretien/Clinton kinda Canadian.

Nixon/Trudeau, I understand. We have leverage.

Carney/Trump, new world.

 

 

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On 4/28/2026 at 3:17 AM, August1991 said:

Carney/Trump, new world.

No I think the structure of the Canadian confederation is unsustainable. It’s taking money from one province to give to another in an age when you are all mass retiring. Each province trade more with the United States than with each other. That’s no coincidence. As soon as one province breaks away the entire house of card crumbles. It’s not a matter of if, it is a matter of when!? The real reason Ontario paid for Quebec to remain part of Canada is access to the St Lawrence seaway. Remove Quebec and what’s left of Ontario but an isolated landlocked province? 

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On 4/29/2026 at 10:26 AM, paxamericana said:

No I think the structure of the Canadian confederation is unsustainable. It’s taking money from one province to give to another in an age when you are all mass retiring. Each province trade more with the United States than with each other. That’s no coincidence. As soon as one province breaks away the entire house of card crumbles. It’s not a matter of if, it is a matter of when!? The real reason Ontario paid for Quebec to remain part of Canada is access to the St Lawrence seaway. Remove Quebec and what’s left of Ontario but an isolated landlocked province? 

You make a valid point. Maybe. But this guy Carney is a supposed federal Liberal who wants to keep Canada together.

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Carney's now doing deals with China, buying jets from Sweden. He should be getting along with Americans.

In the Cold War, Trudeau Snr flew to Cuba. The Cold War ended in 1989.

 

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We're supposed to be negotiating an agreement not a 'deal'.
IN other words a mutually beneficial one not a game where someone has to win and the other lose.

Which is exactly how Trump defines the word deal in his mind.

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On 6/11/2026 at 9:04 AM, Barquentine said:

No reason he can't do both. Trump is the only barrier, but he's in a downward spiral.

Disagree.

1. Trump/America are not in a downward spiral.

2. Canadians primarily deal with Americans. We Canadians would be foolish to break our ties.

3. China? Canada China deal? Gimme a break.   

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6 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Google how much trade the US does with China. Why shouldn't we do the same? Gimme a break.

 

18 hours ago, August1991 said:

Disagree.

1. Trump/America are not in a downward spiral.

2. Canadians primarily deal with Americans. We Canadians would be foolish to break our ties.

3. China? Canada China deal? Gimme a break.   

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In 2024, the total trade between the U.S. and China amounted to approximately $660.7 billion, with the U.S. importing $461.4 billion and exporting $199.3 billion.

 

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In 2025, Canada and China conducted $124.8 billion in two-way merchandise trade, with Canada exporting $34.1 billion and importing $90.6 billion from China.

18 hours ago, August1991 said:

Disagree.

1. Trump/America are not in a downward spiral.

2. Canadians primarily deal with Americans. We Canadians would be foolish to break our ties.

3. China? Canada China deal? Gimme a break.   

Trump is basically finished. He cannot complete a full sentence or stay awake for more than a couple minutes. And that is the just the beginning of his stoopidity. 

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16 hours ago, John Johnston said:

Canada and China

Look, when America says jump, Canada asks how high. That’s the way it going to be. Don’t like it? Then petition for statehood and you can get a say. Else you’re just squatting on America’s continental island. + @John Stone

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