LIBERATION OF IRAN (PERSIA) FROM NAZI FASCIST ISLAMIC REPUBLIC HAS STARTED!!

[Goober National]

52 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Attacked have been very targeted on leaders and military and not on civilians. So far the regime is claiming that in over 30 days of bombing campaign by Israel and US about 1500 civilians have been killed which is very unfortunate now considering that the regime of mullahs massacred over 50,000 in less than 30 hours by comparison you see why Iranians inside out are asking for the war to continue till this f*cking Islamic murderous regime is fallen as they prefer death with dignity (in the very unlikely scenario that they die from bombardment) to slow torturous death (raped, tortured, executed, massacred) by the regime which is a certainty.

Question is, are Iranians capable of standing up against the ayatollahs and militia from within? It looks like the IRGC and government forces have complete control. Yet with so many Iranians wanting freedom, must see that this is their chance. If there ever would be a chance, this is it. Iranians must stand up and fight for their future. Not fighting is death, so you are dead either way.

[CdnFox]

39 minutes ago, herbie said:

Looks like liberating the Iranian public has been abandoned and the whole fiasco has become Operation Save Face for Donny Diaper Sniper.

No liberating the people was never actually a stated goal. It seems to be something you kind of made up

Trump did say that the Ayatollah needed to be punished and couldn't get away with slaughtering so many of his people. The guy was blown into bite-sized pieces so that does seem to have been accomplished

[herbie]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

No liberating the people was never actually a stated goal

No it never was stated out loud, just implied that to the fools who were touting that as the reason. You know, who thought bringing back the Shah was 'democracy'.
But the fool Trump sure looks like he's someone looking at the gun while hiding inside his bunker with no way out.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, herbie said:

No it never was stated out loud, just implied that to the fools who were touting that as the reason.

uhhh.....  you're the fool touting it as a reason tho....  not sure you thought that one all the way through  

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You know, who thought bringing back the Shah was 'democracy'.

No, i don't know anyone who thought that.  Who was that?
 

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But the fool Trump sure looks like he's someone looking at the gun while hiding inside his bunker with no way out.

Uhhhhh....  so trump looks like he's in a bunker to  you?

You always get weirder and weirder as we approach the weekend. 

[John Stone]

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No liberating the people was never actually a stated goal. It seems to be something you kind of made up

Trump did say that the Ayatollah needed to be punished and couldn't get away with slaughtering so many of his people. The guy was blown into bite-sized pieces so that does seem to have been accomplished

.Yeah - Trump was hoping for a civil rebellion - storm'n the Bastille scenario - not a bad strategy if u know there's organized, armed resistance.........Trump has destroyed what trust there might have been with the domestic population of Iran

......... suppose it should be mentioned that the regime is still in  place in  a more virulent form..... Japan 1945 - pre Little Boy. 

Edited April 3 by John Stone

[herbie]

Oh FFS how do you enable the people to rise up by destroying anti ship and offensive missiles and nuclear production sites?
None of those wold be used against the civil population. You giotta take out armour and foot soldiers like in Iraq.

Merely dropping bombs on them didn't work there, or in Afghanistan, or Vietnam, or Korea, or even Japan or Germany.

[CdnFox]

On 4/3/2026 at 4:59 AM, John Stone said:

.Yeah - Trump was hoping for a civil rebellion - storm'n the Bastille scenario - not a bad strategy if u know there's organized, armed resistance.........

I don't know how much that actually factored into his strategy. I think that was a popular bit of propaganda floating around that the population was desperate for this and to be honest they probably are desperate for the original shot to be removed. Which has actually happened.

But I don't know that anyone in the administration actually believed that the public would rise up against the heavily armed military and overthrow them. And even if trump was dumb enough to believe that I doubt the Israelis were.

Usually in these kinds of scenarios there have been discussions behind the scenes for the group that they hope will seize power within the existing structure. I mean if this people simply overthrow the government and take power, then there's nobody to actually run anything. This isn't medieval France, you need a strong bureaucracy to make your country run.

So generally you want a group within the government who's willing to step in and take over and work with you and I'm not sure that that happened the way that they wanted it to. On the other hand I'm not 100% sure that it didn't entirely

We will have to wait and see. I think it's fair to say that trump was expecting this to be over more quickly than it's going to be so something obviously went a little sideways but whether or not is recoverable we'll see. War rarely goes as well as everyone plans

12 hours ago, herbie said:

Oh FFS how do you enable the people to rise up by destroying anti ship and offensive missiles and nuclear production sites?

Sure why not

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None of those wold be used against the civil population.

Well I'm pretty sure they did blow up the Ayatollah as well

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You giotta take out armour and foot soldiers like in Iraq.

Apparently they did a fair bit of that as well, but at the end of the day if you really want to take the country you need boots on the ground they don't seem to be intending to do that. So they must have had another resolution in mind

[John Johnston]

Now that Trumps "Excursion" has turned into a disaster he will turn his attention to trying to rig the Mid Term Elections. Nothing Trump and his Administration has done has helped America in any way, shape or form. too late, people now are starting to getting it. 

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

Now that Trumps "Excursion" has turned into a disaster he will turn his attention to trying to rig the Mid Term Elections. Nothing Trump and his Administration has done has helped America in any way, shape or form. too late, people now are starting to getting it. 

I don't think it's a disaster just yet, although it certainly turning out to be negative for him

It is attention has been on winning the midterms one way or another for a bit now  But it will be interesting to see the reaction of some of the candidates who are running. They may feel that trump's brand is no longer a boost, they may not want him campaigning with them and we may see more of them running under the republican banner but not the trump banner. The problem for trump is that economic issues tend to show up 6 months to a year after whatever causes them happens, and about 6 months from now the impact of this war is going to really start to hit home if he hasn't got a positive resolution pretty quick. That will be just in time for the midterms which is not what he wants

13 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

Nothing Trump and his Administration has done has helped America in any way, shape or form. too late, people now are starting to getting it. 

That's more of an opinion than fact. Polling suggests an awful lot of people do like his immigration policy and deportation policy whether you like it or not personally

Where he is vulnerable is that he promised to get inflation under control and that hasn't exactly happened yet and people are a little pissed. The problem for the democrats is they're not really a credible solution to that so it will be hard for them to draw people away just based on that unless inflation gets worse

[CITIZEN_2015]

On 4/2/2026 at 10:13 PM, Goober National said:

Question is, are Iranians capable of standing up against the ayatollahs and militia from within? It looks like the IRGC and government forces have complete control. Yet with so many Iranians wanting freedom, must see that this is their chance. If there ever would be a chance, this is it. Iranians must stand up and fight for their future. Not fighting is death, so you are dead either way.

Easier said than done. Likely you are not totally familiar with the oppressive apparatus of this regime and the way they create terror among the population.

Yes you are right. Death while fighting for their rights and freedom is much better than slow death under this Islamic regime. And over 50,000 of unarmed peaceful demonstrators were shot to death by the security forces of this murderous regime. But they were the lucky ones. The regime knows that death by itself cannot scare people from rising up. So they arrested another 50,000 innocent people many young women among them and they have been subjected to torture and gang rape by security forces, some executed. So they kill these people with extreme pain and humiliation and purposely let the news get out by releasing some after a month or two so that to create terror within population. This is much worse than death for many Iranians. They may be ready to die in fight but not be humiliated and raped and tortured. The regime is armed to teeth. The nation is unarmed. They have also brought in subhuman islamists from other countries to kill Iranians. 

The only way to secure the world from Islamist terror is a ground invasion of Iran to remove this cancerous organ and free the world from these bastards.