Army Guy Posted April 27 Report Posted April 27 4 hours ago, BeaverFever said: None of that is true. And in fact CUSMA explicitly allows both countries to impose dairy restrictions and USA has more dairy import restrictions and subsidies than we do. We import more US dairy than they import from us. Watch this video it will explain every thing .... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted April 27 Report Posted April 27 19 hours ago, BeaverFever said: That’s false. Chretien did not “send troops” to Iraq, period in any sense of the term. Please stop repeating that nonsense. We also did not send troops to Vietnam, we maintained relations with Cuba, we have stood up to US before. Not enough IMO and that’s as much to do with the fact that our business class has been US-aligned for generations. You’ve watched too many Hollywood movies and overestimate the “greatness” of USA and underestimate Canada’s advantages. In regards to trade, We will see this summer what happens, ....your pulling to much from your a$$ to continue that conversation... Nonsense....Again your pulling stuff from your a$$...Chretien did authorize troops deployed to the region.... Chretien did send troops to Iraq, he authorized more than 200 imbedded with American units that took part in the invasion itself...Plus a little later, he authorized all the below link... https://www.veterans.gc.ca/en/remembrance/military-history/gulf-war 20 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Another revisionist history lesson. I will remind you Carney’s platform was released well in advance of PP’s. Carney was campaigning on Trumps tariffs while PP was sticking to “just like Justin” all the way to the final few week. Only when it was far too late in the campaign did PP realize his mistake so he delayed his platform release to rewrite it at the 11th hour, mostly with ideas borrowed from Carney. You make this stuff up as you go.....this is well documented in the media....do some research... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted April 27 Report Posted April 27 20 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Another revisionist history lesson. I will remind you Carney’s platform was released well in advance of PP’s. Carney was campaigning on Trumps tariffs while PP was sticking to “just like Justin” all the way to the final few week. Only when it was far too late in the campaign did PP realize his mistake so he delayed his platform release to rewrite it at the 11th hour, mostly with ideas borrowed from Carney. Following his election as Prime Minister in 2025, Mark Carney has been described as adopting several core policy planks previously championed by Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre (PP). These moves, often labeled by critics as "political plagiarism" or "counterfeit Conservatism," are designed to move the Liberal Party rightward on fiscal and economic issues to neutralize Conservative strengths. The Globe and Mail +3 Key ideas and policy reversals reported as being borrowed from Poilievre include: Scrapping the Consumer Carbon Tax: One of Carney's first actions was to "axe the tax" on gasoline and heating fuels, effectively adopting Poilievre's central 2025 campaign mantra. Reversing Capital Gains Tax Increases: Carney announced his government would not proceed with the planned increase to the capital gains inclusion rate (from 50% to 66.7%), a hike the Conservatives had strongly opposed. Tax Reductions for Lower Income Bracket: Carney initiated a 1-percentage-point cut to the lowest personal income tax bracket, matching a tax-cut promise made by Poilievre, though described by critics as less substantial. Reducing Federal Bureaucracy: Adopting the Conservative focus on "cutting red tape," Carney's government announced reductions in the size of the public service, including workforce adjustment notices. Reversing EV Mandates: Carney overturned the Trudeau-era mandate requiring 100% of new car sales to be electric by 2035, a policy Poilievre campaigned against. Pro-Resource Development Tone: Carney adopted a more supportive stance toward energy projects, including favoring pipeline development (specifically referencing an East Coast pipeline) to move Alberta bitumen to market, similar to Poilievre's "nation-building" rhetoric. GST Relief on New Homes: Carney implemented GST relief for new home construction, aligning with the Conservative proposal to remove taxes to boost housing supply. Rhetorical Shifts: Carney began using similar language in speeches, echoing Poilievre's focus on the "Canadian promise," "hard work," and "safe streets". Facebook +9 While adopting these policies, Carney has been criticized for keeping certain Liberal policies in place—such as the industrial carbon tax—that Poilievre promised to eliminate. EnergyNow +1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted April 27 Report Posted April 27 Trade news from the US... This is not just a trump issue, this is our nation cheating on Cusma.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
LinkSoul60 Posted April 27 Report Posted April 27 On 4/25/2026 at 6:52 PM, Army Guy said: By all means Canada has to look after ourselves....But the Auto industry is not Canadian....the US has allowed us to be a part of it...Now they want it back....because they have shed to many jobs over seas...Canada should be bringing in other manufacturers to full those voids.. Just not Chinese... Right now the existing supply chain is not working with the tariffs....the manufactures understand this which is why there is movement back down south....as you have said... Plenty of European car manufactures could move here to fill the domestic market....or we continue to buy US made cars...My point is those other car manufacturers don't have tariffs do they... IF Harpers policies where so bad...why would the liberals not change them ?....they did not think it was that bad, they agreed with those policies or just to damn lazy....either way they had 11 years to correct or change them....they must of been good with those Harper polices....And when it comes to investments leaving the country, "1 trillion" has left since 2015, thousands of times larger than when harper was in charge....basically your deflecting because of bad liberal decision have really hurt our nation... Go for it, the liberals on here do it every day , you seem to think it is a one way street bi7ch away it is about the only thing that is free ........ We are broken records because the liberals give us so much ammo.... Logically, you'd think there has been discussion with European and other country car makers but we are where we are. Yes, tariffs are hurting the industry and again why we and US auto makers need to keep reinforcing that in hopes Trump comes to his senses. Regardless, charge ahead with Chinese autos as agreed to and keep exploring the possibility of manufacturing here. I've said the industry was moving more investments south to the US or Mexico through both Harper and Trudeau so hard to point it on a convervative or liberal government, although you're naturally going to say it's the liberals fault the industry has lessened over the decades. Yep... all you guys do is complain and b1tch every day about anything left or liberal. Whatever, it is what it is... Quote
Army Guy Posted April 28 Report Posted April 28 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: Logically, you'd think there has been discussion with European and other country car makers but we are where we are. Yes, tariffs are hurting the industry and again why we and US auto makers need to keep reinforcing that in hopes Trump comes to his senses. Regardless, charge ahead with Chinese autos as agreed to and keep exploring the possibility of manufacturing here. I've said the industry was moving more investments south to the US or Mexico through both Harper and Trudeau so hard to point it on a convervative or liberal government, although you're naturally going to say it's the liberals fault the industry has lessened over the decades. Yep... all you guys do is complain and b1tch every day about anything left or liberal. Whatever, it is what it is... Well at least now your saying the liberals had a hand in it...11 years worth anyways.... Well your party is in opposition, you can biIch all you want as well, It is after all guaranteed in our charter of rights...for now any ways... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
LinkSoul60 Posted April 28 Report Posted April 28 20 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Well at least now your saying the liberals had a hand in it...11 years worth anyways.... Well your party is in opposition, you can biIch all you want as well, It is after all guaranteed in our charter of rights...for now any ways... Doesn't matter the party, investment has been going more to Mexico or the US for the last 25 years. EV build out has brought some investment back and is a growing category that will hopefully lead to more investment down the road. Until then... get whatever we can hammered out with the US on these tariffs while going down the EV auto strategy path. Quote
Goddess Posted April 28 Report Posted April 28 (edited) 16 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Doesn't matter the party, investment has been going more to Mexico or the US for the last 25 years. You keep saying this to defend the Liberal record, but you're wrong. I get that YOU think they're economic geniuses, but they're not. We kept pretty much on par with the US for most of the time, our ups & downs coincided with their own ups & downs, indicating it can be blamed more on outside factors. The majority of our decline happened in the last decade. It's why everyone is calling it "The Lost Liberal Decade". Edited April 28 by Goddess Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
LinkSoul60 Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 10 hours ago, Goddess said: You keep saying this to defend the Liberal record, but you're wrong. I get that YOU think they're economic geniuses, but they're not. We kept pretty much on par with the US for most of the time, our ups & downs coincided with their own ups & downs, indicating it can be blamed more on outside factors. The majority of our decline happened in the last decade. It's why everyone is calling it "The Lost Liberal Decade". We're talking the auto industry genius... And yet again, you're not going to hear me defend Trudeau's economic record. Appreciate the insight though. Quote
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