gatomontes99 Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 Quote AP MEXICO CITY (AP) — The Mexican army killed the country’s most powerful cartel leader and one of the United States’ most wanted fugitives on Sunday, notching a major victory while cartel members responded with a wave violence across the country. The killing of Jalisco New Generation Cartel leader Nemesio Oseguera Cervantes during an attempt to capture him in Jalisco state was the highest-profile blow against cartels since the recapture of former Sinaloa cartel boss Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán a decade ago. You can thank Trump for this. He forced the Mexican President to take on the cartels through tariffs and threats of doing it ourselves. Now another cartel leader is dead. It won't stop the cartel, but it is a start. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
John Johnston Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 6 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: You can thank Trump for this. He forced the Mexican President to take on the cartels through tariffs and threats of doing it ourselves. Now another cartel leader is dead. It won't stop the cartel, but it is a start. If America was not such a bunch of junkies in the first place none of this would matter. Start with going for a meeting. everything is always somebody else fault. Quote
John Stone Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 43 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: You can thank Trump for this. He forced the Mexican President to take on the cartels through tariffs and threats of doing it ourselves. Now another cartel leader is dead. It won't stop the cartel, but it is a start. Indeed. There is no other explanation. ........no ballz maneuver. Quote
User Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 3 hours ago, John Johnston said: If America was not such a bunch of junkies in the first place none of this would matter. Start with going for a meeting. everything is always somebody else fault. Being a junkie is not something that a rational person continues to choose to engage in... they are addicted. A large chunk of that battle is, in fact, stopping the supply, not just being mad at the people who are hopelessly addicted. Quote
herbie Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 4 hours ago, John Johnston said: If America was not such a bunch of junkies Or legitimize some drugs and treat the junkies as a healthissue instead, it could turn those cartels in taxpaying Mexican industries that the Mexican govt would defnd instead of private armies. But it's America, even if it did that the junkies would have to steal even more to pay for their legal drugs. 1 Quote
User Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, herbie said: Or legitimize some drugs and treat the junkies as a healthissue instead, it could turn those cartels in taxpaying Mexican industries that the Mexican govt would defnd instead of private armies. But it's America, even if it did that the junkies would have to steal even more to pay for their legal drugs. The kind of drugs people are hopelessly addicted to is not something that you legitimize. You sit here pretending that Canada doesn't have a similar problem. Of course you do, because you don't care about your own people as much as you do hating America. Edited February 23 by User Quote
John Johnston Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 1 hour ago, herbie said: Or legitimize some drugs and treat the junkies as a healthissue instead, it could turn those cartels in taxpaying Mexican industries that the Mexican govt would defnd instead of private armies. But it's America, even if it did that the junkies would have to steal even more to pay for their legal drugs. True enough. Quote
John Johnston Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 7 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: You can thank Trump for this. He forced the Mexican President to take on the cartels through tariffs and threats of doing it ourselves. Now another cartel leader is dead. It won't stop the cartel, but it is a start. Donald Trump has pardoned several criminal involved in the drug trade his second presidential term, including Michael R. "Harry-O" Harris, Ross William Ulbricht, Larry Hoover, and former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez America is full of crap. Quote
User Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 45 minutes ago, John Johnston said: True enough. OK, which drugs? 30 minutes ago, John Johnston said: Donald Trump has pardoned several criminal involved in the drug trade his second presidential term, including Michael R. "Harry-O" Harris, Ross William Ulbricht, Larry Hoover, and former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez America is full of crap. So... your complaint is that Trump should have pardoned more and completely ignore the cartels? Quote
John Johnston Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 32 minutes ago, User said: OK, which drugs? So... your complaint is that Trump should have pardoned more and completely ignore the cartels? Nothing Whackaddodle Trump says has any meaning thats all. You want to deal with the drug issue? Deal with supply and demand. Spend more time dealing with why there is a massive drug problem in the first place. Take out one cartel, another will be inserted instantly. Shrug, this is not complicated. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 1 hour ago, User said: You sit here pretending that Canada doesn't have a similar problem. Of course you do, because you don't care about your own people as much as you do hating America. We do, and think most civilized countries have the same issue. The difference here in Canada is that we don't blame everyone else for those drug problems like Trump does. Like Scheinbaum said, clean up your own house before you want to try cleaning up others. You're missing it... The majority of Canadian's don't hate America....they hate Trump. Big difference but unfortunately he's around another 3 years unless he goes one cheeseburger too many in his out of shape and sedintary body. That would suck huh... Quote
User Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 56 minutes ago, John Johnston said: Nothing Whackaddodle Trump says has any meaning thats all. You want to deal with the drug issue? Deal with supply and demand. Spend more time dealing with why there is a massive drug problem in the first place. Take out one cartel, another will be inserted instantly. Shrug, this is not complicated. Nothing? You are so partisan you have no interest in honest discussion. OK, fine, do you support involuntary confinement to mental institutes and drug rehab facilities? I do. It is the leftists who oppose this and support the policies that keep the people addictied to drugs out on the streets. It is amazing how you leftists are all about making things like guns illegal... but when it comes to drugs, all of a sudden you think it is hopeless to even try to do that. Quote
User Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: We do, and think most civilized countries have the same issue. The difference here in Canada is that we don't blame everyone else for those drug problems like Trump does. Like Scheinbaum said, clean up your own house before you want to try cleaning up others. You're missing it... The majority of Canadian's don't hate America....they hate Trump. Big difference but unfortunately he's around another 3 years unless he goes one cheeseburger too many in his out of shape and sedintary body. That would suck huh... So... you think the Cartels have no blame now? If I get your kid hooked on meth, sneak it to him, keep spoon feeding it to him while he is living in a box on the streets, pimp him out for sex... you just gonna blame your kid and pat me on the back for being a good capitalist? Quote
Soldier40 Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 It's just that something terrible is happening in Mexico. Quote
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