paxamericana Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 (edited) Sounds like reasonable expectation in a war time situation; which we are in. Especially if that leak directly endangers the lives of our armed forces. In the case of leaking the airman being downed, that information should have been kept secret until he was recovered. The leaking source is not immune to prosecution in the first amendment. Now the news journalists could still be prosecuted under the Espionage Act for releasing information that aided the enemy. But first amendment defense is steep for the publication outlet and journalist. At best would result in a fine. Edited April 7 by paxamericana 2 1 Quote
John Stone Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 10 hours ago, paxamericana said: Sounds like reasonable expectation in a war time situation; which we are in. Especially if that leak directly endangers the lives of our armed forces. In the case of leaking the airman being downed, that information should have been kept secret until he was recovered. The leaking source is not immune to prosecution in the first amendment. Now the news journalists could still be prosecuted under the Espionage Act for releasing information that aided the enemy. But first amendment defense is steep for the publication outlet and journalist. At best would result in a fine. .......... the 'pushback' is not aimed so much at the leaker, it is aimed at the media (the reporter). The 'ask' is for the reported to reveal his source, else risk prosecution - the leaker, the reporter, the media (specific). Suppression, 101. Quote
paxamericana Posted April 7 Author Report Posted April 7 1 hour ago, John Stone said: Suppression, 101. Is it suppression though in this context? That’s a safety risk for the downed airman. A perfectly reasonable expectation of secrecy. What would blasting the news of a down airman do in public interest especially when he is in hiding! Quote
WestCanMan Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 This isn't an example of run-of-the-mill Democrat treason, it's full-fledged aiding the enemy in a war treason, and the 1st amendment doesn't provide protection from that. Not only did their treason greatly endanger the life of the missing airmen, and create a possible hostage/torture situation, it made the rescue mission more dangerous for everyone involved because it kept the heat on. 1 hour ago, John Stone said: Suppression, 101. If you think that the 1st amendment gives reporters the right to give the enemy valuable information during a war then you're taking over robo's spot here. FYI, just like you can't say "bomb" in an airport, you can't give America's enemies the information that they want during a war. John Stone's DOJ: "The plans for the nuclear warheads and ICBM's were given to Iran by a reporter, so it's ok. No one will be charged criminally." Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
gatomontes99 Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 2 hours ago, John Stone said: .......... the 'pushback' is not aimed so much at the leaker, it is aimed at the media (the reporter). The 'ask' is for the reported to reveal his source, else risk prosecution - the leaker, the reporter, the media (specific). Suppression, 101. No, that is well established law. https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt1-9-2/ALDE_00000764/ Branzburg v Hayes Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
John Stone Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: This isn't an example of run-of-the-mill Democrat treason, it's full-fledged aiding the enemy in a war treason, and the 1st amendment doesn't provide protection from that. Not only did their treason greatly endanger the life of the missing airmen, and create a possible hostage/torture situation, it made the rescue mission more dangerous for everyone involved because it kept the heat on. If you think that the 1st amendment gives reporters the right to give the enemy valuable information during a war then you're taking over robo's spot here. FYI, just like you can't say "bomb" in an airport, you can't give America's enemies the information that they want during a war. John Stone's DOJ: "The plans for the nuclear warheads and ICBM's were given to Iran by a reporter, so it's ok. No one will be charged criminally." The accused 'leaker' in the F-15 shootdown in Iran was an Israeli journalist. He was the first to report on the crash and it was he that Donald Trump threatened with jail time if he did not disclose his sources. The government has not prosecuted journalists for publishing leaked information, and there are constitutional protections that may shield them from such charges. The threat was a 'brush back' from the Government - the international nature of the journalists complicates things to an even greater degree. The threat is the intent, the intimidation tho. Edited April 7 by John Stone Quote
John Stone Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 46 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: No, that is well established law. https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt1-9-2/ALDE_00000764/ Branzburg v Hayes The accused 'leaker' in the F-15 shootdown in Iran was an Israeli journalist. He was the first to report on the crash and it was he that Donald Trump threatened with jail time if he did not disclose his sources. The government has not prosecuted journalists for publishing leaked information, and there are constitutional protections that may shield them from such charges. The threat was a 'brush back' from the Government - the international nature of the journalists complicates things to an even greater degree. The threat is the intent, the intimidation tho. Quote
John Stone Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 58 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: No, that is well established law. https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt1-9-2/ALDE_00000764/ Branzburg v Hayes Gibson v. Florida Legislative Investigation Comm. Quote
WestCanMan Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 23 minutes ago, John Stone said: The accused 'leaker' in the F-15 shootdown in Iran was an Israeli journalist. He was the first to report on the crash and it was he that Donald Trump threatened with jail time if he did not disclose his sources. This isn't about a downed jet. It's about leaking the fact that the US gov't was lying when they said that they already got him. Iranians saw the jet go down: it wasn't a secret. Quote The government has not prosecuted journalists for publishing leaked information, and there are constitutional protections that may shield them from such charges. There are different kinds of leaked information. Leaking "democrat vs republican information" isn't treason. Leaking "US vs IRAN during a war" information is treason. Quote The threat was a 'brush back' from the Government - the international nature of the journalists complicates things to an even greater degree. If you're saying that it was an Israeli journalist that leaked the info about the false rescue announcement, then the Israeli gov't will have to deal with them. Israel's relationship with the US is the key to their survival. The Israelis can't betray the US, and lose that relationship, because they would face certain genocide. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
WestCanMan Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 15 minutes ago, John Stone said: Gibson v. Florida Legislative Investigation Comm. Damn, man, you really are stupid. FYI "betraying your gov't during a war" is just not tolerated at all, and the maximum sentence is the noose/electric chair/guillotine, etc. There is no amendment to the constitution that gives anyone the right to aid America's enemies in a war, period, regardless of their status as a reporter or an elected official. The noose awaits anyone who is found guilty of actual treason during a war. And it's not just the US that looks at it that way. Every group of humans since the beginning of time has always considered a direct action to seriously harm their own group as worthy of a death sentence. You can go back to pre-historic tribes, or even groups of chimpanzees. They may not have had a spoken word for treason, but they all had the exact same reaction to it. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
John Stone Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 (edited) 8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Damn, man, you really are stupid. FYI "betraying your gov't during a war" is just not tolerated at all, and the maximum sentence is the noose/electric chair/guillotine, etc. There is no amendment to the constitution that gives anyone the right to aid America's enemies in a war, period, regardless of their status as a reporter or an elected official. The noose awaits anyone who is found guilty of actual treason during a war. And it's not just the US that looks at it that way. Every group of humans since the beginning of time has always considered a direct action to seriously harm their own group as worthy of a death sentence. You can go back to pre-historic tribes, or even groups of chimpanzees. They may not have had a spoken word for treason, but they all had the exact same reaction to it. ............ with all due respect this case is not Julius and Ethel Rosenberg vs. State? The journalist was a jew? Gibson vs Florida established limits on government subpoenas relating to media sources. Imagine if a sitting Government had carte blanche to subpoena any reporter at any time over any issue? Ya think ur 'Free Press' would survive. Dude, the U.S. is a sewer and increasingly it is being run by the golden rule - those with the gold, rule and want to rule without any oversight or opposition. Job #1 is suppress the media. I'm sure ur aware of the Fed's push to create a National voter role? Edited April 7 by John Stone Quote
John Stone Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 29 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: This isn't about a downed jet. It's about leaking the fact that the US gov't was lying when they said that they already got him. Iranians saw the jet go down: it wasn't a secret. There are different kinds of leaked information. Leaking "democrat vs republican information" isn't treason. Leaking "US vs IRAN during a war" information is treason. If you're saying that it was an Israeli journalist that leaked the info about the false rescue announcement, then the Israeli gov't will have to deal with them. Israel's relationship with the US is the key to their survival. The Israelis can't betray the US, and lose that relationship, because they would face certain genocide. ................... journalists would sell their sole for a scoop. thank god for journalists ..................... free press! 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 8 minutes ago, John Stone said: ............ with all due respect this case is not Julius and Ethel Rosenberg vs. State? The journalist was a jew? Gibson vs Florida established limits on government subpoenas relating to media sources. Imagine if a sitting Government had carte blanche to subpoena any reporter at any time over any issue? Ya think ur 'Free Press' would survive. Dude, the U.S. is a sewer and increasingly it is being run by the golden rule - those with the gold, rule and want to rule without any oversight or opposition. Job #1 is suppress the media. I'm sure ur aware of the Fed's push to create a National voter role? Treason is a whole different kettle of fish. The "Free Press" isn't a license to commit treason, fool. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
WestCanMan Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, John Stone said: thank god for journalists ..................... free press! Now do Canada, where cops walk into the backs of reporters and then try to charge them with assaulting a police officer. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
John Stone Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 Just now, WestCanMan said: Treason is a whole different kettle of fish. The "Free Press" isn't a license to commit treason, fool. oh, my! So let the courts decide? Treason? The guy was a jewish journalist - likely be more akin to espionage? Indicting a Jewish dude, residing in the U.S. with treason ............... don't be such a fool. 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: Now do Canada, where cops walk into the backs of reporters and then try to charge them with assaulting a police officer. ? Quote
WestCanMan Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 7 minutes ago, John Stone said: oh, my! So let the courts decide? Treason? The guy was a jewish journalist - likely be more akin to espionage? Indicting a Jewish dude, residing in the U.S. with treason ............... don't be such a fool. You said "the first amendment applied" - FYI "the 1st" isn't an international law - so I assumed it was an American journalist. . Then you said "Israeli", now just "Jewish". Regardless of where he is from, no country on earth has constitutional protection for treason. Quote ? Now tell me about "the Free Press" in Canada, where cops walk into the backs of reporters and then try to charge them with assaulting a police officer. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
John Stone Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: You said "the first amendment applied" - FYI "the 1st" isn't an international law - so I assumed it was an American journalist. . Then you said "Israeli", now just "Jewish". Regardless of where he is from, no country on earth has constitutional protection for treason. Now tell me about "the Free Press" in Canada, where cops walk into the backs of reporters and then try to charge them with assaulting a police officer. not even a good deflection ............. try harder. Quote
WestCanMan Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 14 minutes ago, John Stone said: not even a good deflection ............. try harder. Try to be less stupid lol. Nothing here is difficult. FYI getting a job at a news outlet is NOT A LICENSE TO COMMIT TREASON, dummy. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
WestCanMan Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 John Stone: "Hey mom, I just got a job at NBC. That means that I can sell state secrets to any country on earth now and I can't be prosecuted!!!" Mama Stone: "I give up." Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
robosmith Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: This isn't an example of run-of-the-mill Democrat treason, it's full-fledged aiding the enemy in a war treason, and the 1st amendment doesn't provide protection from that. Not only did their treason greatly endanger the life of the missing airmen, and create a possible hostage/torture situation, it made the rescue mission more dangerous for everyone involved because it kept the heat on. If you think that the 1st amendment gives reporters the right to give the enemy valuable information during a war then you're taking over robo's spot here. FYI, just like you can't say "bomb" in an airport, you can't give America's enemies the information that they want during a war. John Stone's DOJ: "The plans for the nuclear warheads and ICBM's were given to Iran by a reporter, so it's ok. No one will be charged criminally." It's NOT war, because no WAR was DECLARED. Duh 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: It's NOT war, because no WAR was DECLARED. Duh It's like you're competing with him 🤣 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
WestCanMan Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 John: think for a second, if the 1st amendment protected reporters' right to commit treason... That would mean that about 2 million people in the US could sell whatever info they wanted to whomever they wanted with no concern whatsoever about any legal/criminal ramifications. Are you sure that you don't wanna change your answer? 🤣 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
robosmith Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 20 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Try to be less stupid lol. Nothing here is difficult. FYI getting a job at a news outlet is NOT A LICENSE TO COMMIT TREASON, dummy. YOU and gnat girl have NO AUTHORITY to determine "treason." Duh 1 Quote
robosmith Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: It's like you're competing with him 🤣 It's exactly that you have NO EVIDENCE for your WILD RANDOM CLAIMS. Quote
WestCanMan Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 You're losing, @John Stone. While you're sitting on your hands, robo is stealing your id10tic talking points and making them his own. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
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