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Posted
1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Another excellent rebuttal. You guys are a real brain trust. 

You are a coward. You sit here pretending you have proven something while you hide from those who show you are wrong. 

 

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Liquid breakfast down at the bar today? Or did you just realize you can't refute those facts and tap out?

I already did. Didn't you read the links? Probably not...meh...

Its some insurmountable task to deny what everyone watched and experienced. But you go girl...

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Posted
44 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I already did. Didn't you read the links? Probably not...meh...

Its some insurmountable task to deny what everyone watched and experienced. But you go girl...

I have repeatedly pointed out the BS he is spewing, but he is hiding from me like a coward. These leftists like him try to talk shit on here like they are big and bad when they are not. 

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, User said:

I have repeatedly pointed out the BS he is spewing, but he is hiding from me like a coward. These leftists like him try to talk shit on here like they are big and bad when they are not. 

Big and bad? Doubtful.

What I think they are, is an example of the lack of male hormones men have been experiencing. Our shit diets and stupid ideas coincide. In short...Libbies are weak.

They're also loud and rather embarrassing...frankly.

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Posted
3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

The fook it ain't. 

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If that kid was Biden  he would say that he was not holding a hose and spraying water. We can say, definitively, that he is. The words do not negate the actions.

The Biden handlers instructed CBP to release all illegal aliens into the US if they claimed asylum. They did this in violation of federal law, BTW. They set court dates and did nothing of consequence when those individuals missed their date or were found to have no valid asylum claim. In addition  they issued SSN's, driver's licenses, welfare benefits and even cell phones. Even when a deportation order was issued, none of those things were rescinded and no one came to deport them. 

So they did not call it an open  border? Don't care what they called it. It looked like shit. It smelled like shit. So it was shit. 

This rant is a good example of how a few real issues get mashed together with a bunch of exaggerations. Like a bullshit snowball rolling downhill.

First, the idea that the Biden administration told border agents to let “anyone claiming asylum” into the country isn’t how U.S. law works. People who reach the border have had the legal right to request asylum for decades, under laws passed by Congress (not Biden). The government has to process those claims. You can read the basics of how asylum works from the U.S. government here:
https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-and-asylum/asylum

Because detention space is limited and immigration courts are massively backlogged, many migrants are released with a Notice to Appear in court. That practice (the so-called “catch and release”) — existed under multiple administrations, including Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden.
Reuters explanation: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/what-is-catch-and-release-us-immigration-policy-2023-09-21/

If someone misses their immigration hearing, judges can issue a deportation order “in absentia.” That’s literally built into the law. The problem is the immigration court backlog, which is now in the millions of cases.
U.S. Department of Justice immigration court statistics:
https://www.justice.gov/eoir/workload-and-adjudication-statistics

The claim that the federal government handed out Social Security numbers and welfare to “illegal aliens” is also misleading. Asylum applicants can apply for a work permit after a waiting period, and if approved they can receive an SSN for tax and employment purposes. That rule has existed for decades.
USCIS info: https://www.uscis.gov/i-765

Driver’s licenses aren’t even controlled by the federal government — those are issued by states. Some states allow undocumented residents or asylum applicants to get them, some don’t.

The “free cell phones” claim mostly comes from confusion about case-management or monitoring programs used by immigration authorities or nonprofits. They’re not handing out iPhones to everyone crossing the border.
Associated Press fact check:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-immigrant-phone-internet-government-521577996794

Finally, deportations absolutely still happened. ICE continued removals during the Biden years, though priorities and totals changed.
ICE enforcement statistics:
https://www.ice.gov/statistics

So yes, the immigration system is messy. The backlog is huge, and the policy debates are real (too bad Trump wanted a campaign issue an killed the Republican-led legislation to change the law).

But the version that says “they just told everyone to come in, gave them benefits, and never deported anyone” isn’t a description of policy. It’s a meme--a bad meme. And, as I said, wildly disconnected from reality. The fact is that Biden was actually slightly more restrictive than Trump. The difference is the volume of encounters.

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You claimed that, but you failed to acknowledge that the increased production was in spite of the admin's revocation of leases. You also failed to acknowledge that some of that added output was made possible by the previous administration's policies. That is a massive lie of omission. Biden does not get credit because private land drilling increased more than he could stop Gulf of America drilling and other leased areas. 

1. Even if you were right (and you're not) it would change the FACT of record production. Record production happened. You can argue that Biden tried to prevent it (again, wrong) but that he failed. But it is an undisputable fact that it happened and it's a myth that Biden strangled supply and drove high gas prices. It's basic supply and demand. Record supply did not drive high prices. 

2. Biden did reduce lease acreage, but that's exploratory acreage. Not at all related to short-term supply. If you want to talk about short term supply, you'll want to look at drilling permits. And there, Biden granted MORE permits than trump, both in raw numbers and percentage approved.

Again, Nationalist's BS claim is completely busted. 

 

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No. You used a lwnj pundits opinion as fact. Just stop. It is embarrassing for you. 

 

How farking whatckadoodle crazy do you have to be to describe Trump's former national security advisor as a left wing nutjob?

Facts are facts. Trump/Pompeo signed the deal with the Taliban. They cut out the Afghan government. And they withdrew 90% of the Troops. And they left Biden holding the bag for the final 10%. -- Trump's deal. Trump's withdrawal. Trump is why the Taliban now runs Afghanistan again. 

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You believed all those lies above and defend them as if they are reality. You are living in a fantasy world and desperately clinging to the belief that it exists. Sooner or later you will eventually break for the good or the bad. 

^^That's all reality. You can't contradict a single one of those facts. I bring receipts, you bring bullshit you heard on Twitter and have dogmatically internalized. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Hodad said:

^^That's all reality. You can't contradict a single one of those facts. I bring receipts, you bring bullshit you heard on Twitter and have dogmatically internalized. 

You want to stop hiding like a coward? I will gladly point out the dumb game you are playing. 

 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I already did. Didn't you read the links? Probably not...meh...

Its some insurmountable task to deny what everyone watched and experienced. But you go girl...

No, you didn't. Apparently you also need to ask Google what a rebuttal means. 

I gave you plain facts that destroy your premises. In order to rebut them, you would want to disprove them or at least address them directly in some way. Instead, you simply vomited up some links to adjacent topics. 

For example, if you want to rebut the fact of record oil production under Biden, you'd need more than a list of Biden actions that some guy didn't like. It could be a list of 500 things. Did we still have record oil production? Yeah? Okay, so the point stands and it is economically impossible the record oil production drove up gas prices. The end. 

Posted
5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Hilarious. 

What you correctly claimed, is that your cult-soaked, hive-mind is so fcked up that you believe this clap-trap.

Meh...Libbie cultists...

 

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I already did. Didn't you read the links? Probably not...meh...

Its some insurmountable task to deny what everyone watched and experienced. But you go girl...

You forgot to post your IMAGINARY LINKS. LMAO

Posted
52 minutes ago, Hodad said:

This rant is a good example of how a few real issues get mashed together with a bunch of exaggerations. Like a bullshit snowball rolling downhill.

First, the idea that the Biden administration told border agents to let “anyone claiming asylum” into the country isn’t how U.S. law works. People who reach the border have had the legal right to request asylum for decades, under laws passed by Congress (not Biden). The government has to process those claims. You can read the basics of how asylum works from the U.S. government here:
https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-and-asylum/asylum

Because detention space is limited and immigration courts are massively backlogged, many migrants are released with a Notice to Appear in court. That practice (the so-called “catch and release”) — existed under multiple administrations, including Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden.
Reuters explanation: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/what-is-catch-and-release-us-immigration-policy-2023-09-21/

If someone misses their immigration hearing, judges can issue a deportation order “in absentia.” That’s literally built into the law. The problem is the immigration court backlog, which is now in the millions of cases.
U.S. Department of Justice immigration court statistics:
https://www.justice.gov/eoir/workload-and-adjudication-statistics

The claim that the federal government handed out Social Security numbers and welfare to “illegal aliens” is also misleading. Asylum applicants can apply for a work permit after a waiting period, and if approved they can receive an SSN for tax and employment purposes. That rule has existed for decades.
USCIS info: https://www.uscis.gov/i-765

Driver’s licenses aren’t even controlled by the federal government — those are issued by states. Some states allow undocumented residents or asylum applicants to get them, some don’t.

The “free cell phones” claim mostly comes from confusion about case-management or monitoring programs used by immigration authorities or nonprofits. They’re not handing out iPhones to everyone crossing the border.
Associated Press fact check:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-immigrant-phone-internet-government-521577996794

Finally, deportations absolutely still happened. ICE continued removals during the Biden years, though priorities and totals changed.
ICE enforcement statistics:
https://www.ice.gov/statistics

So yes, the immigration system is messy. The backlog is huge, and the policy debates are real (too bad Trump wanted a campaign issue an killed the Republican-led legislation to change the law).

But the version that says “they just told everyone to come in, gave them benefits, and never deported anyone” isn’t a description of policy. It’s a meme--a bad meme. And, as I said, wildly disconnected from reality. The fact is that Biden was actually slightly more restrictive than Trump. The difference is the volume of encounters.

CATO

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1. Even if you were right (and you're not) it would change the FACT of record production. Record production happened. You can argue that Biden tried to prevent it (again, wrong) but that he failed. But it is an undisputable fact that it happened and it's a myth that Biden strangled supply and drove high gas prices. It's basic supply and demand. Record supply did not drive high prices. 

2. Biden did reduce lease acreage, but that's exploratory acreage. Not at all related to short-term supply. If you want to talk about short term supply, you'll want to look at drilling permits. And there, Biden granted MORE permits than trump, both in raw numbers and percentage approved.

Again, Nationalist's BS claim is completely busted. 

 

How farking whatckadoodle crazy do you have to be to describe Trump's former national security advisor as a left wing nutjob?

Facts are facts. Trump/Pompeo signed the deal with the Taliban. They cut out the Afghan government. And they withdrew 90% of the Troops. And they left Biden holding the bag for the final 10%. -- Trump's deal. Trump's withdrawal. Trump is why the Taliban now runs Afghanistan again. 

^^That's all reality. You can't contradict a single one of those facts. I bring receipts, you bring bullshit you heard on Twitter and have dogmatically internalized. 

Better keep ^this handy because I guarantee you'll need it again. Sometimes it takes a dozen posts to penetrate their cognitive dissonance. 

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Posted
42 minutes ago, Hodad said:

No, you didn't. Apparently you also need to ask Google what a rebuttal means. 

I gave you plain facts that destroy your premises. In order to rebut them, you would want to disprove them or at least address them directly in some way. Instead, you simply vomited up some links to adjacent topics. 

No, you engaged in your usual half-truths, avoiding the actual points and arguments and grabbing some irrelevant fact to hang your hat on, as long as you post a fact and a source, it somehow proves something. 

Stop hiding like a coward, come out, and I will show you. 

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Hodad said:

No, you didn't. Apparently you also need to ask Google what a rebuttal means. 

I gave you plain facts that destroy your premises. In order to rebut them, you would want to disprove them or at least address them directly in some way. Instead, you simply vomited up some links to adjacent topics. 

For example, if you want to rebut the fact of record oil production under Biden, you'd need more than a list of Biden actions that some guy didn't like. It could be a list of 500 things. Did we still have record oil production? Yeah? Okay, so the point stands and it is economically impossible the record oil production drove up gas prices. The end. 

Lol...ok...as I said...you're disqualified for being willfully blind and inept.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...ok...as I said...you're disqualified for being willfully blind and inept.

Frankly, no one cares what you say. You couldn't find a point in a fork factory. I have no idea why you come here. 

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Posted
17 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Frankly, no one cares what you say. You couldn't find a point in a fork factory. I have no idea why you come here. 

Frankly...you're just wrong. You dont like being told you're wrong, so you dismiss the argument. 

You can and will, make all sorts of excuses for why people should not believe their own senses, but its all just smoke and mirrors. 

Im here...for you Pumkin. Whenever you Tweenkies try to obfuscate and confuse, I'll be there to let people know that...

'No. You saw what you saw. This person is just a petty little boy who didn't get spanked enough as a kid.'

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Frankly...you're just wrong. You dont like being told you're wrong, so you dismiss the argument. 

You can and will, make all sorts of excuses for why people should not believe their own senses, but its all just smoke and mirrors. 

Im here...for you Pumkin. Whenever you Tweenkies try to obfuscate and confuse, I'll be there to let people know that...

'No. You saw what you saw. This person is just a petty little boy who didn't get spanked enough as a kid.'

Your senses? It's warm and soft. The sound is muffled. Smells like shit. And if it weren't so dark, the only thing you'd see would be your own colon. 

That's why facts and data are persuasive and your feelings are not. 

Posted (edited)
33 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Your senses? It's warm and soft. The sound is muffled. Smells like shit. And if it weren't so dark, the only thing you'd see would be your own colon. 

That's why facts and data are persuasive and your feelings are not. 

I gave you the facts. The raw, unaltered facts. You reject them because they destroy your warped narrative. 

That would be...your problem. 

A problem you can only try to resolve with angry little comments. Which means, of course, you got nothin' left.

But that's not really surprising, considering your mentality and intellect.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I gave you the facts. The raw, unaltered facts. You reject them because they destroy your warped narrative. 

That would be...your problem. 

A problem you can only try to resolve with angry little comments. Which means, of course, you got nothin' left.

But that's not really surprising, considering your mentality and intellect.

Just remember: Strait of Hormuz about which Trump is now all over the map, you're paying for it with high gas prices. LMAO

Of course I filled my tank last week and won't have to fill it again for a month. Hopefully Trump will "feel in his bones" that  the war he "won in the first hour" is over by then. Just remember that is the lDIOT you're celebrating. LMAO

Posted
6 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Just remember: Strait of Hormuz about which Trump is now all over the map, you're paying for it with high gas prices. LMAO

Of course I filled my tank last week and won't have to fill it again for a month. Hopefully Trump will "feel in his bones" that  the war he "won in the first hour" is over by then. Just remember that is the lDIOT you're celebrating. LMAO

You are the one cheering this on and defending Iran. 

 

 

 

Posted
8 hours ago, robosmith said:

Just remember: Strait of Hormuz about which Trump is now all over the map, you're paying for it with high gas prices. LMAO

Of course I filled my tank last week and won't have to fill it again for a month. Hopefully Trump will "feel in his bones" that  the war he "won in the first hour" is over by then. Just remember that is the lDIOT you're celebrating. LMAO

Indeed. Very much like you were happily paying high gas prices during the Brandon years.

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Posted
6 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Indeed. Very much like you were happily paying high gas prices during the Brandon years.

Gas prices were NOT high here. No one was driving during the pandemic. Low demand, low price = ECON 101 which YOU MISSED dropout.

Of course you don't understand that inflation was high world wide and because of the Biden's stimulus spending, our economy recovered FASTER than all of Europe. We didn't even incur a recession to quell inflation. 

Posted
9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Gas prices were NOT high here. No one was driving during the pandemic. Low demand, low price = ECON 101 which YOU MISSED dropout.

Of course you don't understand that inflation was high world wide and because of the Biden's stimulus spending, our economy recovered FASTER than all of Europe. We didn't even incur a recession to quell inflation. 

Not high in California? They are the highest in the nation because of all the taxes and additional regulations you impose on blends. 

 

 

 

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